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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/31/the-obamacare-case-challenging-the-supreme-courts-legitimacy/#comment-337709</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[In the Soviet Union, systematic political abuse of psychiatry took place. Soviet psychiatric hospitals were used by the authorities as prisons in order to isolate hundreds or thousands of political prisoners from the rest of society, discredit their ideas, and break them physically and mentally. This method was also employed against religious prisoners and most especially against well-educated former atheists who adopted a religion. In such cases their religious faith was determined to be a form of mental illness that needed to be cured.  Formerly highly classified extant documents from “Special file” of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union published after the dissolution of the Soviet Union demonstrate that the authorities of the country quite consciously used psychiatry as a tool to suppress dissent]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Soviet Union, systematic political abuse of psychiatry took place. Soviet psychiatric hospitals were used by the authorities as prisons in order to isolate hundreds or thousands of political prisoners from the rest of society, discredit their ideas, and break them physically and mentally. This method was also employed against religious prisoners and most especially against well-educated former atheists who adopted a religion. In such cases their religious faith was determined to be a form of mental illness that needed to be cured.  Formerly highly classified extant documents from “Special file” of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union published after the dissolution of the Soviet Union demonstrate that the authorities of the country quite consciously used psychiatry as a tool to suppress dissent</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[thats ok... 
we are well already on the way to the thing i said.

there isnt even the resistance a truck driver feels when a fly hits the front of his grill...

Kari Norgaard - she has the answer to global warming problems (And other medical issues in our society)... 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Comparing skepticism of man-made global warming to racist beliefs, an Oregon-based professor of sociology and environmental studies has labeled doubts about anthropogenic climate change a “sickness” for which individuals need to be “treated”.

Professor Kari Norgaard, who is currently appearing at the ‘Planet Under Pressure’ conference in London, has presented a paper in which she argues that “cultural resistance” to accepting the premise that humans are responsible for climate change “must be recognized and treated” as an aberrant sociological behavior.
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once they normalized deviancy
they then (As hegelians) make deviancy out of normal behavior.. 

and so, lysenkoism and its stuff is coming
among other things like, disagreeing wiht the leader, and having adorno personality, etc

notice her freudian slip.. 
treated not as a psychological problem

Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union

i am still trying to figure out if this will come before or after the after birth abortions and using ebola to cut population levels?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats ok&#8230;<br />
we are well already on the way to the thing i said.</p>
<p>there isnt even the resistance a truck driver feels when a fly hits the front of his grill&#8230;</p>
<p>Kari Norgaard &#8211; she has the answer to global warming problems (And other medical issues in our society)&#8230; </p>
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Comparing skepticism of man-made global warming to racist beliefs, an Oregon-based professor of sociology and environmental studies has labeled doubts about anthropogenic climate change a “sickness” for which individuals need to be “treated”.</p>
<p>Professor Kari Norgaard, who is currently appearing at the ‘Planet Under Pressure’ conference in London, has presented a paper in which she argues that “cultural resistance” to accepting the premise that humans are responsible for climate change “must be recognized and treated” as an aberrant sociological behavior.
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<p>once they normalized deviancy<br />
they then (As hegelians) make deviancy out of normal behavior.. </p>
<p>and so, lysenkoism and its stuff is coming<br />
among other things like, disagreeing wiht the leader, and having adorno personality, etc</p>
<p>notice her freudian slip..<br />
treated not as a psychological problem</p>
<p>Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union</a></p>
<p>i am still trying to figure out if this will come before or after the after birth abortions and using ebola to cut population levels?</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sonia Sotomayor: Clueless Fool or Demagogic Liar?&quot; - moonbattery

Yet Jason Lee gasps in amazement of how little she knows about the healthcare system she will vote to destroy:

&lt;blockquote&gt;“What percentage of the American people who took their son or daughter to an emergency room and that child was turned away because the parent didn’t have insurance,” asked Sotomayor, “…do you think there’s a large percentage of the American population that would stand for the death of that child – (who) had an allergic reaction and a simple shot would have saved the child?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How about Supreme Court Justices that are not ignorant of the laws that already exist and who dont get their legal news from propaganda?

nice minimum starting point, eh?

&quot;Since Sotomayor’s own brother is a doctor practicing in New York, it’s hard to believe she knows so little about medical care. Maybe she isn’t utterly clueless; the alternative is that she is a shameless demagogue lying to our faces. With progressives it is never easy to tell.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sonia Sotomayor: Clueless Fool or Demagogic Liar?&#8221; &#8211; moonbattery</p>
<p>Yet Jason Lee gasps in amazement of how little she knows about the healthcare system she will vote to destroy:</p>
<blockquote><p>“What percentage of the American people who took their son or daughter to an emergency room and that child was turned away because the parent didn’t have insurance,” asked Sotomayor, “…do you think there’s a large percentage of the American population that would stand for the death of that child – (who) had an allergic reaction and a simple shot would have saved the child?”</p></blockquote>
<p>How about Supreme Court Justices that are not ignorant of the laws that already exist and who dont get their legal news from propaganda?</p>
<p>nice minimum starting point, eh?</p>
<p>&#8220;Since Sotomayor’s own brother is a doctor practicing in New York, it’s hard to believe she knows so little about medical care. Maybe she isn’t utterly clueless; the alternative is that she is a shameless demagogue lying to our faces. With progressives it is never easy to tell.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 05:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I also think that, stupid as she may be, it’s entirely possible that Pelosi thinks the Constitution doesn’t matter.&quot;

Pelosi, like all leftists, abhors the Constitution.  The rule of law is their enemy. They pay no attention to the whirlwind their lust for power will create.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-nJR15e0F4  

Likewise, Robespierre ultimately met his fate at the guillotine.  He consumed himself. That is, in the long run, the fate of the left.  Meanwhile, billions suffer from their vanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I also think that, stupid as she may be, it’s entirely possible that Pelosi thinks the Constitution doesn’t matter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pelosi, like all leftists, abhors the Constitution.  The rule of law is their enemy. They pay no attention to the whirlwind their lust for power will create.   </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-nJR15e0F4" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-nJR15e0F4</a>  </p>
<p>Likewise, Robespierre ultimately met his fate at the guillotine.  He consumed himself. That is, in the long run, the fate of the left.  Meanwhile, billions suffer from their vanity.</p>
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		By: betsybounds		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/31/the-obamacare-case-challenging-the-supreme-courts-legitimacy/#comment-337608</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 23:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Texexec, with all due respect, our Constitution says nothing whatever about any beyond-average education, wisdom, or informational qualifications or requirements for holding any federal office. There are certain birth and residency requirements specified, but beyond that, candidates are not even required to be able to read and write.  People are of course free to speculate as to what unmentioned traits the Founders thought office-holders were SUPPOSED to possess.  The Federalist Papers may have some assumptions along these lines; however, the idea of office holders needing to be better educated, more well-informed, or wiser than other citizens grew slowly and began to be regarded as essential only during the rise of the Progressive movement, when some people fell for the idea that what we needed in complex times was a rule by certain &quot;experts.&quot;  I suggest THAT&#039;S how we got the self-selected elite intelligentsia who now think they alone possess the requisite credentials for ruling this country.  It has gained us little, and has arguably lost us a lot.   

I also think that, stupid as she may be, it&#039;s entirely possible that Pelosi thinks the Constitution doesn&#039;t matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texexec, with all due respect, our Constitution says nothing whatever about any beyond-average education, wisdom, or informational qualifications or requirements for holding any federal office. There are certain birth and residency requirements specified, but beyond that, candidates are not even required to be able to read and write.  People are of course free to speculate as to what unmentioned traits the Founders thought office-holders were SUPPOSED to possess.  The Federalist Papers may have some assumptions along these lines; however, the idea of office holders needing to be better educated, more well-informed, or wiser than other citizens grew slowly and began to be regarded as essential only during the rise of the Progressive movement, when some people fell for the idea that what we needed in complex times was a rule by certain &#8220;experts.&#8221;  I suggest THAT&#8217;S how we got the self-selected elite intelligentsia who now think they alone possess the requisite credentials for ruling this country.  It has gained us little, and has arguably lost us a lot.   </p>
<p>I also think that, stupid as she may be, it&#8217;s entirely possible that Pelosi thinks the Constitution doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s true that the SCOTUS members should have sound and solid legal educations and knowledge, and we’d like all judicial ideologies to come tempered with humility and leavened with ordinary (not common) understanding. And balance and moderate give-and-take are desirable. But what happens when you’re faced with the reality of a patient and dedicated group engaged in a multi-generation, long-march revolution towards socialist/communist tyranny?&quot;

More than one S Justice has noted that it would be better to make rulings based upon international, not American, law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s true that the SCOTUS members should have sound and solid legal educations and knowledge, and we’d like all judicial ideologies to come tempered with humility and leavened with ordinary (not common) understanding. And balance and moderate give-and-take are desirable. But what happens when you’re faced with the reality of a patient and dedicated group engaged in a multi-generation, long-march revolution towards socialist/communist tyranny?&#8221;</p>
<p>More than one S Justice has noted that it would be better to make rulings based upon international, not American, law.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The illigitimacy gig is also an excuse for refusing to comply with any decision the Left disagrees with.  So much for their respect for the rule of law; but we already knew that, didn&#039;t we?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The illigitimacy gig is also an excuse for refusing to comply with any decision the Left disagrees with.  So much for their respect for the rule of law; but we already knew that, didn&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the illegitimacy gig is their realization that the appointments they just made didn&#039;t buy them (automatically) what they wanted....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the illegitimacy gig is their realization that the appointments they just made didn&#8217;t buy them (automatically) what they wanted&#8230;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please allow me to submit the following thought, related to, but not directly on-topic to this post:

IMO this latest progressively manufactured nontroversy is another example of the liberal mindset of the past 90 years coming apart at the seams.  Brien Farley refers to it as &quot;photodegradation&quot; in his American Thinker Essay, 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/light_of_liberty_less_than_flattering_to_progressivism.html

and I think his thoughts are spot on.  The 24/7 news cycle coupled with the internet means that it becomes increasingly impossible to say one thing while doing another (the Left&#039;s preferred methodology, just look at Obama).

When presented with the reality of their positions in the cold light of day, the left&#039;s knee-jerk reaction is to demean the opposition opinion in an attempt to shoot the messenger, thus the thuggish essay of Bob Shrum linked by Vanderleun above (&quot;Nice Court You Have There&quot;).

The tumult we experience today is, IMO, partly because this is the way it always has been (just hidden from view in the past more controlled media circumstances) but also the fact that we are seeing the left writhing in the throes of informational and opinion daylight that is being directed upon it.  This is not unlike the classic Christopher Lee Dracula turning to dust with the first rays of the morning sun, and they will not dissolve quietly; who would? (Pardon the melodrama).

Keep the good fight; the tumult means that we are winning even if only one local battle at a time; if the Left is winning, they condescend rather than vitriolicly protest.   Don&#039;t back-down and, as texexec notes above:

&quot;guide it back into the right direction . . .  vote for Republicans for President and Congress in November, 2012.

Plus, contribute to them and work for them as hard as you can.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please allow me to submit the following thought, related to, but not directly on-topic to this post:</p>
<p>IMO this latest progressively manufactured nontroversy is another example of the liberal mindset of the past 90 years coming apart at the seams.  Brien Farley refers to it as &#8220;photodegradation&#8221; in his American Thinker Essay, </p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/light_of_liberty_less_than_flattering_to_progressivism.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/04/light_of_liberty_less_than_flattering_to_progressivism.html</a></p>
<p>and I think his thoughts are spot on.  The 24/7 news cycle coupled with the internet means that it becomes increasingly impossible to say one thing while doing another (the Left&#8217;s preferred methodology, just look at Obama).</p>
<p>When presented with the reality of their positions in the cold light of day, the left&#8217;s knee-jerk reaction is to demean the opposition opinion in an attempt to shoot the messenger, thus the thuggish essay of Bob Shrum linked by Vanderleun above (&#8220;Nice Court You Have There&#8221;).</p>
<p>The tumult we experience today is, IMO, partly because this is the way it always has been (just hidden from view in the past more controlled media circumstances) but also the fact that we are seeing the left writhing in the throes of informational and opinion daylight that is being directed upon it.  This is not unlike the classic Christopher Lee Dracula turning to dust with the first rays of the morning sun, and they will not dissolve quietly; who would? (Pardon the melodrama).</p>
<p>Keep the good fight; the tumult means that we are winning even if only one local battle at a time; if the Left is winning, they condescend rather than vitriolicly protest.   Don&#8217;t back-down and, as texexec notes above:</p>
<p>&#8220;guide it back into the right direction . . .  vote for Republicans for President and Congress in November, 2012.</p>
<p>Plus, contribute to them and work for them as hard as you can.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 12:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[betsybounds:

I doubt Pelosi gave all that much thought.  She&#039;s dumb as fence post but crafty as hell.  All she really understands is winning and power.

Concerning the “better informed, wiser, and more educated than the average person.”  issue, I DID say that our founders structured our government in such a way that it was putting &quot;decisions in the hands of people who are SUPPOSED to be better informed, wiser, and more educated than the average person.&quot;  (New emphasis mine.)

I didn&#039;t say it has actually worked out that way, especially in recent years.

Still it&#039;s the best system of government I know about and the way to guide it back into the right direction is to vote for Republicans for President and Congress in November, 2012.

Plus, contribute to them and work for them as hard as you can.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>betsybounds:</p>
<p>I doubt Pelosi gave all that much thought.  She&#8217;s dumb as fence post but crafty as hell.  All she really understands is winning and power.</p>
<p>Concerning the “better informed, wiser, and more educated than the average person.”  issue, I DID say that our founders structured our government in such a way that it was putting &#8220;decisions in the hands of people who are SUPPOSED to be better informed, wiser, and more educated than the average person.&#8221;  (New emphasis mine.)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say it has actually worked out that way, especially in recent years.</p>
<p>Still it&#8217;s the best system of government I know about and the way to guide it back into the right direction is to vote for Republicans for President and Congress in November, 2012.</p>
<p>Plus, contribute to them and work for them as hard as you can.</p>
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