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		By: Zena Galliher		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/15/marilyn-hagerty-the-olive-garden-and-me/#comment-506033</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zena Galliher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great blog!  Sorry to change the subject, but, since Nashville is getting a lot of press lately, I’m looking for a great Nashville sushi restaurant or Japanese restaurant. Have you heard of any good ones?  There’s a new one called Nomzilla Sushi Et Cetera, but very few reviews. Here’s the address of this new Nashville Sushi Restaurant, 1201 Villa Place #101 Nashville, TN 37212 - (615) 268-1424. Let me know your thoughts!  Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog!  Sorry to change the subject, but, since Nashville is getting a lot of press lately, I’m looking for a great Nashville sushi restaurant or Japanese restaurant. Have you heard of any good ones?  There’s a new one called Nomzilla Sushi Et Cetera, but very few reviews. Here’s the address of this new Nashville Sushi Restaurant, 1201 Villa Place #101 Nashville, TN 37212 &#8211; (615) 268-1424. Let me know your thoughts!  Thanks!</p>
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		By: Sam L.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/15/marilyn-hagerty-the-olive-garden-and-me/#comment-332710</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Middle Class&quot; is now an epithet for some folks.  Ranks with &quot;plebeian&quot;, and &quot;popular&quot;--just not up to the speakers&#039; refined tastes.  See the same thing in jazz; popular artists are looked down upon.  (I hear they cry all the way to the bank.)  Some folks just have to be special--better than the rest of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Middle Class&#8221; is now an epithet for some folks.  Ranks with &#8220;plebeian&#8221;, and &#8220;popular&#8221;&#8211;just not up to the speakers&#8217; refined tastes.  See the same thing in jazz; popular artists are looked down upon.  (I hear they cry all the way to the bank.)  Some folks just have to be special&#8211;better than the rest of us.</p>
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		By: John F. MacMichael		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/15/marilyn-hagerty-the-olive-garden-and-me/#comment-332685</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John F. MacMichael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a fine and often crossed line between appreciating good food and being a food obsessed snob.  Living here in the good grey city of Portland, OR, I have a chance to observe this on a regular basis.

Some of you may have seen the famous episode of the tv show &quot;Portlandia&quot; where the hip young couple starts cross examining their waitress about the heritage and provenance of the chicken they are about to order for dinner.  The waitress trumps them by producing a sheaf of documents and announcing: &quot;His name was Colin.  Here are his papers.&quot;

This was funny not because it was over the top ridiculous but because it was a delicately ironic exaggeration of what actually goes on in restaraunts around here.

If they had a scene where famous local chefs got into a street brawl with each other because of a squabble over whether the heritage pig they had just cooked for a charity event was authentically local (and wound up being Tasered by police), most would think that was an unbelievable satire.  But it actually happened here about a year ago.

Me, I try to enjoy my meals while keeping in mind that good food is a blessing, not an idol.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a fine and often crossed line between appreciating good food and being a food obsessed snob.  Living here in the good grey city of Portland, OR, I have a chance to observe this on a regular basis.</p>
<p>Some of you may have seen the famous episode of the tv show &#8220;Portlandia&#8221; where the hip young couple starts cross examining their waitress about the heritage and provenance of the chicken they are about to order for dinner.  The waitress trumps them by producing a sheaf of documents and announcing: &#8220;His name was Colin.  Here are his papers.&#8221;</p>
<p>This was funny not because it was over the top ridiculous but because it was a delicately ironic exaggeration of what actually goes on in restaraunts around here.</p>
<p>If they had a scene where famous local chefs got into a street brawl with each other because of a squabble over whether the heritage pig they had just cooked for a charity event was authentically local (and wound up being Tasered by police), most would think that was an unbelievable satire.  But it actually happened here about a year ago.</p>
<p>Me, I try to enjoy my meals while keeping in mind that good food is a blessing, not an idol.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 02:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[holmes

Read some time ago-can&#039;t recall author--a history of the middle class chasing the upper class and the upper class trying to stay ahead in all matters; fashion, education, accent, hobbies.
I believe the nouveau rich at the end of the nineteenth century in the US, the women anyway, changed clothes five times a day.  It was because the upper-mids could afford to do it three times a day.
Let&#039;em play pin the tail, or whatever.  Not my problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holmes</p>
<p>Read some time ago-can&#8217;t recall author&#8211;a history of the middle class chasing the upper class and the upper class trying to stay ahead in all matters; fashion, education, accent, hobbies.<br />
I believe the nouveau rich at the end of the nineteenth century in the US, the women anyway, changed clothes five times a day.  It was because the upper-mids could afford to do it three times a day.<br />
Let&#8217;em play pin the tail, or whatever.  Not my problem.</p>
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		By: Commenter formerly know as roc scssrs		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/15/marilyn-hagerty-the-olive-garden-and-me/#comment-332176</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Commenter formerly know as roc scssrs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The snobs just never learn they&#039;re being rolled.  The whole phenomenon is nicely covered in &quot;Nation of Rebels: Why Counterculture Became Consumer Culture&quot; by Joseph Heath.

Olive Garden I&#039;ve never liked, but Appleby&#039;s suits me just fine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The snobs just never learn they&#8217;re being rolled.  The whole phenomenon is nicely covered in &#8220;Nation of Rebels: Why Counterculture Became Consumer Culture&#8221; by Joseph Heath.</p>
<p>Olive Garden I&#8217;ve never liked, but Appleby&#8217;s suits me just fine.</p>
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		By: Janet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Janet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ditto.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto.</p>
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		By: pst314		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;pst314: of course nothing’s wrong with restaurants that serve food that tastes good and has widespread appeal–except…(1) when the food actually doesn’t taste very good... (2) or portions so huge that they foster extreme overweight.&quot;

You&#039;ll get no argument from me. My objections are to the snobs. There&#039;s a lot of that going around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;pst314: of course nothing’s wrong with restaurants that serve food that tastes good and has widespread appeal–except…(1) when the food actually doesn’t taste very good&#8230; (2) or portions so huge that they foster extreme overweight.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll get no argument from me. My objections are to the snobs. There&#8217;s a lot of that going around.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/15/marilyn-hagerty-the-olive-garden-and-me/#comment-332114</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Janet and pst314: of course nothing&#039;s wrong with restaurants that serve food that tastes good and has widespread appeal---except...

(1) when the food actually doesn&#039;t taste very good, which is true (IMHO) for quite a few fast-food and/or chain restaurants; and

(2) when the food is really really really fatty and/or way too salty and or portions so huge that they foster extreme overweight.

Even then, as a mild libertarian (is that an oxymoron?) I have no problem with such places existing and people choosing to go to them.  But &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; have a problem with the food there when I go there, and I don&#039;t go there if I can help it, and if I find myself there I usually do not like whatever it is that I order.  

I like food that has good taste.  That&#039;s why, despite my liking for some things at the Olive Garden, when I go there I tend to stick to those couple of things I know I like because every single time I&#039;ve branched out (which is actually many times) and ordered something else I have regretted it because it&#039;s just not tasty to me.  

That said, my favorite restaurants tend to not be chains, but they also tend not to be expensive gourmet places (although take me to one of those and believe me, I&#039;ll find plenty to like!).  My favorites are almost always ethnic places that are very reasonable but very tasty.  Especially favored by me are many different kinds of Asian food, and almost any Middle Eastern food.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet and pst314: of course nothing&#8217;s wrong with restaurants that serve food that tastes good and has widespread appeal&#8212;except&#8230;</p>
<p>(1) when the food actually doesn&#8217;t taste very good, which is true (IMHO) for quite a few fast-food and/or chain restaurants; and</p>
<p>(2) when the food is really really really fatty and/or way too salty and or portions so huge that they foster extreme overweight.</p>
<p>Even then, as a mild libertarian (is that an oxymoron?) I have no problem with such places existing and people choosing to go to them.  But <i>I</i> have a problem with the food there when I go there, and I don&#8217;t go there if I can help it, and if I find myself there I usually do not like whatever it is that I order.  </p>
<p>I like food that has good taste.  That&#8217;s why, despite my liking for some things at the Olive Garden, when I go there I tend to stick to those couple of things I know I like because every single time I&#8217;ve branched out (which is actually many times) and ordered something else I have regretted it because it&#8217;s just not tasty to me.  </p>
<p>That said, my favorite restaurants tend to not be chains, but they also tend not to be expensive gourmet places (although take me to one of those and believe me, I&#8217;ll find plenty to like!).  My favorites are almost always ethnic places that are very reasonable but very tasty.  Especially favored by me are many different kinds of Asian food, and almost any Middle Eastern food.</p>
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		By: Kurt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Smock Puppet&#039;s comments remind me of a few things.  With regard to American egg rolls not being the same as actual Chinese egg rolls, I have a friend who grew up in Michigan and whose parents are from Taiwan.  Although this friend eats lots of fast food of all varieties, one time we were looking at Chinese restaurants, and she refused to go into a particular one because she saw too many &quot;American Chinese&quot; dishes (i.e., sweet and sour chicken, etc.) on the menu.    This struck me as rather silly because even if it wasn&#039;t &quot;authentic&quot; Chinese, it still might be good food.  After all, most food in American Chinese restaurants is nowhere near authentic, as demonstrated by &lt;a href=&quot;http://thesearchforgeneraltso.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Search for General Tso&lt;/a&gt;.

Regarding the comment that the &quot;best places to eat are generally holes in the wall,&quot; that certainly seems to be the case with what an NPR story I heard this morning called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/2012/03/16/148737187/cameras-follow-worlds-greatest-sushi-chef&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the world&#039;s greatest sushi restaurant.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;  It&#039;s a ten-seat Sushi bar in a Tokyo subway station.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smock Puppet&#8217;s comments remind me of a few things.  With regard to American egg rolls not being the same as actual Chinese egg rolls, I have a friend who grew up in Michigan and whose parents are from Taiwan.  Although this friend eats lots of fast food of all varieties, one time we were looking at Chinese restaurants, and she refused to go into a particular one because she saw too many &#8220;American Chinese&#8221; dishes (i.e., sweet and sour chicken, etc.) on the menu.    This struck me as rather silly because even if it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;authentic&#8221; Chinese, it still might be good food.  After all, most food in American Chinese restaurants is nowhere near authentic, as demonstrated by <a href="http://thesearchforgeneraltso.com/" rel="nofollow">The Search for General Tso</a>.</p>
<p>Regarding the comment that the &#8220;best places to eat are generally holes in the wall,&#8221; that certainly seems to be the case with what an NPR story I heard this morning called <a href="http://www.npr.org/2012/03/16/148737187/cameras-follow-worlds-greatest-sushi-chef" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the world&#8217;s greatest sushi restaurant.&#8221;</a>  It&#8217;s a ten-seat Sushi bar in a Tokyo subway station.</p>
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		By: waltj		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve eaten at my share of high-end restaurants, generally in foreign countries, and generally on the company&#039;s dime (or rupiah, baht, or whatever), and have to say that excessive snobbery in food isn&#039;t a strictly American phenomenon.  One particular place in Bangkok seemed especially infected (it&#039;s gone now, can&#039;t remember its name, but it&#039;s clear the diners had their say).  Nothing in there tasted especially good, the portions were smaller than my smallest cat eats at a feeding, and the combination of ingredients was just bizarre.  But this place was described in one of the Bangkok magazines as &quot;edgy&quot; and &quot;bold&quot;.  Spare me.  I&#039;d rather have &quot;tasty&quot; and &quot;mouth-watering&quot;.  I guess that&#039;s too pedestrian for the elitists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve eaten at my share of high-end restaurants, generally in foreign countries, and generally on the company&#8217;s dime (or rupiah, baht, or whatever), and have to say that excessive snobbery in food isn&#8217;t a strictly American phenomenon.  One particular place in Bangkok seemed especially infected (it&#8217;s gone now, can&#8217;t remember its name, but it&#8217;s clear the diners had their say).  Nothing in there tasted especially good, the portions were smaller than my smallest cat eats at a feeding, and the combination of ingredients was just bizarre.  But this place was described in one of the Bangkok magazines as &#8220;edgy&#8221; and &#8220;bold&#8221;.  Spare me.  I&#8217;d rather have &#8220;tasty&#8221; and &#8220;mouth-watering&#8221;.  I guess that&#8217;s too pedestrian for the elitists.</p>
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