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		By: BurkeanBadger		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/06/and-yet-another-changer-daniel-knauf/#comment-327561</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[My political drift came years after 9/11. However, I do remember a couple of reactions which unnerved me more than a little that morning. I was in my last semester of college (on the five year plan. :-)). I heard snippets of news about the attack on the radio as I drove to campus. When I got to school, one of my closest friends approached me and said:

&quot;What a great day this is!&quot;. (No, that&#039;s not paraphrasing).

Now he was being a little tongue in cheek. And of course he did not mean that people being murdered was, in and of itself, a great thing. He meant the standard lefty claptrap: At long last, disgusting American imperialism is taking a hit, at long last the oppressed innocent victims of the amoral, rapacious military industrial complex had struck back. Finally, some &quot;justice&quot; in the world. And if innocent people died, well, that&#039;s just collateral damage. 

To be fair, I should note he pulled back a bit by the end of the day. Although I do remember both of us being interviewed by a local reporter who was getting reactions from people on the street that night: We both agreed that any military action would be completely immoral and counterproductive. Rather, this should be handled by the International Court of Justice. 

The second unnerving comment came later that morning, when both towers had fallen and Bush was on t.v. A bunch of us were watching it in our department&#039;s seminar room. One of the professors walked in, actually a fellow who was my adviser, who I respect greatly and still keep in touch with. His reaction:

&quot;I can&#039;t imagine this jackass will have anything constructive to say...&quot; (Also not a paraphrase)

Now of course, I detested Bush as much as any leftist back then. But at that moment, I was more than willing to give him the benefit of any doubt. Those two reactions really struck a chord with me. They were part of many, many little ripples over the years which very slowly nudged me to the right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My political drift came years after 9/11. However, I do remember a couple of reactions which unnerved me more than a little that morning. I was in my last semester of college (on the five year plan. :-)). I heard snippets of news about the attack on the radio as I drove to campus. When I got to school, one of my closest friends approached me and said:</p>
<p>&#8220;What a great day this is!&#8221;. (No, that&#8217;s not paraphrasing).</p>
<p>Now he was being a little tongue in cheek. And of course he did not mean that people being murdered was, in and of itself, a great thing. He meant the standard lefty claptrap: At long last, disgusting American imperialism is taking a hit, at long last the oppressed innocent victims of the amoral, rapacious military industrial complex had struck back. Finally, some &#8220;justice&#8221; in the world. And if innocent people died, well, that&#8217;s just collateral damage. </p>
<p>To be fair, I should note he pulled back a bit by the end of the day. Although I do remember both of us being interviewed by a local reporter who was getting reactions from people on the street that night: We both agreed that any military action would be completely immoral and counterproductive. Rather, this should be handled by the International Court of Justice. </p>
<p>The second unnerving comment came later that morning, when both towers had fallen and Bush was on t.v. A bunch of us were watching it in our department&#8217;s seminar room. One of the professors walked in, actually a fellow who was my adviser, who I respect greatly and still keep in touch with. His reaction:</p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t imagine this jackass will have anything constructive to say&#8230;&#8221; (Also not a paraphrase)</p>
<p>Now of course, I detested Bush as much as any leftist back then. But at that moment, I was more than willing to give him the benefit of any doubt. Those two reactions really struck a chord with me. They were part of many, many little ripples over the years which very slowly nudged me to the right.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/03/06/and-yet-another-changer-daniel-knauf/#comment-327205</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 16:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Leftist alliance, which includes Democrats, the homosexual lobby, feminists on the war path against human nature, as well as Planned Parenthood, racists, and eugenicists. Not to mention the Global Warming Cult, criminals corrupt murderers like Ted Kennedy, and so on and so forth.

There is no way in Hades that the Leftist alliance could hold itself together if it was a &quot;bottom up organization&quot;. So the people at the bottom, the cannon fodder like OWS, have no idea who is using them or for what. Bernadine Dohr and her ilk are what controls OWS. The Democrats like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton are the New Slavemasters of the black community in America, and the blacks have no effing clue who their real masters are. Cause if they did... they wouldn&#039;t make very good slave cannonfodder. They wouldn&#039;t vote 95 or 98% Democrat, when even Saddam had troubles getting 99% of the vote.

Know your enemy. For it matters, greatly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Leftist alliance, which includes Democrats, the homosexual lobby, feminists on the war path against human nature, as well as Planned Parenthood, racists, and eugenicists. Not to mention the Global Warming Cult, criminals corrupt murderers like Ted Kennedy, and so on and so forth.</p>
<p>There is no way in Hades that the Leftist alliance could hold itself together if it was a &#8220;bottom up organization&#8221;. So the people at the bottom, the cannon fodder like OWS, have no idea who is using them or for what. Bernadine Dohr and her ilk are what controls OWS. The Democrats like Jesse Jackson and Sharpton are the New Slavemasters of the black community in America, and the blacks have no effing clue who their real masters are. Cause if they did&#8230; they wouldn&#8217;t make very good slave cannonfodder. They wouldn&#8217;t vote 95 or 98% Democrat, when even Saddam had troubles getting 99% of the vote.</p>
<p>Know your enemy. For it matters, greatly.</p>
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		By: Daniel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 12:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not necessarily about leaving the people on the left, and can also just be an ideological awakening.

My grandfather was a precinct captain for the original Mayor Daley, and my whole family is rabid Democrat and somewhat leftist as well.  Just because someone votes Democrat doesn&#039;t mean they actually understand what their party is all about.  I voted for Jimmy Carter and went off to college where I was exposed to an incredible barrage of leftist thought and anti-Americanism from Americans.  It wasn&#039;t long before I took my first political science course and had a guest lecture from a perennnial presidential candidate, some guy named Stansfield.

It was during Stansfield&#039;s lecture that I suddenly realized that there is an actual ideology behind the parties, even if they don&#039;t always abide by their ideology.  I looked around at what I was seeing on campus, where I wanted to go with my life, and then had the blinding flash of the perfectly obvious.

I&#039;ve been moderately conservative and libertarian ever since, which makes for very interesting Thanksgiving dinners with the family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not necessarily about leaving the people on the left, and can also just be an ideological awakening.</p>
<p>My grandfather was a precinct captain for the original Mayor Daley, and my whole family is rabid Democrat and somewhat leftist as well.  Just because someone votes Democrat doesn&#8217;t mean they actually understand what their party is all about.  I voted for Jimmy Carter and went off to college where I was exposed to an incredible barrage of leftist thought and anti-Americanism from Americans.  It wasn&#8217;t long before I took my first political science course and had a guest lecture from a perennnial presidential candidate, some guy named Stansfield.</p>
<p>It was during Stansfield&#8217;s lecture that I suddenly realized that there is an actual ideology behind the parties, even if they don&#8217;t always abide by their ideology.  I looked around at what I was seeing on campus, where I wanted to go with my life, and then had the blinding flash of the perfectly obvious.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been moderately conservative and libertarian ever since, which makes for very interesting Thanksgiving dinners with the family.</p>
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		By: texexec		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Act of Valor&quot; is doing extremely well at the box office.  Think Hollywood will take note of that?

Nawwwww...they are too brain dead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Act of Valor&#8221; is doing extremely well at the box office.  Think Hollywood will take note of that?</p>
<p>Nawwwww&#8230;they are too brain dead.</p>
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		By: Jan of MN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 07:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Post Liberal -- I like that.  I was intrigued reading Andrew Breitbart&#039;s account of leaving the left:  that it started with the Clarence Thomas hearings, same as with me.  Then he happened upon Rush Limbaugh on the radio, who kept nudging him toward the right -- same as with me.  At first I would often switch off Limbaugh in disgust, but a few days later would be listening again.  Finally I understood his humor and appreciated hearing a more realistic point of view in the media. Now I wonder how many others followed this same path.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post Liberal &#8212; I like that.  I was intrigued reading Andrew Breitbart&#8217;s account of leaving the left:  that it started with the Clarence Thomas hearings, same as with me.  Then he happened upon Rush Limbaugh on the radio, who kept nudging him toward the right &#8212; same as with me.  At first I would often switch off Limbaugh in disgust, but a few days later would be listening again.  Finally I understood his humor and appreciated hearing a more realistic point of view in the media. Now I wonder how many others followed this same path.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 04:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seve:
&lt;i&gt;I loved reading his story too. It’s really not about joining the right but leaving the left.&lt;/i&gt;


That&#039;s what it was for me, and I suppose it is true  for a lot of  people who frequent this site. 

In looking back, I can see some stepping away from the left even when I was on the left. When I was  in college I attended some SDS meetings, as I was against the Vietnam war. In some conversation on the quad, I heard an SDS honcho say that all university students should study Lenin. This was not said in the sense that one should know one&#039;s enemy, but in the sense that one should get to know the works of a great intellect, like Plato or Dante. The SDS honcho was gushing about Lenin.

Courtesy of a Politics course in high school and also having grown up with a number of people who fled the Iron Curtain, I knew enough about Lenin and his ilk to view the SDS honcho&#039;s statement with distaste even then. For over a decade, I still was on the left, but that encounter was a seed that grew.

The SDS honcho who gushed about Lenin did not go the Weatherman route, and has spent some years as a state legislator in a tax-and-spend and get your  photo taken with as many political bigwigs as possible mode- the Zelig of state legislators. But still a &quot;progressive.&quot;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://assistantvillageidiot.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Assistant Village Idiot&lt;/a&gt;, who also left the left, has coined a good term to describe those who left the left: Post Liberal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seve:<br />
<i>I loved reading his story too. It’s really not about joining the right but leaving the left.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what it was for me, and I suppose it is true  for a lot of  people who frequent this site. </p>
<p>In looking back, I can see some stepping away from the left even when I was on the left. When I was  in college I attended some SDS meetings, as I was against the Vietnam war. In some conversation on the quad, I heard an SDS honcho say that all university students should study Lenin. This was not said in the sense that one should know one&#8217;s enemy, but in the sense that one should get to know the works of a great intellect, like Plato or Dante. The SDS honcho was gushing about Lenin.</p>
<p>Courtesy of a Politics course in high school and also having grown up with a number of people who fled the Iron Curtain, I knew enough about Lenin and his ilk to view the SDS honcho&#8217;s statement with distaste even then. For over a decade, I still was on the left, but that encounter was a seed that grew.</p>
<p>The SDS honcho who gushed about Lenin did not go the Weatherman route, and has spent some years as a state legislator in a tax-and-spend and get your  photo taken with as many political bigwigs as possible mode- the Zelig of state legislators. But still a &#8220;progressive.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://assistantvillageidiot.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Assistant Village Idiot</a>, who also left the left, has coined a good term to describe those who left the left: Post Liberal.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 01:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[E.M.H. Says: 
March 6th, 2012 at 3:25 pm
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;That said, maybe there’s a 1:10,000,000 chance that Roger L. Simon knows the guy? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know about that, but as his story is already filtering through the internet, I&#039;ll bet that the Hollywood conservative underground is sending out feelers as we speak.  Clandestine meetings in deserted alleys, passing around &lt;i&gt;samizdat&lt;/i&gt;, that sort of thing.  

If Bill Whittle hasn&#039;t already gotten in touch with him, I&#039;d be surprised.

I just left another comment seconding davisbr&#039;s invitation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.M.H. Says:<br />
March 6th, 2012 at 3:25 pm</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>That said, maybe there’s a 1:10,000,000 chance that Roger L. Simon knows the guy? </p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about that, but as his story is already filtering through the internet, I&#8217;ll bet that the Hollywood conservative underground is sending out feelers as we speak.  Clandestine meetings in deserted alleys, passing around <i>samizdat</i>, that sort of thing.  </p>
<p>If Bill Whittle hasn&#8217;t already gotten in touch with him, I&#8217;d be surprised.</p>
<p>I just left another comment seconding davisbr&#8217;s invitation.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 00:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read his blog post coming out the closet of the Leftist dominion, and it was quite interesting. His attempt at getting Hollywood and TV networks (big corporations allied with totalitarian government power), is also interesting in a sort of insider Hollywood viewpoint.

If you ever wondered why Hollywood and cable tv doesn&#039;t have anything interesting... you might want to read his post about his own travails.

http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/plight-of-a-scriptwriter/

Andrew Breitbart, stronger in death than in life? The martyr the Left always kept telling us we were the ones making?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read his blog post coming out the closet of the Leftist dominion, and it was quite interesting. His attempt at getting Hollywood and TV networks (big corporations allied with totalitarian government power), is also interesting in a sort of insider Hollywood viewpoint.</p>
<p>If you ever wondered why Hollywood and cable tv doesn&#8217;t have anything interesting&#8230; you might want to read his post about his own travails.</p>
<p><a href="http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/plight-of-a-scriptwriter/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2012/03/05/plight-of-a-scriptwriter/</a></p>
<p>Andrew Breitbart, stronger in death than in life? The martyr the Left always kept telling us we were the ones making?</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 00:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I left a comment there last night, and I thought about inviting him here, but I decided it would be presumptuous on my part.  I hope he responds to davisbr&#039;s invitation.

He &quot;came out&quot; on Saturday night via Twitter, and his feed was linked at Ace of Spades on Sunday, where I read it.  Very cool.  He just finally snapped and let fly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left a comment there last night, and I thought about inviting him here, but I decided it would be presumptuous on my part.  I hope he responds to davisbr&#8217;s invitation.</p>
<p>He &#8220;came out&#8221; on Saturday night via Twitter, and his feed was linked at Ace of Spades on Sunday, where I read it.  Very cool.  He just finally snapped and let fly.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 23:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great read!

 An eye opener on how the fashionable thought mechanism that has advanced liberalism the past 20 years is morphing into a horribly destructive movement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read!</p>
<p> An eye opener on how the fashionable thought mechanism that has advanced liberalism the past 20 years is morphing into a horribly destructive movement.</p>
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