2: The actual wording of the policy to extend the two year safe harbor not just to children brought here my their parents, but to illegals who crossed the border on their own initiative or how paid smugglers to get them across. So much for “no fault of their own”.

This will prove a losing proposition for Obama. It will galvanize young white voters who already are uncomfortable with him to vote against his reelection and further alienate blue collar voters.

One more thing. Yes I too would like to see a strong response from Romney. However, that would be the wrong thing for him to do at this point. Obama had two possibly three goals: energize hispanics to turnout and to contribute, possibly motivate the youth vote, and most important to knock Romney off message and distract voters from the mess Obama’s made in the last 42 months. At this point in the campaign Romney handled this exactly right. He has left others to argue the constitutional and legal issues and point out Obama’s over reach, while he continues to hammer away at Obama’s record.

If we are to stop Obama’s abuses we must unseat him in November. That will be accomplished by persuading the middle of the road voter that Romney is better suited to fixing the economic issues that we face. Romney needs to stay focused on that, while the grass roots talk about other issues around the water cooler.

The problem with these types of decrees is that they are easily undone at any time, as quickly as they were done. Romney can, if he wants, just cancel the directive as soon as he takes office and start deporting all those illegals who thought they had a lock on staying here.

Without engaging Congress, he just creates additional uncertainty out there, which is why presidents need to wield their power wisely.

IMO, this is a very unwise move and very unstatesmanlike. Regardless of my position on illegal immigration, he is creating temporary situations in areas of deep polarization.

How about we close the thread with those remarks?

I do not have your scholarship. Couldn’t have. It requires a personality really given to and loving research and study. I don’t think you know how much we need you and others like you. It’s a thing a beauty when you and others post the truth, the facts . . . the history.

Isn’t the fact that the Bible is so filled with history a clue? Good historians tell the truth of the past and without that truth, there is no argument against those who lie about the past. This simple truth, more than any other, has led to our current crisis. Lies form the foundation of illiberal claims. America was slandered, and according to the Bible, this was the first attack, which was to accuse the good guy of being a bad guy. And there has not been an effective counter voice (many exceptions, especially lately, eg: Amy Shlaes: The Forgotten Man).

Recently, someone commented on the Silmarillion which was Tolkein’s pre middle earth creation. The amount of detail, language, and story is truly astonishing. I loved it from the get go. Because I recognized it. It was a restatement of Genesis.

Ea, who is God, created the Valor, who are beings of immense power and immortality. There is, of course, a bad guy, but one of the seven Valor was Tulkas, the happy warrior.

And Tulkas is no irrational stupid clod. But he is first and foremost a partisan, one who needs no convincing, and one who counters the sadness of those lamenting. He fights and when he stops it is because he cannot fight any longer.

Lamentations are necessary but they cannot be the whole body. Fighting likewise. Tulkas cannot carry the day on his own. He is at once, both reserve strength and projection. Without that which projects him, he will not survive long.

Our greatest advantage is also our greatest weakness. Without unity we perish. Without your confidence and enthusiasm, we perish. And leave the world in darkness.

I’m not sure there’s many people here who share your exact diagnosis of the “deep” cause of decline as revolving around faith, but I’m actually one who does. And I’m a tormented agnostic.

I’ll close by saying that I’m glad your on my side (or that I’m on yours), and it really is the faith that you and others share that will, if anything will, save us from oblivion. My brand of “sad warriorism” (cut from the Whittaker Chambers cloth) only works if happier warriors are leading the charge.

http://townhall.com/video/gov.-scott-walker-hits-obama-economic-policies

The good stuffs at the end.

I claim we will prevail. Our history isn’t one of peace, really, or even happiness. It is more one of struggle to provide and preserve freedom. I think many believe this history is coming to a close. And I surely cannot blame them.

But our history gives me a clue. Freedom is deeply ingrained in our past, institutions, culture, religions, and people. I believe it is being preserved, slowly and not in a systematic way, but being preserved. And making a comeback as we battle for our religious freedom and to educate our children. That is the real battle.

What preserves is faith. Another way of saying it is people of faith are ahead of the curve. There are many good and decent secular conservatives. But they lack the belief in the battle of good v evil. They also lack faith in a power which preserves and a belief in help from another quarter.

But even there, there is a built-in stabalizer as results become too large to ignore. The question is, will the forces for tyranny have seized enough control to defeat and then enslave those who have learned.

(And there are also many good and decent people whose upbringing has caused them to view big business as the main enemy. Obama is opening their eyes that the Left as much as the Right is capable of corruption for money. So there’s that development too. Notice the union vote for Walker)

Our current crisis corresponds with the decline of reglious faith. But faith on the left is declining too. As it must because faith based on falseness must fail. I was just reading the estimable Mr. Schneiderman’s article on how Freud has been completely discredited.

http://stuartschneiderman.blogspot.com/2012/05/freud-files.html

So, maybe, we stand not on the precipice of defeat, but on the beginning of a slow but sure reform and return and respect for the wisdoms of tradition and Scripture.

I do believe we will not escape the consequences of debt. We shall suffer and we should suffer. But if one has faith that suffering is redemptive and will build a future for our children, then our history will contain another chapter in that fight of good against evil.