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		By: ObloodyHell		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/19/the-myth-of-the-heavy-ish-marilyn-monroe/#comment-2624625</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Long after: 

I would take issue with Some Like It Hot as being her &quot;most famous role&quot;, first, given that it&#039;s actually a Jack Lemmon/Tony Curtis vehicle, with Marilyn in a significant but secondary role.

No, I assert to you, Neo, that her most famous roles is virtually certainly The Seven Year Itch. The scene in it over the subway grate is so iconic it&#039;s been redone, spoofed, and homaged more times than you can count.

As to her weight -- I think she was quite normal for the time, when 36-24-36 was considered the ideal figure. Today, a bit more towards &quot;Barbie&quot; is classed as ideal (yes, &quot;towards&quot; Barbie... Barbie is absurd) -- rib cage anywhere from 34-38, with a larger cup making the size, a smaller waist, with 22 closer to ideal, and I think, unless you&#039;re the &quot;big booty&quot; fan, 34 is the ideal hip measurement.

Monroe was a bit steatopygious by today&#039;s standards, but perfectly fine for those times. Women weren&#039;t generally expected to be as lean, then, as today, either.

Forward posted to the current topic, as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long after: </p>
<p>I would take issue with Some Like It Hot as being her &#8220;most famous role&#8221;, first, given that it&#8217;s actually a Jack Lemmon/Tony Curtis vehicle, with Marilyn in a significant but secondary role.</p>
<p>No, I assert to you, Neo, that her most famous roles is virtually certainly The Seven Year Itch. The scene in it over the subway grate is so iconic it&#8217;s been redone, spoofed, and homaged more times than you can count.</p>
<p>As to her weight &#8212; I think she was quite normal for the time, when 36-24-36 was considered the ideal figure. Today, a bit more towards &#8220;Barbie&#8221; is classed as ideal (yes, &#8220;towards&#8221; Barbie&#8230; Barbie is absurd) &#8212; rib cage anywhere from 34-38, with a larger cup making the size, a smaller waist, with 22 closer to ideal, and I think, unless you&#8217;re the &#8220;big booty&#8221; fan, 34 is the ideal hip measurement.</p>
<p>Monroe was a bit steatopygious by today&#8217;s standards, but perfectly fine for those times. Women weren&#8217;t generally expected to be as lean, then, as today, either.</p>
<p>Forward posted to the current topic, as well.</p>
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		By: Phillip Mundie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 04:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: foxmarks		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Round face, thick neck, beginnings of an extra chin.

Her body doesn’t look lithe or graceful, so I see how her plumpness above the shoulders might lead to claims of heaviness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Round face, thick neck, beginnings of an extra chin.</p>
<p>Her body doesn’t look lithe or graceful, so I see how her plumpness above the shoulders might lead to claims of heaviness.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/19/the-myth-of-the-heavy-ish-marilyn-monroe/#comment-333931</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[sotto voce: that&#039;s exactly what one journalist did.  The link in my first paragraph on &quot;see this, for example&quot; leads to an article that has a link in it that used to lead to another article which, unfortunately, has disappeared from the web.  But it was by a woman who tried on some of Monroe&#039;s clothes and was astounded at how very tiny they were.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sotto voce: that&#8217;s exactly what one journalist did.  The link in my first paragraph on &#8220;see this, for example&#8221; leads to an article that has a link in it that used to lead to another article which, unfortunately, has disappeared from the web.  But it was by a woman who tried on some of Monroe&#8217;s clothes and was astounded at how very tiny they were.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who could forget the porthole scene in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes?

Size 16 my eye.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who could forget the porthole scene in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes?</p>
<p>Size 16 my eye.</p>
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		By: sotto voce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s an easy way to resolve the size 16 rumor. Studios archived their stars&#039; costumes and I&#039;m sure many of Marilyn&#039;s still exist. I seem to remember reading that the sheer gown she wore when she famously sang &quot;Happy Birthday, Mr. President&quot; sold for over a million dollars at auction. That dress was so form-fitting that it should be easy to determine Marilyn&#039;s size (or at least her size at that particular time, which was just a few months before she died).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an easy way to resolve the size 16 rumor. Studios archived their stars&#8217; costumes and I&#8217;m sure many of Marilyn&#8217;s still exist. I seem to remember reading that the sheer gown she wore when she famously sang &#8220;Happy Birthday, Mr. President&#8221; sold for over a million dollars at auction. That dress was so form-fitting that it should be easy to determine Marilyn&#8217;s size (or at least her size at that particular time, which was just a few months before she died).</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Will: sorry, but you are wrong---or perhaps I don&#039;t get what you mean by the word &quot;plenty.&quot;  If you look around the world, no doubt there are quite a few women with figures like Marilyn, so in the absolute sense there probably are &quot;plenty&quot; of them.  But in terms of a percentage of the female population, it&#039;s very very very low.  And it has little to do with clothing, because a great deal of Marilyn&#039;s fame rested on her being photographed in skimpy or no clothing at all.  And therefore it was not just artful clothing that did the trick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will: sorry, but you are wrong&#8212;or perhaps I don&#8217;t get what you mean by the word &#8220;plenty.&#8221;  If you look around the world, no doubt there are quite a few women with figures like Marilyn, so in the absolute sense there probably are &#8220;plenty&#8221; of them.  But in terms of a percentage of the female population, it&#8217;s very very very low.  And it has little to do with clothing, because a great deal of Marilyn&#8217;s fame rested on her being photographed in skimpy or no clothing at all.  And therefore it was not just artful clothing that did the trick.</p>
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		By: Will		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was all in the packaging. Proper under garments and the tailoring of clothing to enhance the female figure is the trick. Plenty of women we all see everyday, celebrity and otherwise, dressed in the same manner would have a very similar effect. 

Yet another crime of the class of &#039;68]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was all in the packaging. Proper under garments and the tailoring of clothing to enhance the female figure is the trick. Plenty of women we all see everyday, celebrity and otherwise, dressed in the same manner would have a very similar effect. </p>
<p>Yet another crime of the class of &#8217;68</p>
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		By: Parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 05:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Women with a moderate amount of flesh are far more appealing than those skinny little things with pouty lips.  Marilynn was gorgeous.

http://tinyurl.com/8673r4r

This gal has some flesh on the bone and she has a .45 ACP tucked under the pillow, my kind of woman.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women with a moderate amount of flesh are far more appealing than those skinny little things with pouty lips.  Marilynn was gorgeous.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/8673r4r" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/8673r4r</a></p>
<p>This gal has some flesh on the bone and she has a .45 ACP tucked under the pillow, my kind of woman.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 04:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Its hip to waist ratio... while women think its being rail thin. Ms monroe had the same ratio as 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Some researchers have found that the waist-hip ratio (WHR) is a significant measure of female attractiveness. Women with a 0.7 WHR are usually rated as more attractive by men from Indo-European cultures

Beauty icons such as Kelly Brook (0.70), Jessica Alba (0.70), Marilyn Monroe (0.63), Salma Hayek (0.67), Sophia Loren (0.63), Raquel Welch (0.64), Bo Derek (0.65), Jayne Mansfield (0.59), Elizabeth Taylor (0.58) and Brigitte Bardot (0.57) typically have ratios close to 0.6, even though they have different weights and heights. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

A WHR of 0.7 for women and 0.9 for men has been shown to correlate strongly with general health and fertility. Women within the 0.7 range have optimal levels of estrogen and are less susceptible to major diseases such as diabetes, cardiovascular disorders and ovarian cancers. Men with WHRs around 0.9, similarly, have been shown to be more healthy and fertile with less prostate cancer and testicular cancer.

Even in ancient civilizations globally, female representations are most often in the 0.6-0.7 range for WHR, suggesting a preference towards lower WHR.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its hip to waist ratio&#8230; while women think its being rail thin. Ms monroe had the same ratio as </p>
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Some researchers have found that the waist-hip ratio (WHR) is a significant measure of female attractiveness. Women with a 0.7 WHR are usually rated as more attractive by men from Indo-European cultures</p>
<p>Beauty icons such as Kelly Brook (0.70), Jessica Alba (0.70), Marilyn Monroe (0.63), Salma Hayek (0.67), Sophia Loren (0.63), Raquel Welch (0.64), Bo Derek (0.65), Jayne Mansfield (0.59), Elizabeth Taylor (0.58) and Brigitte Bardot (0.57) typically have ratios close to 0.6, even though they have different weights and heights. </p></blockquote>
<p>A WHR of 0.7 for women and 0.9 for men has been shown to correlate strongly with general health and fertility. Women within the 0.7 range have optimal levels of estrogen and are less susceptible to major diseases such as diabetes, cardiovascular disorders and ovarian cancers. Men with WHRs around 0.9, similarly, have been shown to be more healthy and fertile with less prostate cancer and testicular cancer.</p>
<p>Even in ancient civilizations globally, female representations are most often in the 0.6-0.7 range for WHR, suggesting a preference towards lower WHR.</p>
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