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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/02/18/knoplers-voice/#comment-319527</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[RodW:  thanks!  I just listened to it and yes, it has that distinctive Knopfler something-or-other.

I&#039;m just in awe of his guitar playing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RodW:  thanks!  I just listened to it and yes, it has that distinctive Knopfler something-or-other.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just in awe of his guitar playing.</p>
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		By: RodW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/02/18/knoplers-voice/#comment-319524</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few years after Knopfler became well-known with Dire Straits the McGarrigle sisters released what may be their only song to ever get top-40 airplay, Love Over and Over.  I was struck at the time by the interesting guitar bits in the background and only recently learned it was none other than he.  It&#039;s pretty obvious once you know who it is: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mqt_q-7yg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years after Knopfler became well-known with Dire Straits the McGarrigle sisters released what may be their only song to ever get top-40 airplay, Love Over and Over.  I was struck at the time by the interesting guitar bits in the background and only recently learned it was none other than he.  It&#8217;s pretty obvious once you know who it is: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mqt_q-7yg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_mqt_q-7yg</a></p>
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		By: E.M.H.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/02/18/knoplers-voice/#comment-319475</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But anyway, to continue my thought: That sort of thing (slowing down. Understating. Changing pace) is so lacking nowadays. Once, just *once*, I WISH someone would take Christina Aguilera&#039;s dog hostage or something to force her to try and moderate her style by singing understated. Even for just a brief period. I swear, if someone could drag her away from all that pop atmosphere and force her into some old style Koko Taylor or Etta James type music, she&#039;d hit it out of the park. Way out. And yes, *THAT* stuff isn&#039;t really understated; it&#039;s only so in comparison to her Lets-Hit-The-Edge-Of-The-Atmosphere style she uses today. But it&#039;s a chageup and it takes her away from being a space shuttle booster rocket that&#039;s all until it falls back to earth. I honestly think she&#039;s got the talent to do it, and I honestly think she&#039;d sound great doing it. I just wish she&#039;d try.

Sometimes, you just gotta hit the brakes and slow down. 

It&#039;s effective. You see it in opera, and operatic/classical style music (sorry, I&#039;m no serious student of music, so I do a lumping together of a lot of stuff that would make a serious musician blanche). And it works. Listen to Orff&#039;s Carmina Burana as an example (yes, I know that&#039;s not opera! Bear with me, please). You don&#039;t get much more mad, loud, and imperative sound than is present in the climax of O Fortuna, but you also get some movements within that songe that are so quiet and understated that you have to strain to listen. You also get slower, more introspective pieces like In Trutina. Carmina Burana is very, very evocative and moving in it&#039;s changeup.

It&#039;s also effective in a genre you wouldn&#039;t guess is anything less than 100% All Out: Metal. Or in my example, &quot;Prog&quot; (for progressive) metal. Listen to the changeups in Queensryche&#039;s dark rock opera &quot;Operation Mindcrime&quot;. You get the intense shredding and higher-than-high note hits in songs like Anarchy-X and Revolution Calling followed by the slow, stately tracks like &quot;Suite Sister Mary&quot; or the calm-before-the-storm piece &quot;My Empty Room&quot;. It really works in evoking the various states of emotion within the context of the album (keep in mind, though that the context is a first person account of paranoid delusion, so it&#039;s not expansive. But still, it&#039;s not one note either, and that&#039;s my point).

And getting back to Knopfler: He&#039;s a great listen because he is a changeup from so much else of what&#039;s out there. He&#039;s lyrical, he&#039;s evocative, and he&#039;s smooth. It&#039;s something that other, bigger, more popular performers should take note of. Don&#039;t get me wrong; sometimes you want to see the flash and spectacle too. PBS (of all stations!) once aired part of a Beyonce concert, and honestly, it looked fun! But at the same time, you have to remember that you can electrify with simplicity. Like Leonard Nimoy once observed:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;Back in the mid-1950s, my wife and I had gone to see Belafonte sing at Los Angeles&#039;s Greek Theatre.
 
For the first forty-five minutes of his performance, he scarcely moved a muscle – only stood perfectly still in front of amicrophone, his shoulders hunched, his hands resting on his thighs. And then, after all that time, he suddenly made a move. He merely lifted his right arm slowly until it hovered parallel to the floor – but the impact of that one subtle motion on the audience was tremendous. Had he been dancing around the stage, the gesture would have been meaningless; as it was, it dazzled like a lightning bolt.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Music needs both. That&#039;s why Knopfler is part of my listening playlist. It&#039;s also why he&#039;s not the *only* performer on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But anyway, to continue my thought: That sort of thing (slowing down. Understating. Changing pace) is so lacking nowadays. Once, just *once*, I WISH someone would take Christina Aguilera&#8217;s dog hostage or something to force her to try and moderate her style by singing understated. Even for just a brief period. I swear, if someone could drag her away from all that pop atmosphere and force her into some old style Koko Taylor or Etta James type music, she&#8217;d hit it out of the park. Way out. And yes, *THAT* stuff isn&#8217;t really understated; it&#8217;s only so in comparison to her Lets-Hit-The-Edge-Of-The-Atmosphere style she uses today. But it&#8217;s a chageup and it takes her away from being a space shuttle booster rocket that&#8217;s all until it falls back to earth. I honestly think she&#8217;s got the talent to do it, and I honestly think she&#8217;d sound great doing it. I just wish she&#8217;d try.</p>
<p>Sometimes, you just gotta hit the brakes and slow down. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s effective. You see it in opera, and operatic/classical style music (sorry, I&#8217;m no serious student of music, so I do a lumping together of a lot of stuff that would make a serious musician blanche). And it works. Listen to Orff&#8217;s Carmina Burana as an example (yes, I know that&#8217;s not opera! Bear with me, please). You don&#8217;t get much more mad, loud, and imperative sound than is present in the climax of O Fortuna, but you also get some movements within that songe that are so quiet and understated that you have to strain to listen. You also get slower, more introspective pieces like In Trutina. Carmina Burana is very, very evocative and moving in it&#8217;s changeup.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also effective in a genre you wouldn&#8217;t guess is anything less than 100% All Out: Metal. Or in my example, &#8220;Prog&#8221; (for progressive) metal. Listen to the changeups in Queensryche&#8217;s dark rock opera &#8220;Operation Mindcrime&#8221;. You get the intense shredding and higher-than-high note hits in songs like Anarchy-X and Revolution Calling followed by the slow, stately tracks like &#8220;Suite Sister Mary&#8221; or the calm-before-the-storm piece &#8220;My Empty Room&#8221;. It really works in evoking the various states of emotion within the context of the album (keep in mind, though that the context is a first person account of paranoid delusion, so it&#8217;s not expansive. But still, it&#8217;s not one note either, and that&#8217;s my point).</p>
<p>And getting back to Knopfler: He&#8217;s a great listen because he is a changeup from so much else of what&#8217;s out there. He&#8217;s lyrical, he&#8217;s evocative, and he&#8217;s smooth. It&#8217;s something that other, bigger, more popular performers should take note of. Don&#8217;t get me wrong; sometimes you want to see the flash and spectacle too. PBS (of all stations!) once aired part of a Beyonce concert, and honestly, it looked fun! But at the same time, you have to remember that you can electrify with simplicity. Like Leonard Nimoy once observed:</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8220;Back in the mid-1950s, my wife and I had gone to see Belafonte sing at Los Angeles&#8217;s Greek Theatre.</p>
<p>For the first forty-five minutes of his performance, he scarcely moved a muscle – only stood perfectly still in front of amicrophone, his shoulders hunched, his hands resting on his thighs. And then, after all that time, he suddenly made a move. He merely lifted his right arm slowly until it hovered parallel to the floor – but the impact of that one subtle motion on the audience was tremendous. Had he been dancing around the stage, the gesture would have been meaningless; as it was, it dazzled like a lightning bolt.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Music needs both. That&#8217;s why Knopfler is part of my listening playlist. It&#8217;s also why he&#8217;s not the *only* performer on it.</p>
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		By: E.M.H.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/02/18/knoplers-voice/#comment-319468</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geez, I&#039;m so behind the curve here. This was posted back on Saturday, and I&#039;m just now getting to it. :(

Anyway, Knopfler: His guitar playing is excellent in that it&#039;s understated yet not minimalistic. That&#039;s something that&#039;s missing in a lot of popular - and dare I say it? Pop - music nowadays. Sure, I can get into someone who lets their virtuoso hang out on the High setting, but after the thousandth time, it just gets monotonous. Folks just need a changeup now and then. Which is why I can listen to DiMeola or De Lucia&#039;s mad virtuouso one minute and turn around and put in some David Gilmour (sure, Gilmour&#039;s not exactly a &quot;minimalist&quot;... but he&#039;s no shredder either. And anyway, anyone short of a blues or jazz version of Eddie Van Halen would be minimalist compared to either DiMeola or De Lucia!). Knopfler&#039;s guitar playing is lyrical in that respect.

And this goes on to the notion of ALL OUT MUSIC (caps intended) compared to understated play. It&#039;s fun to switch back and forth, and for the life of me I **wish** more musicians would do the same. Carlos Santana (ignoring his distasteful worship of Che... yeah, that&#039;s a huge fault, I admit) is someone who could do this; I listen to his live version of Europa on Moonflower, and I see him do both extremely well: He uses the understated play in the beginning to set up the mood, but climaxes in a great rush to elevate the song to a glorious height. And then comes back down gently to play it out. Wonderful, **wonderful** music. It goes beyond something I can listen to into something I can experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, I&#8217;m so behind the curve here. This was posted back on Saturday, and I&#8217;m just now getting to it. 🙁</p>
<p>Anyway, Knopfler: His guitar playing is excellent in that it&#8217;s understated yet not minimalistic. That&#8217;s something that&#8217;s missing in a lot of popular &#8211; and dare I say it? Pop &#8211; music nowadays. Sure, I can get into someone who lets their virtuoso hang out on the High setting, but after the thousandth time, it just gets monotonous. Folks just need a changeup now and then. Which is why I can listen to DiMeola or De Lucia&#8217;s mad virtuouso one minute and turn around and put in some David Gilmour (sure, Gilmour&#8217;s not exactly a &#8220;minimalist&#8221;&#8230; but he&#8217;s no shredder either. And anyway, anyone short of a blues or jazz version of Eddie Van Halen would be minimalist compared to either DiMeola or De Lucia!). Knopfler&#8217;s guitar playing is lyrical in that respect.</p>
<p>And this goes on to the notion of ALL OUT MUSIC (caps intended) compared to understated play. It&#8217;s fun to switch back and forth, and for the life of me I **wish** more musicians would do the same. Carlos Santana (ignoring his distasteful worship of Che&#8230; yeah, that&#8217;s a huge fault, I admit) is someone who could do this; I listen to his live version of Europa on Moonflower, and I see him do both extremely well: He uses the understated play in the beginning to set up the mood, but climaxes in a great rush to elevate the song to a glorious height. And then comes back down gently to play it out. Wonderful, **wonderful** music. It goes beyond something I can listen to into something I can experience.</p>
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		By: Brandoch Daha		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/02/18/knoplers-voice/#comment-319325</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 03:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Knopfler&#039;s one of the finest singers in rock&#039;n&#039;roll. His phrasing is one of the wonders of the world. 

Not everybody understands that, though. In college I knew a girl, a trained singer, who told me it was a shame such a good song was wasted on a &quot;terrible [sic] singer&quot; like Knopfler. She played me a version by the Indigo Girls or something, and they just sledgehammered at it like robots. Just beat it to death. All the tact and feel of a steamroller. I&#039;ve recorded more expressive drum machine tracks. 

I politely told her it was a very nice recording. Some people have nerve endings six inches wide. Whitney Houston is too subtle for them, never mind Mark Knopfler.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knopfler&#8217;s one of the finest singers in rock&#8217;n&#8217;roll. His phrasing is one of the wonders of the world. </p>
<p>Not everybody understands that, though. In college I knew a girl, a trained singer, who told me it was a shame such a good song was wasted on a &#8220;terrible [sic] singer&#8221; like Knopfler. She played me a version by the Indigo Girls or something, and they just sledgehammered at it like robots. Just beat it to death. All the tact and feel of a steamroller. I&#8217;ve recorded more expressive drum machine tracks. </p>
<p>I politely told her it was a very nice recording. Some people have nerve endings six inches wide. Whitney Houston is too subtle for them, never mind Mark Knopfler.</p>
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		By: DG		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/02/18/knoplers-voice/#comment-319319</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m amazed no-one mentioned &quot;Love over Gold&quot;. While I think &quot;Brothers in Arms&quot; is the stronger album (and track) overall, &quot;Telegraph Rd&quot; and the title track are two of my favorite three pieces by him. Too bad Industrial disease gets nicked out by &quot;Walk of Life&quot; and &quot;Money for Nuthin&#039;&quot; but is still awesome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed no-one mentioned &#8220;Love over Gold&#8221;. While I think &#8220;Brothers in Arms&#8221; is the stronger album (and track) overall, &#8220;Telegraph Rd&#8221; and the title track are two of my favorite three pieces by him. Too bad Industrial disease gets nicked out by &#8220;Walk of Life&#8221; and &#8220;Money for Nuthin'&#8221; but is still awesome.</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/02/18/knoplers-voice/#comment-319150</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 11:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think you would enjoy his brother David Knopfler&#039;s voice and music as well. Sometimes a bit haunting but unique and nice to listen to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you would enjoy his brother David Knopfler&#8217;s voice and music as well. Sometimes a bit haunting but unique and nice to listen to.</p>
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		By: Ron &#38; Anna Winship		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/02/18/knoplers-voice/#comment-319085</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 04:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[davisbr....is right on.  That whole first album still is killer.  The West End......this was truly the resurgence of music after the terrible disco era.  Yes, Donna Summer was terrific....but other than that and John Travolta....what did you have?

We thought it was Dylan...the first time we heard it too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>davisbr&#8230;.is right on.  That whole first album still is killer.  The West End&#8230;&#8230;this was truly the resurgence of music after the terrible disco era.  Yes, Donna Summer was terrific&#8230;.but other than that and John Travolta&#8230;.what did you have?</p>
<p>We thought it was Dylan&#8230;the first time we heard it too!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 04:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great artist.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 03:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh Neo, thanks for the shot of Mark. I played the heck out of my Brothers in Arms CD, but haven&#039;t listened in too long. Queue it up. Been enjoying what you do ever since that podcast you used to do with Siggy et al. Boy how I would love to hear the 4 of you riff on Obama...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Neo, thanks for the shot of Mark. I played the heck out of my Brothers in Arms CD, but haven&#8217;t listened in too long. Queue it up. Been enjoying what you do ever since that podcast you used to do with Siggy et al. Boy how I would love to hear the 4 of you riff on Obama&#8230;</p>
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