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		By: Insoles For High Arch		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/06/19/literary-leftists-will-durant/#comment-880562</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 22:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please let me know if you&#039;re looking &lt;a href=&quot;https://adrianestravinski.wordpress.com/2015/01/06/symptoms-of-shoe-inserts&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Insoles For High Arch&lt;/a&gt; 
a article author for your site. You have some really great articles and I feel I would be a 
good asset. If you ever want to take some of the load off, I&#039;d absolutely love to write some articles for 
your blog in exchange for a link back to mine. Please shoot me an e-mail if interested.
Kudos!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let me know if you&#8217;re looking <a href="https://adrianestravinski.wordpress.com/2015/01/06/symptoms-of-shoe-inserts" rel="nofollow">Insoles For High Arch</a><br />
a article author for your site. You have some really great articles and I feel I would be a<br />
good asset. If you ever want to take some of the load off, I&#8217;d absolutely love to write some articles for<br />
your blog in exchange for a link back to mine. Please shoot me an e-mail if interested.<br />
Kudos!</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/06/19/literary-leftists-will-durant/#comment-372702</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I declined to adopt the view that what was imperatively necessary for the Nation could not be done by the President unless he could find some specific authorization to do it. My belief was that it was not only his right but his duty to do anything that the needs of the Nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution or by the laws. Under this interpretation of executive power I did and caused to be done many things not previously done by the President and the heads of the departments. I did not usurp power, but I did greatly broaden the use of executive power. In other words, I acted for the public welfare, I acted for the common well-being of all our people, whenever and in whatever manner was necessary, unless prevented by direct constitutional or legislative prohibition.

from a literary leftists biography...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I declined to adopt the view that what was imperatively necessary for the Nation could not be done by the President unless he could find some specific authorization to do it. My belief was that it was not only his right but his duty to do anything that the needs of the Nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution or by the laws. Under this interpretation of executive power I did and caused to be done many things not previously done by the President and the heads of the departments. I did not usurp power, but I did greatly broaden the use of executive power. In other words, I acted for the public welfare, I acted for the common well-being of all our people, whenever and in whatever manner was necessary, unless prevented by direct constitutional or legislative prohibition.</p>
<p>from a literary leftists biography&#8230;</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Occam&#039;s Beard:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;It is not clear that she was murdered because she was going to defect; that is pure speculation at this juncture. ..Stalin had lots of committed hard-core loyal Communists killed for less, so the mere fact that she was murdered, without more, does not necessarily imply that she was about to repudiate Communism&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I see your point.  There does not appear to be  enough evidence to judge  if she was a Rohm/Bukharin/Zinoviev/loyal &quot;victim&quot;  or if she was going to go the Chambers/defection route.

There were many who got their knickers in a twist because in the late 1930s Stalin had killed many members of the Communist hierarchy. How could he kill loyal Communists?  Many of these people blithly ignored the millions- shall we say tens of millions - of non-Communist Russians that Lenin and Stalin had previously killed.

I read Martin Amis&#039;s book &lt;b&gt;Koba the Dread&lt;/b&gt; about 6 months before Neo posted on it. While numerous volumes have already been written on Koba, Amis&#039;s book brings up some interesting points.

Amis reported that Pipes suggested  that during the  ~1918-1922 Civil War, the secret police had killed more people than had been killed in battle.  Not to mention the War Communism-caused famines, partially alleviated by Herbert-Hoover led aid from the West.

Amis speculated that a reason for Koba&#039;s killing off most the Communist hierarchy was the results of a &lt;b&gt;secret ballot&lt;/b&gt; on the composition of the Central Committee at the Seventeenth  Party Congress Party Congress in 1934- a.k.a. Congress of Victors, Congress of Vultures, Congress of Vampires. [The latter two were Amis&#039;s suggestions.]

 A not insignificant proportion of the ~ 1200 ballots- variously reported as between 120 and 300[by Kruschchev]- had crossed out Stalin&#039;s name. Amis suggests that Stalin killed off most of the Communist hierarchy to kill off potential &quot;traitors&quot; to Stalin and to strike fear into the minds of surviving potential &quot;traitors.&quot;

 A further &quot;benefit&quot; to Stalin was that by killing off the hierarchy he killed off institutional memory, resulting in fewer people to oppose his rewriting of  Party history. For example- while Stalin was an insignificant player in the Civil War, Stalin rewrote history to  show his being a significant participant in the Civil War.  With fewer people alive to contradict this, the lie had a better chance of being accepted.


While I didn&#039;t have the direct exposure to American Communists that Neo did in her childhood- she told of an uncle- I found out later that someone I knew slightly from my childhood was a Red diaper baby. I didn&#039;t know it when I was growing up, but when this acquaintance became a published author, the truth came out that many of his relativeS of his were Commies- one of whom was called to testify. All of this was hidden when I was a child. But as I said, I only knew him slightly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam&#8217;s Beard:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>It is not clear that she was murdered because she was going to defect; that is pure speculation at this juncture. ..Stalin had lots of committed hard-core loyal Communists killed for less, so the mere fact that she was murdered, without more, does not necessarily imply that she was about to repudiate Communism</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I see your point.  There does not appear to be  enough evidence to judge  if she was a Rohm/Bukharin/Zinoviev/loyal &#8220;victim&#8221;  or if she was going to go the Chambers/defection route.</p>
<p>There were many who got their knickers in a twist because in the late 1930s Stalin had killed many members of the Communist hierarchy. How could he kill loyal Communists?  Many of these people blithly ignored the millions- shall we say tens of millions &#8211; of non-Communist Russians that Lenin and Stalin had previously killed.</p>
<p>I read Martin Amis&#8217;s book <b>Koba the Dread</b> about 6 months before Neo posted on it. While numerous volumes have already been written on Koba, Amis&#8217;s book brings up some interesting points.</p>
<p>Amis reported that Pipes suggested  that during the  ~1918-1922 Civil War, the secret police had killed more people than had been killed in battle.  Not to mention the War Communism-caused famines, partially alleviated by Herbert-Hoover led aid from the West.</p>
<p>Amis speculated that a reason for Koba&#8217;s killing off most the Communist hierarchy was the results of a <b>secret ballot</b> on the composition of the Central Committee at the Seventeenth  Party Congress Party Congress in 1934- a.k.a. Congress of Victors, Congress of Vultures, Congress of Vampires. [The latter two were Amis&#8217;s suggestions.]</p>
<p> A not insignificant proportion of the ~ 1200 ballots- variously reported as between 120 and 300[by Kruschchev]- had crossed out Stalin&#8217;s name. Amis suggests that Stalin killed off most of the Communist hierarchy to kill off potential &#8220;traitors&#8221; to Stalin and to strike fear into the minds of surviving potential &#8220;traitors.&#8221;</p>
<p> A further &#8220;benefit&#8221; to Stalin was that by killing off the hierarchy he killed off institutional memory, resulting in fewer people to oppose his rewriting of  Party history. For example- while Stalin was an insignificant player in the Civil War, Stalin rewrote history to  show his being a significant participant in the Civil War.  With fewer people alive to contradict this, the lie had a better chance of being accepted.</p>
<p>While I didn&#8217;t have the direct exposure to American Communists that Neo did in her childhood- she told of an uncle- I found out later that someone I knew slightly from my childhood was a Red diaper baby. I didn&#8217;t know it when I was growing up, but when this acquaintance became a published author, the truth came out that many of his relativeS of his were Commies- one of whom was called to testify. All of this was hidden when I was a child. But as I said, I only knew him slightly.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Prior to their hard won freedom, this was not possible.  After we lose what we have, it nothing will be possible again. 

I guess now we are putting the parts together, i must do my proper duty. and put out the welcome mats to those who are seeing the puzzle come together before them. 

that they are a product of history whether they know it or not... and the history tells us where we are going and whence we came... 
 
&lt;b&gt;Welcome To The Club&lt;/b&gt; everyone!!!

Ella - Welcome To The Club
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voBOOMSATnI
Ella is a latvian pop-star &#038; socialite.

now you know
&lt;b&gt;The war is not over...&lt;/b&gt;

Valters &#038; KaÅ¾a - The war is not over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l6lNjSA40o

The war is not over, everyone knows it
It&#039;s just a reason to make us believe
&lt;i&gt;That someone is loser, someone is winner&lt;/i&gt;
To make us believe that&#039;s the way it should be
&lt;b&gt;But I don&#039;t wanna believe

This fairy tail has gone to far... &lt;/b&gt;

Welcome to the game.. 
The purpose of your life is now... 
Batteries are NOT included... 

:)

[i needed something to lighten things up... ]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prior to their hard won freedom, this was not possible.  After we lose what we have, it nothing will be possible again. </p>
<p>I guess now we are putting the parts together, i must do my proper duty. and put out the welcome mats to those who are seeing the puzzle come together before them. </p>
<p>that they are a product of history whether they know it or not&#8230; and the history tells us where we are going and whence we came&#8230; </p>
<p><b>Welcome To The Club</b> everyone!!!</p>
<p>Ella &#8211; Welcome To The Club<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voBOOMSATnI" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voBOOMSATnI</a><br />
Ella is a latvian pop-star &amp; socialite.</p>
<p>now you know<br />
<b>The war is not over&#8230;</b></p>
<p>Valters &amp; KaÅ¾a &#8211; The war is not over<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l6lNjSA40o" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l6lNjSA40o</a></p>
<p>The war is not over, everyone knows it<br />
It&#8217;s just a reason to make us believe<br />
<i>That someone is loser, someone is winner</i><br />
To make us believe that&#8217;s the way it should be<br />
<b>But I don&#8217;t wanna believe</p>
<p>This fairy tail has gone to far&#8230; </b></p>
<p>Welcome to the game..<br />
The purpose of your life is now&#8230;<br />
Batteries are NOT included&#8230; </p>
<p>🙂</p>
<p>[i needed something to lighten things up&#8230; ]</p>
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		By: ErisGuy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suppose Bullitt can&#039;t be blamed. for deluding himself for years on the nature of socialism--oh, wait, yes, he can. He had to wait until Stalin until he realized socialism was evil?!? I would have thought a cursory examination of the writings of Marx and Lenin would have exposed socialism&#039;s nature.

Bullitt is fortunate he never acted (except for praise, influence peddling &#038; etc.) on his willful blindness to the nature of his beliefs. He is one more reason why socialism afflicts the world today. He wished for it, he wanted it, he willed it, he aided it, he abetted it, and when it arrived, went &quot;oops.&quot; Not good enough.*

I have this problem with Sakharov. I&#039;m pleased he became an opponent of Communism, but his participation in the Soviet bomb project--supplying nuclear weapons to Stalin--outweighs any good he might have done.

The evils of Bullitt, Poymz, and Sakharov live on. Their good, if any, not so much.

*If he&#039;d carried out a secret campaign of assassination against communist sympathizers and spies (he must have known some) in the State Department, then I might offer a crumb of forgiveness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose Bullitt can&#8217;t be blamed. for deluding himself for years on the nature of socialism&#8211;oh, wait, yes, he can. He had to wait until Stalin until he realized socialism was evil?!? I would have thought a cursory examination of the writings of Marx and Lenin would have exposed socialism&#8217;s nature.</p>
<p>Bullitt is fortunate he never acted (except for praise, influence peddling &amp; etc.) on his willful blindness to the nature of his beliefs. He is one more reason why socialism afflicts the world today. He wished for it, he wanted it, he willed it, he aided it, he abetted it, and when it arrived, went &#8220;oops.&#8221; Not good enough.*</p>
<p>I have this problem with Sakharov. I&#8217;m pleased he became an opponent of Communism, but his participation in the Soviet bomb project&#8211;supplying nuclear weapons to Stalin&#8211;outweighs any good he might have done.</p>
<p>The evils of Bullitt, Poymz, and Sakharov live on. Their good, if any, not so much.</p>
<p>*If he&#8217;d carried out a secret campaign of assassination against communist sympathizers and spies (he must have known some) in the State Department, then I might offer a crumb of forgiveness.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 06:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone, maybe Artful, should dig out the Writer&#039;s Guild magazine &quot;Written By&quot;&#039;s tribute to the Hollywood Ten from a few years ago.  The astounding thing was that the &quot;heroes&quot; admitted they were Communists, some of them underground Party members, many of whom had joined during the &#039;50s, long after Stalin&#039;s crimes were well-known.

IIRC, and I may be wrong, not one of them said, &quot;Boy did we make a mistake!&quot;  Nor was there one letter to the Guild suggesting that maybe they had been a little too harsh to Elia Kazan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone, maybe Artful, should dig out the Writer&#8217;s Guild magazine &#8220;Written By&#8221;&#8216;s tribute to the Hollywood Ten from a few years ago.  The astounding thing was that the &#8220;heroes&#8221; admitted they were Communists, some of them underground Party members, many of whom had joined during the &#8217;50s, long after Stalin&#8217;s crimes were well-known.</p>
<p>IIRC, and I may be wrong, not one of them said, &#8220;Boy did we make a mistake!&#8221;  Nor was there one letter to the Guild suggesting that maybe they had been a little too harsh to Elia Kazan.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our system...  A system which embraces optimal liberty as its premise requires individuals capable of self-moderating behavior.  This is increasingly not true as individuals dream of instant gratification; whether it is physical relationships without accountability, stature without or false merit, or material compensation through redistributive and retributive change is immaterial.  All of these dreams are corruptive.  In effect, we are electing to exchange liberty for submission with benefits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our system&#8230;  A system which embraces optimal liberty as its premise requires individuals capable of self-moderating behavior.  This is increasingly not true as individuals dream of instant gratification; whether it is physical relationships without accountability, stature without or false merit, or material compensation through redistributive and retributive change is immaterial.  All of these dreams are corruptive.  In effect, we are electing to exchange liberty for submission with benefits.</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Emma Goldman had a similar change of heart, after visiting her beloved-from-afar Soviet Union in 1923 and coming to hate the Bolshies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Disillusionment_in_Russia

Note that this was &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; Stalin: Lenin wasn&#039;t exactly a walk on the beach, either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emma Goldman had a similar change of heart, after visiting her beloved-from-afar Soviet Union in 1923 and coming to hate the Bolshies:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Disillusionment_in_Russia" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Disillusionment_in_Russia</a></p>
<p>Note that this was <i>before</i> Stalin: Lenin wasn&#8217;t exactly a walk on the beach, either.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[He recognized individual dignity.  That coercing an equal outcome is antithetical to preserve that dignity.  He even recognized principles of evolution, a subset of the natural (or God&#039;s) order.  That a society, and humanity, really, cannot embrace (i.e. normalize) behaviors which engender evolutionary dysfunction and hope to remain viable.

As for the &quot;dream&quot; of socialism or another equalizing system, let&#039;s recall that dreams of instant gratification (i.e. material, physical, ego) are a principle cause of progressive corruption of individuals, society, and humanity.  The resources of this world, whether natural or human (i.e. individual), are finitely accessible and strictly finite, respectively.

Not everyone can enjoy a beachfront property in Hawaii.

The ideal system... The ideal compromise, may well be American conservatism, which is a philosophy effectively described as classical liberalism tempered by Christian principles.

We do not need and cannot afford a race to the bottom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He recognized individual dignity.  That coercing an equal outcome is antithetical to preserve that dignity.  He even recognized principles of evolution, a subset of the natural (or God&#8217;s) order.  That a society, and humanity, really, cannot embrace (i.e. normalize) behaviors which engender evolutionary dysfunction and hope to remain viable.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;dream&#8221; of socialism or another equalizing system, let&#8217;s recall that dreams of instant gratification (i.e. material, physical, ego) are a principle cause of progressive corruption of individuals, society, and humanity.  The resources of this world, whether natural or human (i.e. individual), are finitely accessible and strictly finite, respectively.</p>
<p>Not everyone can enjoy a beachfront property in Hawaii.</p>
<p>The ideal system&#8230; The ideal compromise, may well be American conservatism, which is a philosophy effectively described as classical liberalism tempered by Christian principles.</p>
<p>We do not need and cannot afford a race to the bottom.</p>
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		By: waltj		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 03:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reading between the lines of Durant&#039;s restrained mid-20th Century socially-acceptable prose, it sounds like Duranty&#039;s main reason for writing fawing lies about the Soviets was that it got him a fair amount of nookie.  Such are the morals of the famous &quot;journalist&quot;, who helped sell an unmitigated horror to an all too trusting world.  

Durant, on the other hand, seemed to have kept his eyes and his mind open regarding communism, and threw the b.s. flag when its lies and contradictions became apparent.  No, he didn&#039;t burn his bridges to the Left, but he did acknowledge its massive problems.  That counts for something in my book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading between the lines of Durant&#8217;s restrained mid-20th Century socially-acceptable prose, it sounds like Duranty&#8217;s main reason for writing fawing lies about the Soviets was that it got him a fair amount of nookie.  Such are the morals of the famous &#8220;journalist&#8221;, who helped sell an unmitigated horror to an all too trusting world.  </p>
<p>Durant, on the other hand, seemed to have kept his eyes and his mind open regarding communism, and threw the b.s. flag when its lies and contradictions became apparent.  No, he didn&#8217;t burn his bridges to the Left, but he did acknowledge its massive problems.  That counts for something in my book.</p>
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