Comments on: The case of Sugar v. Corn Syrup

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 17:04:47 +0000

The reason why I often don’t put all my cards on the table is because I know that in the future, I can just reference the Status quo, which will have changed because the previous Status Quo was Retardedly Wrong. As usual.

http://neoneocon.com/2016/01/04/antibiotics-and-weight-gain/#comment-951413

By: JuliB

JuliB — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:33:44 +0000

To follow on to one of Neo’s points, I will never forgive Hershey’s for making the plain chocolate syrup with corn syrup. It changed the product entirely, and not for the better.

By: foxmarks

foxmarks — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:04:12 +0000

OB: You appear to be blinded by science. 🙂 I mean that you are only looking at the subset of facts that you like. You’re hand-waving away the biologic processes that turn on milligrams of differences in chemical composition.

It’s kind of like the “food miles” argument. You say the grape at the table is the same, no matter where it was grown. A more-comprehensive view accounts for *how* the grape got to the table, and any health impacts of the entire process of getting a grape to the table.

By: LAG

LAG — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 23:23:43 +0000

Interesting discussion that seems to confirm my uninformed preconceived notions. I’ll continue to indulge in the occasional candy bar.

There is another aspect no one seems to have covered. I was just watching the documentary, THEM! and apparently giant ants like sugar, without distinguishing the formulation, so I recommend moving away from any large stores of sweets in your neighborhood.

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:35:08 +0000

By: Occam's Beard

Occam's Beard — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:47:01 +0000

One last shot. The 26 letters used in a Shakespeare sonnet are the same ones used in Mein Kampf. The two pieces differ in the sequence of letters, but not in the nature of the letters themselves. If one took each document and broke it down to its constituent letters, one could not tell from which document those letters came. That's the point.

By: Occam's Beard

Occam's Beard — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:31:59 +0000

One other thing, HFCS is said to be able to increase the shelf life of products. How is it able to do that if it is just a mixture of sucrose and fructose?

Because the witch doctor chants over it at the factory.

By: Occam's Beard

Occam's Beard — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:30:01 +0000

OB waves away the problem that the wharf rat protein matrix leads to production of different and perhaps more waste than wagyu protein.

No, it doesn’t. Not for protein from the same organ in each case (e.g., muscle).

All proteins comprise the same 20 amino acids, in varying proportions and sequences, but the same constituent amino acids. The stomach, and then the small intestine, see to it that any protein ingested is broken down into those amino acids. Anything that cannot be so hydrolyzed is said to be “indigestible,” and is ultimately turned over to the local sewage treatment plant, along with the detritus from the intestinal bacterial flora.

By: Occam's Beard

Occam's Beard — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:23:07 +0000

The question is how much fructose can be ingested without negatively impacting other systems. Let me try again. We are comparing ingesting 10 g of sucrose (5 g each of glucose and fructose, with the caveat above re masses). with ingesting 10 g of high fructose corn syrup (4.5 g of glucose, 5.5 g of fructose, per Y's comment above). OK? We're not talking about absolute levels of carbohydrates consumed, e.g., comparing ingestion of 10 g of a given carbohydrate with 100 g. That's a different question, and one on which we agree. We're talking about ingesting 10 g each of sucrose and high fructose corn syrup, because the question before the house is whether replacing the former with the latter leads to deleterious effects.

By: John

John — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:18:02 +0000

I grew up in the south and can say without a doubt that I don’t want high-fructose corn syrup in my sweet tea.