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		By: Bob from Virginia		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great input Parker: Below is a link by Prof. Rubin elaborating on a society&#039;s descend into silliness.  Unfortunately it will probably be tragedy that will return America to it&#039;s values.  For that reason I look upon an Obama re-election with both amusement and dread.  Amusement because a people stupid to vote for Obama deserves what it gets.

http://pjmedia.com/barryrubin/2012/04/06/why-is-the-political-situation-so-bleak-because-the-elite-fears-being-unfashionable-more-than-being-wrong/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great input Parker: Below is a link by Prof. Rubin elaborating on a society&#8217;s descend into silliness.  Unfortunately it will probably be tragedy that will return America to it&#8217;s values.  For that reason I look upon an Obama re-election with both amusement and dread.  Amusement because a people stupid to vote for Obama deserves what it gets.</p>
<p><a href="http://pjmedia.com/barryrubin/2012/04/06/why-is-the-political-situation-so-bleak-because-the-elite-fears-being-unfashionable-more-than-being-wrong/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://pjmedia.com/barryrubin/2012/04/06/why-is-the-political-situation-so-bleak-because-the-elite-fears-being-unfashionable-more-than-being-wrong/</a></p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 19:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob from Virginia–I think you have put your finger on another major factor, the audience is increasingly composed of people who have no historical knowledge and thus no real conception of what their ancestors had to go through to build up what we might call the “bank account” that today’s population is the beneficiary of and lives the high life off of;  the incredible struggle and back-breaking toil, sacrifice, privation, and thrift  that something like 20 past generations had to live in their daily lives in order to transform a virgin land into what we see today.  Then came WWII, and we became the world’s economic and military colossus and the only “superpower” and, in effect, I would argue, the heirs of Rome.  
But, what people get too cheaply they do not value, and see no reason, especially, to cherish and guard.  Never knowing in detail how things came to be, we all think that things are just inevitably as they are, and will be that way forever, but if our ancestors knew anything it was that catastrophe was always just around the corner, that things that go up can come down, and that eternal vigilance was the price of freedom.

The United States was originally and until, say, the later 19th century a predominantly agricultural country and a very rural one, and agriculture promotes certain values–hard work, community, thrift, planning, looking ahead, and a keen eye for changing conditions; clearing the land and farming it was brutal work that took its toll, ground people down, and injuries, sickness, and early death were way too common, and the average lifespan was something like half what it is today.  Moreover living in small communities, you knew your neighbors, families were not scattered but lived close together, and most meetings with people were face to face.  In this environment/society reputation was everything, for you could not very easily survive or flourish if people had a bad opinion of you and did not trust your word.  Now, who really cares? These people had firsthand experience of the price they paid for their freedom and prosperity, and the schools played a major role in keeping that social structure and that mind-set alive.  

Now, when 82% of our population lives in cities where anonymity is often the rule, families are scattered geographically, rural life is diminishing and  farming comprises just  0.7% of our economy, that experience base and all the attitudes that it promoted are mostly gone, we hardly care what &quot;the neighbors&quot; might think because we don&#039;t know them, their good or bad opinion of us has  no real effect on our survival, nor is our family likely around to witness our behavior i.e. all of the old, traditional  social constraints that made for an orderly, if dull, life have been been done away with--and our schools are trying mightily to efface our past, destroy the “Americanness” and national unity they used to play such a major role in creating and preserving, and they, instead, promote the reach for some sort of far Left Utopia, if only we let those--so much wiser than we–in charge have their way, and let them rearrange things to make things much more &quot;fair&quot; and us even more “comfortable.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob from Virginia–I think you have put your finger on another major factor, the audience is increasingly composed of people who have no historical knowledge and thus no real conception of what their ancestors had to go through to build up what we might call the “bank account” that today’s population is the beneficiary of and lives the high life off of;  the incredible struggle and back-breaking toil, sacrifice, privation, and thrift  that something like 20 past generations had to live in their daily lives in order to transform a virgin land into what we see today.  Then came WWII, and we became the world’s economic and military colossus and the only “superpower” and, in effect, I would argue, the heirs of Rome.<br />
But, what people get too cheaply they do not value, and see no reason, especially, to cherish and guard.  Never knowing in detail how things came to be, we all think that things are just inevitably as they are, and will be that way forever, but if our ancestors knew anything it was that catastrophe was always just around the corner, that things that go up can come down, and that eternal vigilance was the price of freedom.</p>
<p>The United States was originally and until, say, the later 19th century a predominantly agricultural country and a very rural one, and agriculture promotes certain values–hard work, community, thrift, planning, looking ahead, and a keen eye for changing conditions; clearing the land and farming it was brutal work that took its toll, ground people down, and injuries, sickness, and early death were way too common, and the average lifespan was something like half what it is today.  Moreover living in small communities, you knew your neighbors, families were not scattered but lived close together, and most meetings with people were face to face.  In this environment/society reputation was everything, for you could not very easily survive or flourish if people had a bad opinion of you and did not trust your word.  Now, who really cares? These people had firsthand experience of the price they paid for their freedom and prosperity, and the schools played a major role in keeping that social structure and that mind-set alive.  </p>
<p>Now, when 82% of our population lives in cities where anonymity is often the rule, families are scattered geographically, rural life is diminishing and  farming comprises just  0.7% of our economy, that experience base and all the attitudes that it promoted are mostly gone, we hardly care what &#8220;the neighbors&#8221; might think because we don&#8217;t know them, their good or bad opinion of us has  no real effect on our survival, nor is our family likely around to witness our behavior i.e. all of the old, traditional  social constraints that made for an orderly, if dull, life have been been done away with&#8211;and our schools are trying mightily to efface our past, destroy the “Americanness” and national unity they used to play such a major role in creating and preserving, and they, instead, promote the reach for some sort of far Left Utopia, if only we let those&#8211;so much wiser than we–in charge have their way, and let them rearrange things to make things much more &#8220;fair&#8221; and us even more “comfortable.”</p>
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		By: Bob from Virginia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I partially agree with you Wolla Dalbo, but I suspect part of the problem is simpler.  No one can argue that leftists have sized control of large parts of education.  My daughters high school reader should have been renamed liberal guiltfest and we all know the US was silly and the North Koreans swell guys because MASH told us so.  However no one pays attention to the effects of 60 years of peace and prosperity.  This has produced an egocentric spoiled generation.  One who cannot imagine hardship, sacrifice and will rationalize any excuse to avoid it.  Affluence delays maturity and the US has had more of it in less time than any people in history.  

If it were not for the Iranian bomb I would be glad to see Obama win re-election, maybe the lost prosperity and liberty would awaken the public from their silly vacation from history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I partially agree with you Wolla Dalbo, but I suspect part of the problem is simpler.  No one can argue that leftists have sized control of large parts of education.  My daughters high school reader should have been renamed liberal guiltfest and we all know the US was silly and the North Koreans swell guys because MASH told us so.  However no one pays attention to the effects of 60 years of peace and prosperity.  This has produced an egocentric spoiled generation.  One who cannot imagine hardship, sacrifice and will rationalize any excuse to avoid it.  Affluence delays maturity and the US has had more of it in less time than any people in history.  </p>
<p>If it were not for the Iranian bomb I would be glad to see Obama win re-election, maybe the lost prosperity and liberty would awaken the public from their silly vacation from history.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I have been arguing here and elsewhere, the audience which is viewing all this evidence of the far Left agenda of Obama &#038; Co. and of Obama’s unfitness for office–or not and, instead, has its collective eyes glued to Judge Judy, American Idol,  WWR , Jersey Shore, the Biggest Loser, etc. etc.–is not the audience of past generations, either in background, knowledge, temperament, or attention span, and deliberately so.

The Great Depression/WWII era audience of “ the Greatest Generation”--now passing from the scene–was given the pitch for Communism and only a very few–here and there–bought it.  

So, the Left’s idea was to:

First, “rebrand” and repackage its program as Progressivism/Liberalism, and concern for human rights, the environment, women’s rights,  fairness and equal justice, and all sorts of other good and high sounding things.

Second, to capture the educational establishment, and to change the content of education, so as to subvert and/or strip away all of the fundamental knowledge and those analytical  tools necessary for citizens to be able to play an effective part in the public debate and to understand the arguments and actions being taken in our democratic Republic–subjects like the histories of Greece and Rome, American history,  Rhetoric, Logic, Mathematics, Economics, Philosophy, and many other subjects, to Balkanize the students and divide them by race and culture, and to replace these subjects with  subverted, dumbed down versions of their former selves, propaganda, junk and piffle and, further,  to insist on the primacy of the Postmodern viewpoint, in which there are no standards, and nothing can be measured or is better than any other thing–and which makes the act of judgment not only useless, but an act of prejudice, and part of a power game to keep the underclass down.

Paralleling this subversion and occupation of education were similar very successful efforts waged against popular culture, religion, government and politics, law and business, relations between the sexes and the family, racial relations, community organizations, etc. etc. 

So, I believe that many in the audience (I don’t know what percentage, but I believe it to be alarmingly large) that is witnessing all this today have very different interests, have far less knowledge and background, a very different attitude towards life, and stand in a far different place than their forbearers and, therefore, see things very differently–and, again, deliberately so. 

Thus, the pitch is being made again today to a new audience, and whether they will see it for what it is, or  buy it or not is open to question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have been arguing here and elsewhere, the audience which is viewing all this evidence of the far Left agenda of Obama &amp; Co. and of Obama’s unfitness for office–or not and, instead, has its collective eyes glued to Judge Judy, American Idol,  WWR , Jersey Shore, the Biggest Loser, etc. etc.–is not the audience of past generations, either in background, knowledge, temperament, or attention span, and deliberately so.</p>
<p>The Great Depression/WWII era audience of “ the Greatest Generation”&#8211;now passing from the scene–was given the pitch for Communism and only a very few–here and there–bought it.  </p>
<p>So, the Left’s idea was to:</p>
<p>First, “rebrand” and repackage its program as Progressivism/Liberalism, and concern for human rights, the environment, women’s rights,  fairness and equal justice, and all sorts of other good and high sounding things.</p>
<p>Second, to capture the educational establishment, and to change the content of education, so as to subvert and/or strip away all of the fundamental knowledge and those analytical  tools necessary for citizens to be able to play an effective part in the public debate and to understand the arguments and actions being taken in our democratic Republic–subjects like the histories of Greece and Rome, American history,  Rhetoric, Logic, Mathematics, Economics, Philosophy, and many other subjects, to Balkanize the students and divide them by race and culture, and to replace these subjects with  subverted, dumbed down versions of their former selves, propaganda, junk and piffle and, further,  to insist on the primacy of the Postmodern viewpoint, in which there are no standards, and nothing can be measured or is better than any other thing–and which makes the act of judgment not only useless, but an act of prejudice, and part of a power game to keep the underclass down.</p>
<p>Paralleling this subversion and occupation of education were similar very successful efforts waged against popular culture, religion, government and politics, law and business, relations between the sexes and the family, racial relations, community organizations, etc. etc. </p>
<p>So, I believe that many in the audience (I don’t know what percentage, but I believe it to be alarmingly large) that is witnessing all this today have very different interests, have far less knowledge and background, a very different attitude towards life, and stand in a far different place than their forbearers and, therefore, see things very differently–and, again, deliberately so. </p>
<p>Thus, the pitch is being made again today to a new audience, and whether they will see it for what it is, or  buy it or not is open to question.</p>
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		By: Bob from Virginia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parker wrote &quot;He has awaken a long sleeping force which he can not comprehend and blithely sloughs off as “bitter clingers”.&quot;

I have to disagree.  We&#039;ve noticed this before, nothing sticks to this President, he makes one bad or reprehensible move after another and it does not effect his 47% approval rating.  In the last month he has attacked freedom of religion, was caught plotting treason with the Russians, threatened the Supreme Court, taken credit for Bush&#039;s oil drilling programs, stopped the XL pipeline while boasting of the increased oil production under his administration, spent his kids on another expensive vacation, to Las Vegas, a very act he denounced a few years ago, had another budget proposal voted down by Congress , all this as the Moslem Brotherhood prepares to take over Egypt due to his incompetence, appeared more concerned over an Israeli attack on Iran than an Iranian bomb; and after all this he is still a viable candidate for re-election.   

If there is any &quot;sleeping force&quot; that is awakening they are taking their time about it.  Frankly, I do not know what to make of a public that seems mesmerized by this teflon President.  I will agree with you on one thing, the public does appear to be asleep.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parker wrote &#8220;He has awaken a long sleeping force which he can not comprehend and blithely sloughs off as “bitter clingers”.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to disagree.  We&#8217;ve noticed this before, nothing sticks to this President, he makes one bad or reprehensible move after another and it does not effect his 47% approval rating.  In the last month he has attacked freedom of religion, was caught plotting treason with the Russians, threatened the Supreme Court, taken credit for Bush&#8217;s oil drilling programs, stopped the XL pipeline while boasting of the increased oil production under his administration, spent his kids on another expensive vacation, to Las Vegas, a very act he denounced a few years ago, had another budget proposal voted down by Congress , all this as the Moslem Brotherhood prepares to take over Egypt due to his incompetence, appeared more concerned over an Israeli attack on Iran than an Iranian bomb; and after all this he is still a viable candidate for re-election.   </p>
<p>If there is any &#8220;sleeping force&#8221; that is awakening they are taking their time about it.  Frankly, I do not know what to make of a public that seems mesmerized by this teflon President.  I will agree with you on one thing, the public does appear to be asleep.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 01:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo says, &quot;Occam’s Beard: I disagree about Obama’s grasp of the law and his intelligence on that matter.&quot;

BHO knows that his base knows exactly zero about the Constitution or actually loathes the Constitution and the concept of a republic.  He is demagoguing the issue at hand and knows his MSM lackeys will follow his lead. However, he is ultimately a fool because he does not realize that there are unintended consequences to each and everyone of his actions.  He has awaken a long sleeping force which he can not comprehend and blithely sloughs off as &quot;bitter clingers&quot;.  So much for a Columbia and Harvard eduction.  Let the game begin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo says, &#8220;Occam’s Beard: I disagree about Obama’s grasp of the law and his intelligence on that matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>BHO knows that his base knows exactly zero about the Constitution or actually loathes the Constitution and the concept of a republic.  He is demagoguing the issue at hand and knows his MSM lackeys will follow his lead. However, he is ultimately a fool because he does not realize that there are unintended consequences to each and everyone of his actions.  He has awaken a long sleeping force which he can not comprehend and blithely sloughs off as &#8220;bitter clingers&#8221;.  So much for a Columbia and Harvard eduction.  Let the game begin.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 01:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;There are times when the only way to propperly handle a bully is to punch him in the nose.&quot;  -- KRB

The best way to properly handle a bully is to sneak up behind him and quietly take him down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are times when the only way to propperly handle a bully is to punch him in the nose.&#8221;  &#8212; KRB</p>
<p>The best way to properly handle a bully is to sneak up behind him and quietly take him down.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo: see &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2012/04/03/the-us-court-of-appeals-for-the-5th-circuit-has-a-little-question/#comment-338810&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this comment of mine&lt;/a&gt;.  FDR is the key for Obama.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolla Dalbo: see <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2012/04/03/the-us-court-of-appeals-for-the-5th-circuit-has-a-little-question/#comment-338810" rel="nofollow">this comment of mine</a>.  FDR is the key for Obama.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 19:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Driving around again to do some grocery shopping, and Rush is on the radio with the theory that Obama knows all too well about judicial review and Marbury vs. Madison, but that he is playing an entirely different game i.e. he is playing to the cheap seats, trying to agitate and organize, to stir up fear and anger ,and taking his message to the masses of basically unlettered and heavily propagandized but not knowledgeable or informed dummies churned out in increasing numbers by our schools, to the takers not the makers, who never heard of Marbury vs. Madison, 
won’t look it up, and simply don’t care about it. 
 
And Obama’s message, sure to be reported and reinforced and spread far and wide by the MSM--but not dissected or contradicted–is that this small group of unelected and therefore somehow illegitimate Supreme Court justices, the pawns of the Republicans, are going to, if allowed to get their way, rip their various benefits–Obamacare, welfare, WIC, AFDC, unemployment, etc., etc–right out of their hands, and the MSM will not counter this image.  

So, Obama does not care of more informed people know better, or if they think he has directly and unmistakably confirmed to them that he is an ignoramus, just so long as he gets his message of fear out to his base.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Driving around again to do some grocery shopping, and Rush is on the radio with the theory that Obama knows all too well about judicial review and Marbury vs. Madison, but that he is playing an entirely different game i.e. he is playing to the cheap seats, trying to agitate and organize, to stir up fear and anger ,and taking his message to the masses of basically unlettered and heavily propagandized but not knowledgeable or informed dummies churned out in increasing numbers by our schools, to the takers not the makers, who never heard of Marbury vs. Madison,<br />
won’t look it up, and simply don’t care about it. </p>
<p>And Obama’s message, sure to be reported and reinforced and spread far and wide by the MSM&#8211;but not dissected or contradicted–is that this small group of unelected and therefore somehow illegitimate Supreme Court justices, the pawns of the Republicans, are going to, if allowed to get their way, rip their various benefits–Obamacare, welfare, WIC, AFDC, unemployment, etc., etc–right out of their hands, and the MSM will not counter this image.  </p>
<p>So, Obama does not care of more informed people know better, or if they think he has directly and unmistakably confirmed to them that he is an ignoramus, just so long as he gets his message of fear out to his base.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[You just know that their written assignment will say &quot;Of course the judiciary can strike down an unconstitutional law, BUT...&quot; and then go on for three pages of b.s. about how in the case of ObamaCare, they kinda, sorta, really don&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You just know that their written assignment will say &#8220;Of course the judiciary can strike down an unconstitutional law, BUT&#8230;&#8221; and then go on for three pages of b.s. about how in the case of ObamaCare, they kinda, sorta, really don&#8217;t.</p>
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