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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357735</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 02:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Over on Drudge there&#039;s a link with a Baltimore newspaper report of 2-separate black gangs attacking &#038; beating one white youth in that city. BUT, in the age of PC-Insanity &#038; The Rule of The Boy King, it&#039;s a No-No to tell the accurate truth in reporting such an incident. So, the young man was attacked and beaten by &quot;two separate gangs.&quot;

I have yet to hear blacks in the &#039;hood refer to themselves as &quot;African Americans&quot;. They use the word,&quot;Black&quot;. Period. A young man named Jarvielle whom I&#039;ve been seeing every Friday afternoon for 3-yrs, 4-months in a tough little section of Clermont-Minneola(Age 14, next month), used the expression in referring to the rubber band holding his glasses together today as having,&quot;Nigger rigged it&quot;. Can you imagine the keening, wailing, rending that ANY Lib-Lefty of White Skin would GASP over such a thing? When I used the term,&quot;Ghetto rigged&quot;, Jarv corrected me with,&quot;Naw, it&#039;s Nigger rigged, Mister Neo.&quot; LOVE it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over on Drudge there&#8217;s a link with a Baltimore newspaper report of 2-separate black gangs attacking &amp; beating one white youth in that city. BUT, in the age of PC-Insanity &amp; The Rule of The Boy King, it&#8217;s a No-No to tell the accurate truth in reporting such an incident. So, the young man was attacked and beaten by &#8220;two separate gangs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have yet to hear blacks in the &#8216;hood refer to themselves as &#8220;African Americans&#8221;. They use the word,&#8221;Black&#8221;. Period. A young man named Jarvielle whom I&#8217;ve been seeing every Friday afternoon for 3-yrs, 4-months in a tough little section of Clermont-Minneola(Age 14, next month), used the expression in referring to the rubber band holding his glasses together today as having,&#8221;Nigger rigged it&#8221;. Can you imagine the keening, wailing, rending that ANY Lib-Lefty of White Skin would GASP over such a thing? When I used the term,&#8221;Ghetto rigged&#8221;, Jarv corrected me with,&#8221;Naw, it&#8217;s Nigger rigged, Mister Neo.&#8221; LOVE it.</p>
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		By: lilitum		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357663</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 21:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do people here honestly think that black voters would support, say, Herman Cain against a white Democratic candidate?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do people here honestly think that black voters would support, say, Herman Cain against a white Democratic candidate?</p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357651</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 21:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo,

&quot; Most voters will not change their votes from 2008.&quot;

Actually, I do not agree with that.  It&#039;s my contention that many people voted for Obama based on the perception that he, himself fostered (post-racial, post-partisan, etc.).

I believe that many of these people are sorely disappointed (Glenn Reynolds&#039;, Instapundit, favorite phrase for this is &quot;And another rube self-identifies!&quot;).  When people like John Lovitz, admittedly a Dem, comes out and publicly chastizes Obama and notes there are many people in Hollywood who agree with him but won&#039;t say so publicly, something is seriously afoot.  Likewise, in Southwestern PA I have heard union member Democrats decrying Obama administration policies.  I repeat, something is seriously afoot here.

Certainly the hard-core Obama supporters will vote for him again, but remember that only ~21% of voters identify themselves as liberal and of course one must add the black vote to that total, too.  Romney is ahead by 10% with Independents and his share of the women&#039;s vote is growing.  I think votes WILL change this cycle.  My curiosity is will they change in a way that affects the Electoral College vote?  I think they will more dramatically than most people think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo,</p>
<p>&#8221; Most voters will not change their votes from 2008.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I do not agree with that.  It&#8217;s my contention that many people voted for Obama based on the perception that he, himself fostered (post-racial, post-partisan, etc.).</p>
<p>I believe that many of these people are sorely disappointed (Glenn Reynolds&#8217;, Instapundit, favorite phrase for this is &#8220;And another rube self-identifies!&#8221;).  When people like John Lovitz, admittedly a Dem, comes out and publicly chastizes Obama and notes there are many people in Hollywood who agree with him but won&#8217;t say so publicly, something is seriously afoot.  Likewise, in Southwestern PA I have heard union member Democrats decrying Obama administration policies.  I repeat, something is seriously afoot here.</p>
<p>Certainly the hard-core Obama supporters will vote for him again, but remember that only ~21% of voters identify themselves as liberal and of course one must add the black vote to that total, too.  Romney is ahead by 10% with Independents and his share of the women&#8217;s vote is growing.  I think votes WILL change this cycle.  My curiosity is will they change in a way that affects the Electoral College vote?  I think they will more dramatically than most people think.</p>
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		By: MVH		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357621</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 20:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m shocked. &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Shocked!!!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; to find that &lt;i&gt;sheeple&lt;/i&gt; have a herd mentality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m shocked. <i><b>Shocked!!!</b></i> to find that <i>sheeple</i> have a herd mentality.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357507</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 15:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T: &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I ask you, if 47% of the electorate already saw through the charade of 2008 has he given an additional 4% of the electorate a reason to vote against him in 2012?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Good point. Most voters will not change their votes from 2008. It takes only a small portion to change the election, a change which was evident in the Republicans gaining ~60 House seats in 2010.

I doubt that many blacks will vote against Obama for his stance on gay marriage.  I predict that a more significant minority of blacks will abstain because of his stance on gay marriage.

Blacks have been disproportionately hurt by the bad economy. After 3+ years in office, Obama can no longer blame Bush. Unfortunately, most Blacks  will vote against their economic interests and vote for Obama. Sounds like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Matter-Kansas-Conservatives-America/dp/080507774X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1337354609&#038;sr=1-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What’s the Matter with Kansas?&lt;/a&gt;    thesis, but  applied to Democrat voters.

It appears that Obama is doing all he can to fire up his base voters. Given his lackluster performance as POTUS, his base voters are less likely to go to the polls in November. While Obama&#039;s attempts to fire up his base may induce some to vote who would otherwise abstain, he will not be able to induce all of his unenthusiastic base voters to go to the polls. The more that Obama fires up his base, the more he will antagonize others.  Sounds like Obama is between a rock and a hard place. Obama must figure he has no alternative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T: </p>
<blockquote><p><i>I ask you, if 47% of the electorate already saw through the charade of 2008 has he given an additional 4% of the electorate a reason to vote against him in 2012?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Good point. Most voters will not change their votes from 2008. It takes only a small portion to change the election, a change which was evident in the Republicans gaining ~60 House seats in 2010.</p>
<p>I doubt that many blacks will vote against Obama for his stance on gay marriage.  I predict that a more significant minority of blacks will abstain because of his stance on gay marriage.</p>
<p>Blacks have been disproportionately hurt by the bad economy. After 3+ years in office, Obama can no longer blame Bush. Unfortunately, most Blacks  will vote against their economic interests and vote for Obama. Sounds like the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Matter-Kansas-Conservatives-America/dp/080507774X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1337354609&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">What’s the Matter with Kansas?</a>    thesis, but  applied to Democrat voters.</p>
<p>It appears that Obama is doing all he can to fire up his base voters. Given his lackluster performance as POTUS, his base voters are less likely to go to the polls in November. While Obama&#8217;s attempts to fire up his base may induce some to vote who would otherwise abstain, he will not be able to induce all of his unenthusiastic base voters to go to the polls. The more that Obama fires up his base, the more he will antagonize others.  Sounds like Obama is between a rock and a hard place. Obama must figure he has no alternative.</p>
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		By: Trimegistus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357479</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama&#039;s supporters always assume he&#039;s lying to someone else, never to them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s supporters always assume he&#8217;s lying to someone else, never to them.</p>
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		By: Ed Bonderenka		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357414</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It used to be that the &quot;sistah&#039;s&quot; resented a black man with a white woman. Were all his relationships prior to Michelle with composite white women?
Apart from that, I wouldn&#039;t infer that most black voters are clueless since that seems to be true of most white voters also.
 I meet so many people who have no idea about what&#039;s going on. They admit it it.
Then they say &quot;It&#039;s all politics, They&#039;re all liars&quot; to cover their ignorance. 
Some I&#039;ve found to be curious and wanting someone to catch them up on the story since they&#039;ve come in late.
These we need to handle with care, and not turn off with diatribes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It used to be that the &#8220;sistah&#8217;s&#8221; resented a black man with a white woman. Were all his relationships prior to Michelle with composite white women?<br />
Apart from that, I wouldn&#8217;t infer that most black voters are clueless since that seems to be true of most white voters also.<br />
 I meet so many people who have no idea about what&#8217;s going on. They admit it it.<br />
Then they say &#8220;It&#8217;s all politics, They&#8217;re all liars&#8221; to cover their ignorance.<br />
Some I&#8217;ve found to be curious and wanting someone to catch them up on the story since they&#8217;ve come in late.<br />
These we need to handle with care, and not turn off with diatribes.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357357</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 06:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The funny thing is, Barry O&#039;s not black in any meaningful sense of the word.  He just looks black.  And that&#039;s enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is, Barry O&#8217;s not black in any meaningful sense of the word.  He just looks black.  And that&#8217;s enough.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357345</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 05:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hegel, who secularized Thomas (who had Marianized Aristotle), laid the foundation for state authority. Without him, Nietzsche, aka, group insanity, lacks foundation. 

The battle is not reason against non-reason, although it often looks that way. The battle is the Jews (Torah) against Cain (Haters).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hegel, who secularized Thomas (who had Marianized Aristotle), laid the foundation for state authority. Without him, Nietzsche, aka, group insanity, lacks foundation. </p>
<p>The battle is not reason against non-reason, although it often looks that way. The battle is the Jews (Torah) against Cain (Haters).</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/05/17/black-voters-forgive-obama/#comment-357340</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ain&#039;t Hegel a pip.

Yep, like a throw stone

skipping a skip

upon the water.

He may, however,

be more than just

a casual kink.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ain&#8217;t Hegel a pip.</p>
<p>Yep, like a throw stone</p>
<p>skipping a skip</p>
<p>upon the water.</p>
<p>He may, however,</p>
<p>be more than just</p>
<p>a casual kink.</p>
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