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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/04/11/george-zimmerman/#comment-341757</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[I thought he was temporarily visiting and staying with a relative or family friend who lived in the gated community.  And that the community is not a luxury community, but a middle class one that&#039;s had a lot of trouble with crime.

Don&#039;t remember where I read that, but it was towards the time the story first came out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought he was temporarily visiting and staying with a relative or family friend who lived in the gated community.  And that the community is not a luxury community, but a middle class one that&#8217;s had a lot of trouble with crime.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t remember where I read that, but it was towards the time the story first came out.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/04/11/george-zimmerman/#comment-341751</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.S.--I&#039;d also like to know just how &quot;gated&quot; this community really was.  Are we talking an attended entrance with barriers and then a continuous fence surrounding the entire community, or are we talking about a symbolic gate--not attended at night, or perhaps, even attended at all, and haphazard, gap-filled fencing that is more decorative than effective?  Because the one description/drawing I saw makes it look like the route Treyvon took going back to his house-according to some sources some 1,000 feet from the 7-11 where he bought the Skittles,  cut through this &quot;gated&quot; community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.S.&#8211;I&#8217;d also like to know just how &#8220;gated&#8221; this community really was.  Are we talking an attended entrance with barriers and then a continuous fence surrounding the entire community, or are we talking about a symbolic gate&#8211;not attended at night, or perhaps, even attended at all, and haphazard, gap-filled fencing that is more decorative than effective?  Because the one description/drawing I saw makes it look like the route Treyvon took going back to his house-according to some sources some 1,000 feet from the 7-11 where he bought the Skittles,  cut through this &#8220;gated&#8221; community.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/04/11/george-zimmerman/#comment-341714</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.--Apparently Zimmerman told the 911 operator he was &quot;sick and tired of these &quot;a-holes&quot; getting away,&quot; so I presume that there was a history of intruders coming into this community and getting chased out. 

I&#039;d like to see what kind of history there has been of this kind of thing, are we talking vandalism, robberies, or loitering, and just cutting through.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.&#8211;Apparently Zimmerman told the 911 operator he was &#8220;sick and tired of these &#8220;a-holes&#8221; getting away,&#8221; so I presume that there was a history of intruders coming into this community and getting chased out. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see what kind of history there has been of this kind of thing, are we talking vandalism, robberies, or loitering, and just cutting through.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/04/11/george-zimmerman/#comment-341712</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don Carlos- From what I have read, it was around 7:30 P.M., it was dark, and it was raining.  One would wonder what Treyvon--who one account says had a girlfriend in one of these townhouses, and was on the cell phone with her part of the time as this incident played out-- was doing there, according to Zimmerman,  looking around, and walking through the wet grass behind the fenced off yards of townhouses in this gated community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Carlos- From what I have read, it was around 7:30 P.M., it was dark, and it was raining.  One would wonder what Treyvon&#8211;who one account says had a girlfriend in one of these townhouses, and was on the cell phone with her part of the time as this incident played out&#8211; was doing there, according to Zimmerman,  looking around, and walking through the wet grass behind the fenced off yards of townhouses in this gated community.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/04/11/george-zimmerman/#comment-341644</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have the impression that Zimmerman is a modern day Socrates, drinking the hemlock because that is what society and its laws require of him.

We have so much heat here, so little light.

 Trayvon was &quot;just walking home&quot; through a GATED community where he did not reside, and not in its streets, but via backyards? At what time did the T-Z encounter occur? Day or night?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the impression that Zimmerman is a modern day Socrates, drinking the hemlock because that is what society and its laws require of him.</p>
<p>We have so much heat here, so little light.</p>
<p> Trayvon was &#8220;just walking home&#8221; through a GATED community where he did not reside, and not in its streets, but via backyards? At what time did the T-Z encounter occur? Day or night?</p>
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		By: JuliB		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/04/11/george-zimmerman/#comment-341613</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is one of the dangers of carrying a gun - if you use it, you will be in uncomfortably close contact with the criminal justice system.  While the old saw is &#039;better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6&#039; is as true as ever, the judging seems to be pretty painful.

My sympathies extend to everyone in this tragedy, with an exception for the race hustlers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the dangers of carrying a gun &#8211; if you use it, you will be in uncomfortably close contact with the criminal justice system.  While the old saw is &#8216;better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6&#8217; is as true as ever, the judging seems to be pretty painful.</p>
<p>My sympathies extend to everyone in this tragedy, with an exception for the race hustlers.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[rawdawgbuffalo, do you realize that you had to go back to 1955 for your examples? 

the people who ran the highlander school, where Rosa Parks went, MLK and pete seeger, were found to have been blowing up black families they had moved into houses themselves!  they were reconstructing the hstory of the democrats and knights of the white camelia so that what they did would be remembered and a black man would never vote for the Radicals again!!!!!!!

Lynching Statistics
(This page was developed by a Berea College student as part of a course on Chesnutt)
http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynchingstat.html

ever ask why the stats stop at the year they did? and why do they START at that date? 

Lynchings, by Year and Race,
1882-1968*
http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynching_table_year.html

MOST of the lynchings happen leading up to the HAYES tilden... in which democrats and the knights of the white camelia ran trough the parishes and murdered blacks... (in numbers VASTLY larger than the lynchings!!!)

Knights of the White Camelia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_White_Camelia

The Knights of the White Camelia was a secret group of the American South from 1867 through about 1870, similar to and associated with the Ku Klux Klan,&lt;b&gt; supporting white supremacy and opposed to Republican (party) government.&lt;/b&gt;

so who are you actually on the side of? 
the people who wanted slavery to stop, or the people who wanted to keep it and were willing to murder blacks in large numbers to have it? 

oh... should i also point out that democrats being socilaist and all, are also trying to create a slave state... 

do you think blacks under socialism will fare better?  the soviet union elected their first black last year... the democrats didnt until the 1930s... the republicans did before lincoln... 

African Americans in the United States Congress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress

African Americans began serving in greater numbers in the United States Congress during the Reconstruction Era following the American Civil War after slaves were emancipated and granted citizenship rights.

GREATER numbers... ie. they started serving in congress BEFORE slaves were freed by the white race and by radical republicans... 

[the white western civ is the only race that has abolished slavery in as many forms as possible... africa still has slaves, so does the arab states, as does china, and russia, and asia. and NONE of them are even a bit caring about stopping it... ]

the wiki is dishonest... 
it does not start BEFORE reconstruction
so if you read it, your going to think that it was that that did it.. no.. it was befrore that.

read this
&lt;b&gt;The Thirteenth Amendment (ratified December 6, 1865), abolished slavery.&lt;/b&gt;

1865.. and the lunching stats start at? 
Lynchings, by Year and Race, 1882-1968*

why? because thats when the democrats and knights of the white camelia acted. 

&lt;i&gt;The first African American elected to the U.S. Senate was Hiram Rhodes Revels, who in 1869 filled the seat vacated by Confederate President Jefferson Davis.

Also in 1869, fellow &lt;b&gt;Republican&lt;/b&gt; Joseph H. Rainey became the first black member of the U.S. House of Representatives.&lt;/i&gt;

Blanche K. Bruce,Born into slavery in 1841, Elected to the Senate in 1874...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_firsts

first african american DEMOCRAT.. 
&lt;b&gt;First African American elected to the U.S. House of Representatives as a Democrat: Arthur W. Mitchell (Illinois)&lt;/b&gt;

see... after the democrats had murdered them for 40-60 years, they got smart and switched to the democrats... 

even THAT Wiki is doctored

here i will show you.. 
search for republican on that page, you get this.. 

1928 - First post-Reconstruction African American elected to U.S. House of Representatives: Oscar Stanton De Priest (Republican; Illinois)

but IF you know REVEL above... 
   1870 January: First African American elected to either chamber of the U.S. Congress: Senator Hiram Rhodes Revels (R-Miss.)

see? search for first republican, and you get 1928... search for the ACTUAL First republican revel, and get 1870

but most blacks dont know their own histories. heck, they dont know the man who INVENTED kwanza stuck a soldering iron down a black womans throat, and crushed anothers foot in a vice... merry xmas. 

but in a way... some nasty white racists woudl say... they deserve what they get if they are so stupid... 

hard to argue with that if you know the history, the facts, and even know what SANGER the inventor of the NEGRO PROJECT said to do IF the blacks started to wake up.. 

IF you have read a copy of her AUTOBIOGRAPHY you would know the quotes they say are not hers ARE hers.

http://womenshistory.about.com/od/quotes/a/margaret_sanger_2.htm

says this
&lt;i&gt;A quote taken out of context: &quot;We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.&quot; (In the context, it&#039;s apparent that she didn&#039;t want such word to get out because such a characterization of her work was common -- and untrue. Then as now.) &lt;/i&gt;

this is an outright lie...
the whole quote is..

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate
the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten that
idea out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.&quot;

i guess the more rebellious members dont read, but get their orders from Reverend Jackson, or Reverend Al Sharpton, reverence wrights, reverent fleager, reverend (Shall i continue?).&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rawdawgbuffalo, do you realize that you had to go back to 1955 for your examples? </p>
<p>the people who ran the highlander school, where Rosa Parks went, MLK and pete seeger, were found to have been blowing up black families they had moved into houses themselves!  they were reconstructing the hstory of the democrats and knights of the white camelia so that what they did would be remembered and a black man would never vote for the Radicals again!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Lynching Statistics<br />
(This page was developed by a Berea College student as part of a course on Chesnutt)<br />
<a href="http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynchingstat.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynchingstat.html</a></p>
<p>ever ask why the stats stop at the year they did? and why do they START at that date? </p>
<p>Lynchings, by Year and Race,<br />
1882-1968*<br />
<a href="http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynching_table_year.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.chesnuttarchive.org/classroom/lynching_table_year.html</a></p>
<p>MOST of the lynchings happen leading up to the HAYES tilden&#8230; in which democrats and the knights of the white camelia ran trough the parishes and murdered blacks&#8230; (in numbers VASTLY larger than the lynchings!!!)</p>
<p>Knights of the White Camelia<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_White_Camelia" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_White_Camelia</a></p>
<p>The Knights of the White Camelia was a secret group of the American South from 1867 through about 1870, similar to and associated with the Ku Klux Klan,<b> supporting white supremacy and opposed to Republican (party) government.</b></p>
<p>so who are you actually on the side of?<br />
the people who wanted slavery to stop, or the people who wanted to keep it and were willing to murder blacks in large numbers to have it? </p>
<p>oh&#8230; should i also point out that democrats being socilaist and all, are also trying to create a slave state&#8230; </p>
<p>do you think blacks under socialism will fare better?  the soviet union elected their first black last year&#8230; the democrats didnt until the 1930s&#8230; the republicans did before lincoln&#8230; </p>
<p>African Americans in the United States Congress<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans_in_the_United_States_Congress</a></p>
<p>African Americans began serving in greater numbers in the United States Congress during the Reconstruction Era following the American Civil War after slaves were emancipated and granted citizenship rights.</p>
<p>GREATER numbers&#8230; ie. they started serving in congress BEFORE slaves were freed by the white race and by radical republicans&#8230; </p>
<p>[the white western civ is the only race that has abolished slavery in as many forms as possible&#8230; africa still has slaves, so does the arab states, as does china, and russia, and asia. and NONE of them are even a bit caring about stopping it&#8230; ]</p>
<p>the wiki is dishonest&#8230;<br />
it does not start BEFORE reconstruction<br />
so if you read it, your going to think that it was that that did it.. no.. it was befrore that.</p>
<p>read this<br />
<b>The Thirteenth Amendment (ratified December 6, 1865), abolished slavery.</b></p>
<p>1865.. and the lunching stats start at?<br />
Lynchings, by Year and Race, 1882-1968*</p>
<p>why? because thats when the democrats and knights of the white camelia acted. </p>
<p><i>The first African American elected to the U.S. Senate was Hiram Rhodes Revels, who in 1869 filled the seat vacated by Confederate President Jefferson Davis.</p>
<p>Also in 1869, fellow <b>Republican</b> Joseph H. Rainey became the first black member of the U.S. House of Representatives.</i></p>
<p>Blanche K. Bruce,Born into slavery in 1841, Elected to the Senate in 1874&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_firsts" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_firsts</a></p>
<p>first african american DEMOCRAT..<br />
<b>First African American elected to the U.S. House of Representatives as a Democrat: Arthur W. Mitchell (Illinois)</b></p>
<p>see&#8230; after the democrats had murdered them for 40-60 years, they got smart and switched to the democrats&#8230; </p>
<p>even THAT Wiki is doctored</p>
<p>here i will show you..<br />
search for republican on that page, you get this.. </p>
<p>1928 &#8211; First post-Reconstruction African American elected to U.S. House of Representatives: Oscar Stanton De Priest (Republican; Illinois)</p>
<p>but IF you know REVEL above&#8230;<br />
   1870 January: First African American elected to either chamber of the U.S. Congress: Senator Hiram Rhodes Revels (R-Miss.)</p>
<p>see? search for first republican, and you get 1928&#8230; search for the ACTUAL First republican revel, and get 1870</p>
<p>but most blacks dont know their own histories. heck, they dont know the man who INVENTED kwanza stuck a soldering iron down a black womans throat, and crushed anothers foot in a vice&#8230; merry xmas. </p>
<p>but in a way&#8230; some nasty white racists woudl say&#8230; they deserve what they get if they are so stupid&#8230; </p>
<p>hard to argue with that if you know the history, the facts, and even know what SANGER the inventor of the NEGRO PROJECT said to do IF the blacks started to wake up.. </p>
<p>IF you have read a copy of her AUTOBIOGRAPHY you would know the quotes they say are not hers ARE hers.</p>
<p><a href="http://womenshistory.about.com/od/quotes/a/margaret_sanger_2.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://womenshistory.about.com/od/quotes/a/margaret_sanger_2.htm</a></p>
<p>says this<br />
<i>A quote taken out of context: &#8220;We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.&#8221; (In the context, it&#8217;s apparent that she didn&#8217;t want such word to get out because such a characterization of her work was common &#8212; and untrue. Then as now.) </i></p>
<p>this is an outright lie&#8230;<br />
the whole quote is..</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8220;We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate<br />
the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten that<br />
idea out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.&#8221;</p>
<p>i guess the more rebellious members dont read, but get their orders from Reverend Jackson, or Reverend Al Sharpton, reverence wrights, reverent fleager, reverend (Shall i continue?).</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“We do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition.”

Even if true, that&#039;s exactly what someone who was prosecuting for public relations purposes would say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“We do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition.”</p>
<p>Even if true, that&#8217;s exactly what someone who was prosecuting for public relations purposes would say.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/04/11/george-zimmerman/#comment-341527</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[note from neo-neocon: this is a comment by &quot;T,&quot; but for some reason it was being blocked by the spam filter.  I&#039;m posting it this way instead to see whether it works.]  

I&#039;m interested that no one here or anywhere else has yet posted on Angela Corey&#039;s comment quoted above:
     
&quot;We have to protect this prosecution and this investigation for Trayvon, for George Zimmerman.&quot;
     
She is on a first-name basis with the decedent but uses the full name of the alleged beating victim.  Note also that it&#039;s not &quot;. . . AND Geroge Zimmerman.&quot;  It seems that Zimmerman&#039;s name is added almost as an afterthought.  (Disclosure:  I haven&#039;t heard a taped comment, I&#039;m writing only from the printed quote above.)
     
    I&#039;d don&#039;t think that this presupposes a verdict, but it sure seems like a poker &quot;tell&quot; of the special prosecutor&#039;s bias and intentions in this case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[note from neo-neocon: this is a comment by &#8220;T,&#8221; but for some reason it was being blocked by the spam filter.  I&#8217;m posting it this way instead to see whether it works.]  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested that no one here or anywhere else has yet posted on Angela Corey&#8217;s comment quoted above:</p>
<p>&#8220;We have to protect this prosecution and this investigation for Trayvon, for George Zimmerman.&#8221;</p>
<p>She is on a first-name basis with the decedent but uses the full name of the alleged beating victim.  Note also that it&#8217;s not &#8220;. . . AND Geroge Zimmerman.&#8221;  It seems that Zimmerman&#8217;s name is added almost as an afterthought.  (Disclosure:  I haven&#8217;t heard a taped comment, I&#8217;m writing only from the printed quote above.)</p>
<p>    I&#8217;d don&#8217;t think that this presupposes a verdict, but it sure seems like a poker &#8220;tell&#8221; of the special prosecutor&#8217;s bias and intentions in this case.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[rawdagbuffalo: happy trolling.  It is very important to prepare the ground in case there&#039;s an acquittal, isn&#039;t it?  The acquittal must be invalidated before the trial even begins or before you know what the evidence will be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rawdagbuffalo: happy trolling.  It is very important to prepare the ground in case there&#8217;s an acquittal, isn&#8217;t it?  The acquittal must be invalidated before the trial even begins or before you know what the evidence will be.</p>
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