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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/26/the-glorious-egyptian-revolution/#comment-361851</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 17:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dean Esmay: well, I hope you&#039;re right.  When I look at the history and stated aims of the Muslim Brotherhood, I see them as having much more hard-line goals, united or not.  Will the trajectory of Egypt more resemble Turkey or will it more resemble Iran?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean Esmay: well, I hope you&#8217;re right.  When I look at the history and stated aims of the Muslim Brotherhood, I see them as having much more hard-line goals, united or not.  Will the trajectory of Egypt more resemble Turkey or will it more resemble Iran?</p>
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		By: Dean Esmay		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean Esmay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 17:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My read is that the Muslim Brotherhood has far more internal fractures than are readily apparent, and even if they win they now have a tiger by the tail, as someone else mentioned: if they refuse to allow future elections, they risk the same fate as Mubarak, and if they allow future elections, they risk being voted out of office if they are hated.

Democracy is a process, not an event. Nevertheless if we look at the sweep of history just over the last century, the spread of democracy has been either gradual or startlingly swift, depending on your point of view. I would expect Egypt to become a real functional democracy in about 20 years. What we&#039;re seeing now is just the birth pangs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My read is that the Muslim Brotherhood has far more internal fractures than are readily apparent, and even if they win they now have a tiger by the tail, as someone else mentioned: if they refuse to allow future elections, they risk the same fate as Mubarak, and if they allow future elections, they risk being voted out of office if they are hated.</p>
<p>Democracy is a process, not an event. Nevertheless if we look at the sweep of history just over the last century, the spread of democracy has been either gradual or startlingly swift, depending on your point of view. I would expect Egypt to become a real functional democracy in about 20 years. What we&#8217;re seeing now is just the birth pangs.</p>
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		By: ziontruth		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/26/the-glorious-egyptian-revolution/#comment-361748</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 12:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NeoConScum,

I once suggested (on FPM) that Israel take even further west to Red Sea–obtain control of the Suez Canal to act as a counter-threat to the Islamic oil spigots (if they turn them off to strong-arm Israel, Israel closes the canal to strong-arm them back).

Note, I don&#039;t believe the Suez Canal, or the Sinai Peninsula for that matter, is part of Jewish land, as it is to all opinions outside the Land of Israel, even the most expansionist; just advocating it as a temporary situation for the sake of geopolitical smarts. The Islamic imperialists use their oil profits to bankroll the jihad, as Mark Steyn has spared no effort pointing out, so fighting them on this front is legitimate warfare as far as I&#039;m concerned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NeoConScum,</p>
<p>I once suggested (on FPM) that Israel take even further west to Red Sea–obtain control of the Suez Canal to act as a counter-threat to the Islamic oil spigots (if they turn them off to strong-arm Israel, Israel closes the canal to strong-arm them back).</p>
<p>Note, I don&#8217;t believe the Suez Canal, or the Sinai Peninsula for that matter, is part of Jewish land, as it is to all opinions outside the Land of Israel, even the most expansionist; just advocating it as a temporary situation for the sake of geopolitical smarts. The Islamic imperialists use their oil profits to bankroll the jihad, as Mark Steyn has spared no effort pointing out, so fighting them on this front is legitimate warfare as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/26/the-glorious-egyptian-revolution/#comment-361008</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 16:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Israel: IF the Muslim Brotherhood takes power in Cairo--elected or coup&#039;--I&#039;d respectfully advise retaking the Sinai right down to the Red Sea. The quicker, the better. Fully arm &#038; fortify it.

A matter of simple protection, survival &#038; national preservation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Israel: IF the Muslim Brotherhood takes power in Cairo&#8211;elected or coup&#8217;&#8211;I&#8217;d respectfully advise retaking the Sinai right down to the Red Sea. The quicker, the better. Fully arm &amp; fortify it.</p>
<p>A matter of simple protection, survival &amp; national preservation.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/26/the-glorious-egyptian-revolution/#comment-360999</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 16:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always thought that the best case scenario for the Arab Spring was One Man One Vote One Time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought that the best case scenario for the Arab Spring was One Man One Vote One Time.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/26/the-glorious-egyptian-revolution/#comment-360892</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 07:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When the Left is in power in the US, totalitarian dictators tend to crop up all over the place in the rest of world.... coincidentally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the Left is in power in the US, totalitarian dictators tend to crop up all over the place in the rest of world&#8230;. coincidentally.</p>
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		By: Jim Kearney		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/26/the-glorious-egyptian-revolution/#comment-360881</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Kearney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 06:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just spent 3 months in Cairo doing trauma work and bodywork.  It was the young secular crowd that were the engine behind the revolution.  They had no idea what to do once they were successful   The MB were more organized and older and had wealth already established.  But the MB and the Salafis are very different and rivals even though they&#039;re both Islamist.   The MB have no idea how to govern now that they caught the tiger&#039;s tail.   The young secularists will not cave or bend to the Islamists.  The women are very strong and vocal.  The military are not Islamists and have no allegiance to them.  Most of Egypt is humiliated by the odd attempts at legislation such as allowing men to have sex with wives 6 hours after they&#039;re dead.   They have a modern secular history.  They&#039;re very funny, and have a great sense of humor.  The Islamists are looked down on.   I have hope for the Egyptian people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spent 3 months in Cairo doing trauma work and bodywork.  It was the young secular crowd that were the engine behind the revolution.  They had no idea what to do once they were successful   The MB were more organized and older and had wealth already established.  But the MB and the Salafis are very different and rivals even though they&#8217;re both Islamist.   The MB have no idea how to govern now that they caught the tiger&#8217;s tail.   The young secularists will not cave or bend to the Islamists.  The women are very strong and vocal.  The military are not Islamists and have no allegiance to them.  Most of Egypt is humiliated by the odd attempts at legislation such as allowing men to have sex with wives 6 hours after they&#8217;re dead.   They have a modern secular history.  They&#8217;re very funny, and have a great sense of humor.  The Islamists are looked down on.   I have hope for the Egyptian people.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/26/the-glorious-egyptian-revolution/#comment-360766</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fear not, ol&#039; Peanut, Jimmy Carter says that the MD would definitely keep any peace treaties with Israel.

That would be the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan)  whose motto is:

&#039;Allah is our objective; the Prophet is our leader; the Quran is our law; Jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear not, ol&#8217; Peanut, Jimmy Carter says that the MD would definitely keep any peace treaties with Israel.</p>
<p>That would be the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan)  whose motto is:</p>
<p>&#8216;Allah is our objective; the Prophet is our leader; the Quran is our law; Jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Sam L.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/26/the-glorious-egyptian-revolution/#comment-360755</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Given the MB was the only really organized group...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the MB was the only really organized group&#8230;</p>
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		By: Parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/26/the-glorious-egyptian-revolution/#comment-360747</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes neo, it was easy to predict the MB would win the elections.  However, we don&#039;t know what the top brass are thinking.  Can they reach an accommodation with the MB?  I have not the slight insight into that issue. But I suspect that if the generals believe a MB government will purge the army -- or at the first sign of it happening -- they will decide to purge the MB. Coup de&#039;etat translates into many language, including Arabic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes neo, it was easy to predict the MB would win the elections.  However, we don&#8217;t know what the top brass are thinking.  Can they reach an accommodation with the MB?  I have not the slight insight into that issue. But I suspect that if the generals believe a MB government will purge the army &#8212; or at the first sign of it happening &#8212; they will decide to purge the MB. Coup de&#8217;etat translates into many language, including Arabic.</p>
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