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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/24/hansel-and-gretel-losing-their-religion/#comment-299292</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And what did u contribute jdwel? Showing off a grade school level of math and what else?
Anything about why? Who? Any kind of contribution of substance?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what did u contribute jdwel? Showing off a grade school level of math and what else?<br />
Anything about why? Who? Any kind of contribution of substance?</p>
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		By: Jewel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/24/hansel-and-gretel-losing-their-religion/#comment-299240</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jewel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 06:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There were 14 comments, one for each angel, but artfldgr counts as 7 of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were 14 comments, one for each angel, but artfldgr counts as 7 of them.</p>
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		By: NJartist49		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/24/hansel-and-gretel-losing-their-religion/#comment-299073</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NJartist49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Artfldgr:
I had to stop reading when I hit this nonsense:

&quot;Opera, unlike almost all other art forms, was invented.&quot;

These people are in Red&#039;s immortal words: Dumb-asses!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Artfldgr:<br />
I had to stop reading when I hit this nonsense:</p>
<p>&#8220;Opera, unlike almost all other art forms, was invented.&#8221;</p>
<p>These people are in Red&#8217;s immortal words: Dumb-asses!</p>
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		By: renminbi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 14:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is vandalism-the director has to &quot;express himself&quot;,to show he is an&quot;artist&quot;at the expense of the work. What bothers me is that people passively accept this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is vandalism-the director has to &#8220;express himself&#8221;,to show he is an&#8221;artist&#8221;at the expense of the work. What bothers me is that people passively accept this.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/24/hansel-and-gretel-losing-their-religion/#comment-298795</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 05:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Feminist Interpretation of Fairy Tales

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;source=web&#038;cd=3&#038;ved=0CCMQFjAC&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fuserpages.umbc.edu%2F~korenman%2Fwmst%2Ffairytale_more.html&#038;ei=Dqn2TqTqDcbWrQfQirHRDw&#038;usg=AFQjCNGgeSO6nWqtYxojKe_u2meqkgztWA

and this feminist rewrite:
We&#039;ve all read the story about Hansel and Gretel as children. I, for one, was terrified by it. Mean stepmothers, dark forests, witches with massive ovens that want to cook and eat children?! Perhaps it is fitting, then, that Louise Murphy puts a clever spin on this fairy tale, and weaves it into a fictional and terrifying account of the survival of two Jewish children during the Holocaust.

Go trolling the collectve as they are winning unopposed other than a few older women claiming they don&#039;t represent them

as if that has any meaning beyond their own ears

this is a post modernist matriarchy get used to it
they won 
though beating up people who loved u and wanted to do what u want was no real trick
opposing the new masters 
that will be different as we all know how much women play a role on actual communist states or Islam!!
They don&#039;t
and they will be surprised 
and will whine to be saved to people who aren&#039;t there and generally don&#039;t care
and will not give them a voice but for show
such is politics of despotism!!!!!!
Enjoy ur beds]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feminist Interpretation of Fairy Tales</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;source=web&#038;cd=3&#038;ved=0CCMQFjAC&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fuserpages.umbc.edu%2F~korenman%2Fwmst%2Ffairytale_more.html&#038;ei=Dqn2TqTqDcbWrQfQirHRDw&#038;usg=AFQjCNGgeSO6nWqtYxojKe_u2meqkgztWA" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;source=web&#038;cd=3&#038;ved=0CCMQFjAC&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fuserpages.umbc.edu%2F~korenman%2Fwmst%2Ffairytale_more.html&#038;ei=Dqn2TqTqDcbWrQfQirHRDw&#038;usg=AFQjCNGgeSO6nWqtYxojKe_u2meqkgztWA</a></p>
<p>and this feminist rewrite:<br />
We&#8217;ve all read the story about Hansel and Gretel as children. I, for one, was terrified by it. Mean stepmothers, dark forests, witches with massive ovens that want to cook and eat children?! Perhaps it is fitting, then, that Louise Murphy puts a clever spin on this fairy tale, and weaves it into a fictional and terrifying account of the survival of two Jewish children during the Holocaust.</p>
<p>Go trolling the collectve as they are winning unopposed other than a few older women claiming they don&#8217;t represent them</p>
<p>as if that has any meaning beyond their own ears</p>
<p>this is a post modernist matriarchy get used to it<br />
they won<br />
though beating up people who loved u and wanted to do what u want was no real trick<br />
opposing the new masters<br />
that will be different as we all know how much women play a role on actual communist states or Islam!!<br />
They don&#8217;t<br />
and they will be surprised<br />
and will whine to be saved to people who aren&#8217;t there and generally don&#8217;t care<br />
and will not give them a voice but for show<br />
such is politics of despotism!!!!!!<br />
Enjoy ur beds</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And due to apple iPhone and such sucking wind here is where they write out the angels
&quot;Alas! Woe! We are lost!&quot; cried Hansel and Gretel. &quot;Once again, female intuitiveness has failed! So now in the challenge of the hero construct we must wander the forest - fatigued, vulnerable, deprived of all paternal figures for comfort and protection, and great, gnawing hunger (oddly, as we had only just scoffed down the entire contents of a picnic basket).&quot; The siblings traipsed through the forest; bemoaning their misfortune and how surprisingly nature had turned against them when they smelled the greatest smell ever smelt by their intended audience. Sweets! Hansel and Gretel were revived and followed the scent, dashing through the trees until they reached a clearing. And in that clearing, luring the children like Capitalist propaganda, there was a most playful and marketable cottage built of gingerbread and assorted confectionery.

Hansel and Gretel stared up at this symbol of an American Dream House with wide, shining eyes and even wider stomachs, and in that very moment they too strayed from the philanthropic path of protagonists and rejoiced in this great materialistic discovery. Uncaring that this house was an illustration of neglect in nutritional and moral values, they began to break off portions of the gingerbread and sweets and energetically eat. But a conventionally innocuous old woman wearing a black cape appeared at the front door, watching Hansel and Gretel greedily consume her property with a calm curiosity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And due to apple iPhone and such sucking wind here is where they write out the angels<br />
&#8220;Alas! Woe! We are lost!&#8221; cried Hansel and Gretel. &#8220;Once again, female intuitiveness has failed! So now in the challenge of the hero construct we must wander the forest &#8211; fatigued, vulnerable, deprived of all paternal figures for comfort and protection, and great, gnawing hunger (oddly, as we had only just scoffed down the entire contents of a picnic basket).&#8221; The siblings traipsed through the forest; bemoaning their misfortune and how surprisingly nature had turned against them when they smelled the greatest smell ever smelt by their intended audience. Sweets! Hansel and Gretel were revived and followed the scent, dashing through the trees until they reached a clearing. And in that clearing, luring the children like Capitalist propaganda, there was a most playful and marketable cottage built of gingerbread and assorted confectionery.</p>
<p>Hansel and Gretel stared up at this symbol of an American Dream House with wide, shining eyes and even wider stomachs, and in that very moment they too strayed from the philanthropic path of protagonists and rejoiced in this great materialistic discovery. Uncaring that this house was an illustration of neglect in nutritional and moral values, they began to break off portions of the gingerbread and sweets and energetically eat. But a conventionally innocuous old woman wearing a black cape appeared at the front door, watching Hansel and Gretel greedily consume her property with a calm curiosity.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/24/hansel-and-gretel-losing-their-religion/#comment-298791</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Adelheid Wette

read the teaching guide and note that it&#039;s a feminist tale of a drunken abusive father and that both parts are played by girls making hansel a metrosexual and more buried in a huge amount of general technical stuff
see
A Postmodernist&#039;s Hansel and Gretel
&lt;blockquote&gt;The father, obviously noting my earlier contradiction that the family was happy without money and then almost immediately labeling them consumerists, gave into Capitalist influence and married a wealthy woman who dominated him and forced a passive role onto him, causing great gender confusion. Realizing that not only was she breaking female stereotype, she was also a stepmother and therefore evil, so she began to plot sweet Hansel and Gretel&#039;s disappearance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
it would pay to wake
 up and pay attention to what&#039;s actually going on
&lt;blockquote&gt;Never fear, sister!&quot; said Hansel in a heroic fashion. &quot;We must protect our old-fashioned, insular, misogynistic beliefs! When Stepmother invites us into the forest with her, I shall use the elements of the forest - a representation of nature and its rejection of materialism - to thwart her wretched plan. I shall drop stone by stone behind me as we walk, then when we are lost, we shall follow the trail of stones back home.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adelheid Wette</p>
<p>read the teaching guide and note that it&#8217;s a feminist tale of a drunken abusive father and that both parts are played by girls making hansel a metrosexual and more buried in a huge amount of general technical stuff<br />
see<br />
A Postmodernist&#8217;s Hansel and Gretel</p>
<blockquote><p>The father, obviously noting my earlier contradiction that the family was happy without money and then almost immediately labeling them consumerists, gave into Capitalist influence and married a wealthy woman who dominated him and forced a passive role onto him, causing great gender confusion. Realizing that not only was she breaking female stereotype, she was also a stepmother and therefore evil, so she began to plot sweet Hansel and Gretel&#8217;s disappearance.</p></blockquote>
<p>it would pay to wake<br />
 up and pay attention to what&#8217;s actually going on</p>
<blockquote><p>Never fear, sister!&#8221; said Hansel in a heroic fashion. &#8220;We must protect our old-fashioned, insular, misogynistic beliefs! When Stepmother invites us into the forest with her, I shall use the elements of the forest &#8211; a representation of nature and its rejection of materialism &#8211; to thwart her wretched plan. I shall drop stone by stone behind me as we walk, then when we are lost, we shall follow the trail of stones back home.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>and</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing has long troubled me about the arts, whether visual, musical, or performance; the need to be NEW, to be different. I think this links to the Left&#039;s general mindset. It cheapens and vulgarizes, but it is NEW. 
As I listen to my favorite Messiah recording, as I have for forty years, the LP replaced by a CD, I think it is damn hard to do better, more than 250 years later. Durable greatness of creation is incredibly rare. The disrepectful Left is not up to it, so they cheapen, parody, and tarnish in spiteful jealousy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing has long troubled me about the arts, whether visual, musical, or performance; the need to be NEW, to be different. I think this links to the Left&#8217;s general mindset. It cheapens and vulgarizes, but it is NEW.<br />
As I listen to my favorite Messiah recording, as I have for forty years, the LP replaced by a CD, I think it is damn hard to do better, more than 250 years later. Durable greatness of creation is incredibly rare. The disrepectful Left is not up to it, so they cheapen, parody, and tarnish in spiteful jealousy.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.metoperafamily.org/_uploaded/pdf/pressrelease/hanselandgretelcompleteguide.pdf

The times and sfgate are praising teaching the humanities through rewriting hansel and gretel
Met opera&#039;s &#039;Hansel&#039; is a musical food feast
MIKE SILVERMAN, For The Associated Press
Updated 11:22 a.m., Saturday, December 17, 2011]]></description>
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<p>The times and sfgate are praising teaching the humanities through rewriting hansel and gretel<br />
Met opera&#8217;s &#8216;Hansel&#8217; is a musical food feast<br />
MIKE SILVERMAN, For The Associated Press<br />
Updated 11:22 a.m., Saturday, December 17, 2011</p>
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		By: Hope Change		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hope Change]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 04:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Neo-neocon, thank you for enriching my life this Christmas Eve.  The loveliness of the scene with the angels!!  I know the Prayer Song, in the translation you like, and I love it; but I didn&#039;t realize that the Angels scene would be so beautiful.  So sincere.  

Sometimes I think of things I have read that say that there are angels who sing God&#039;s praises without ceasing.  I wonder what that would sound like.

This truly made my night more beautiful.  I will remember the image of the angels at the end of the music, and it will be a comfort!

I often have uplifting experiences when I watch the dance and other art videos you bring to my attention.

Thanks!  All the best for the Holidays, Merry Christmas to the Christian flock, and a Happy New Year to us all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Neo-neocon, thank you for enriching my life this Christmas Eve.  The loveliness of the scene with the angels!!  I know the Prayer Song, in the translation you like, and I love it; but I didn&#8217;t realize that the Angels scene would be so beautiful.  So sincere.  </p>
<p>Sometimes I think of things I have read that say that there are angels who sing God&#8217;s praises without ceasing.  I wonder what that would sound like.</p>
<p>This truly made my night more beautiful.  I will remember the image of the angels at the end of the music, and it will be a comfort!</p>
<p>I often have uplifting experiences when I watch the dance and other art videos you bring to my attention.</p>
<p>Thanks!  All the best for the Holidays, Merry Christmas to the Christian flock, and a Happy New Year to us all.</p>
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