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		By: Stuart Eber		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/23/growing-numbers-of-independents/#comment-299359</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stuart Eber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,

Your article sounds right on, although there may be some true independents, You sound like one yourself.
Voting for a candidate based on what one believes without caring what party they belong to is ideal but can be very difficult if one cares too much about what other people think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,</p>
<p>Your article sounds right on, although there may be some true independents, You sound like one yourself.<br />
Voting for a candidate based on what one believes without caring what party they belong to is ideal but can be very difficult if one cares too much about what other people think.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/23/growing-numbers-of-independents/#comment-298775</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 03:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This time the edumacTed women will be drafted
And the welfare ones without enough education or abIlity will be 4F when there are not enough men]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This time the edumacTed women will be drafted<br />
And the welfare ones without enough education or abIlity will be 4F when there are not enough men</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/23/growing-numbers-of-independents/#comment-298769</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 03:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Blockquote failure given the iPhone I am stuck with in indonesia
arrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blockquote failure given the iPhone I am stuck with in indonesia<br />
arrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!!</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/23/growing-numbers-of-independents/#comment-298768</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 03:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama White House announces National Action Plan on Women, Peace and Security

&lt;blockquote&gt;An Executive Order was issued by President Obama in order to initiate the program.   

According to the Statement of National Policy in the document, the goal of the United States National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security is “to empower half the world’s population as equal partners in preventing conflict and building peace in countries threatened and affected by war, violence, and insecurity,” adding, “Achieving this goal is critical to our national and global security.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;

So voting against him will be voting against all women globally, and guess which group biologically will fall for it (Hint: there is a real reason for then not being in politics before, and its not because of oppression. Its because they have fluid and situational morals and there sense of 50/50 is 80/20 in their favor. 90/10 in custody etc. In fact there is a new flood of books trying to make men men, defined as favoritism for women which is unreciprocated. Such unfairness and skewed justice is not what old mens honor codes were about from budhido to knights, to the foundations of out constitutional nation. It took the women to imagine state slavery as freedom, something the men would not have fallen for. Nor would they work for destruction of family and harm to their lineages as ok in trade for the ability to buy manolo blanicks without argument ) 

&lt;blockquote&gt;

kaching!!!! 
He wins

the ladies took us from low crime, well behaved children, educated kids, families, holidays, equity and equal opportunity, self value 
to what? 
Poverty, favoritism, high crime and dysfunction, poor education, destruction of merit, ignoring constitution for perks and legal advantage, welfare almost exclusively for them, men not being able to work, STD so normalized that they need innoculations as little girls, inability to tolerate any plurality they don&#039;t agree with, indoctrination over education, and lots more misery

and the whole time blaming men for how bad it is, with refusal to see it&#039;s their improvements and lack of patience and vanity, not mens policies

men fought and died in the millions to remain free
women blew that and happily turned themselves into state slaves so their labor could be taxed and they can murder their own progeny for convienience rather than live responsibly

go ahead tell me it&#039;s the men who think it&#039;s liberating for their daughters to be sex industry workers on jobs day

better yet, compare the changes to the girl scouts and their attack on religion etc with the boy scours and their willingness to dissolve rather than compromise their values!!!!

Oh and the worst part is their refusal to even see themselves as the force, as vanity and fantasy has them inured to the destruction as long as they can blame men

they are going to love sharia and all that as they are driving the men to that and state slavery!!! 

But I am sure that someone here will deny it as they never read the leaders celebration of their accomplishments!!!

Committed to this effort are the United States Department of Defense, and the State Department, as well as the Departments of Homeland Security, Justice, and Treasury. Also involved in the effort are the U.S. Mission to the United Nations, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the Office of the United States Trade Representative&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama White House announces National Action Plan on Women, Peace and Security</p>
<blockquote><p>An Executive Order was issued by President Obama in order to initiate the program.   </p>
<p>According to the Statement of National Policy in the document, the goal of the United States National Action Plan on Women, Peace, and Security is “to empower half the world’s population as equal partners in preventing conflict and building peace in countries threatened and affected by war, violence, and insecurity,” adding, “Achieving this goal is critical to our national and global security.” </p></blockquote>
<p>So voting against him will be voting against all women globally, and guess which group biologically will fall for it (Hint: there is a real reason for then not being in politics before, and its not because of oppression. Its because they have fluid and situational morals and there sense of 50/50 is 80/20 in their favor. 90/10 in custody etc. In fact there is a new flood of books trying to make men men, defined as favoritism for women which is unreciprocated. Such unfairness and skewed justice is not what old mens honor codes were about from budhido to knights, to the foundations of out constitutional nation. It took the women to imagine state slavery as freedom, something the men would not have fallen for. Nor would they work for destruction of family and harm to their lineages as ok in trade for the ability to buy manolo blanicks without argument ) </p>
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<p>kaching!!!!<br />
He wins</p>
<p>the ladies took us from low crime, well behaved children, educated kids, families, holidays, equity and equal opportunity, self value<br />
to what?<br />
Poverty, favoritism, high crime and dysfunction, poor education, destruction of merit, ignoring constitution for perks and legal advantage, welfare almost exclusively for them, men not being able to work, STD so normalized that they need innoculations as little girls, inability to tolerate any plurality they don&#8217;t agree with, indoctrination over education, and lots more misery</p>
<p>and the whole time blaming men for how bad it is, with refusal to see it&#8217;s their improvements and lack of patience and vanity, not mens policies</p>
<p>men fought and died in the millions to remain free<br />
women blew that and happily turned themselves into state slaves so their labor could be taxed and they can murder their own progeny for convienience rather than live responsibly</p>
<p>go ahead tell me it&#8217;s the men who think it&#8217;s liberating for their daughters to be sex industry workers on jobs day</p>
<p>better yet, compare the changes to the girl scouts and their attack on religion etc with the boy scours and their willingness to dissolve rather than compromise their values!!!!</p>
<p>Oh and the worst part is their refusal to even see themselves as the force, as vanity and fantasy has them inured to the destruction as long as they can blame men</p>
<p>they are going to love sharia and all that as they are driving the men to that and state slavery!!! </p>
<p>But I am sure that someone here will deny it as they never read the leaders celebration of their accomplishments!!!</p>
<p>Committed to this effort are the United States Department of Defense, and the State Department, as well as the Departments of Homeland Security, Justice, and Treasury. Also involved in the effort are the U.S. Mission to the United Nations, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the Office of the United States Trade Representative</p></blockquote>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/23/growing-numbers-of-independents/#comment-298760</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 02:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Later when early polls come in it will be from false flag independents with the idea that the crowd will reinforce the flow. So rather than get the real deal they will sway more

this time all the stops will come out
multiple voting
gamed machines
lost ballots found to late to matter
intimidation at the centers
skewed polls
Obama bribing &quot;women&quot; (which he already started)
fear fomented in minority welfare space
foreign monies
foreign expertise
mass events 
even war, with anuclear incident possible
(note there have been several times nuclear war has nearly started and not even known in the publics memory. A near &#039;rogue&#039; launch. Reagan twarting another plan by building up so they kept putting off to match it,etc)
old dirt on candidates only sticking to one side
right now they are choosing the candidate to lose by destroying any real candidate with potential and any not under their control

you all ain&#039;t seen nothin yet 
before we had ghe rule of law and the constitution
those two are effectively gone now through unchallenged precedent!!!
They just haven&#039;t used that CHANGE in weapons yet but it&#039;s their trump card
and don&#039;t forget more race hate and violence against white males (which includes Jewish males)
laws specifically targeting the demographically dead race have increased several times over (ergo Obama buying off women who are too full of themselves and vanity and pavlovian skinnerian pc big lies)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Later when early polls come in it will be from false flag independents with the idea that the crowd will reinforce the flow. So rather than get the real deal they will sway more</p>
<p>this time all the stops will come out<br />
multiple voting<br />
gamed machines<br />
lost ballots found to late to matter<br />
intimidation at the centers<br />
skewed polls<br />
Obama bribing &#8220;women&#8221; (which he already started)<br />
fear fomented in minority welfare space<br />
foreign monies<br />
foreign expertise<br />
mass events<br />
even war, with anuclear incident possible<br />
(note there have been several times nuclear war has nearly started and not even known in the publics memory. A near &#8216;rogue&#8217; launch. Reagan twarting another plan by building up so they kept putting off to match it,etc)<br />
old dirt on candidates only sticking to one side<br />
right now they are choosing the candidate to lose by destroying any real candidate with potential and any not under their control</p>
<p>you all ain&#8217;t seen nothin yet<br />
before we had ghe rule of law and the constitution<br />
those two are effectively gone now through unchallenged precedent!!!<br />
They just haven&#8217;t used that CHANGE in weapons yet but it&#8217;s their trump card<br />
and don&#8217;t forget more race hate and violence against white males (which includes Jewish males)<br />
laws specifically targeting the demographically dead race have increased several times over (ergo Obama buying off women who are too full of themselves and vanity and pavlovian skinnerian pc big lies)</p>
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		By: Mike Mc.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/23/growing-numbers-of-independents/#comment-298684</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Parker,

They tell me that the only President &quot;Independents&quot; ever elected was Barack Obama.

So much for the high horse &quot;independents&quot; pose for photographs on.

The &quot;independent&quot; stands for what exactly?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Parker,</p>
<p>They tell me that the only President &#8220;Independents&#8221; ever elected was Barack Obama.</p>
<p>So much for the high horse &#8220;independents&#8221; pose for photographs on.</p>
<p>The &#8220;independent&#8221; stands for what exactly?</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/23/growing-numbers-of-independents/#comment-298677</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Always trying to see a natural way rather than the trick
independants are th election deciders. Tell the left to register as independants, and come election their voting can be used to create a social banwagon to move the rest.
Ie, it&#039;s not the first time systems were games
just as a few agitators in the crowd can fire up a riot,a sufficient num of insiders can move the maa]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always trying to see a natural way rather than the trick<br />
independants are th election deciders. Tell the left to register as independants, and come election their voting can be used to create a social banwagon to move the rest.<br />
Ie, it&#8217;s not the first time systems were games<br />
just as a few agitators in the crowd can fire up a riot,a sufficient num of insiders can move the maa</p>
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		By: Soviet of Washington		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/23/growing-numbers-of-independents/#comment-298668</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course JJ, in the Soviet we now have &quot;Prefers Democratic Party&quot; or &quot;Prefers Republican Party&quot; as the party labels on our ballots.  For most our our west-side Republicans, that seems more appropriate anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course JJ, in the Soviet we now have &#8220;Prefers Democratic Party&#8221; or &#8220;Prefers Republican Party&#8221; as the party labels on our ballots.  For most our our west-side Republicans, that seems more appropriate anyway.</p>
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		By: foxmarks		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/23/growing-numbers-of-independents/#comment-298662</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IINO … love it!

From my outpost deep in Progressistan, I don’t come across many independents in meatspace. Even the democrats make sure to state they will enact progressive policy on their campaign literature. A declared Republican hasn’t won my local council or Mayor for over 40 years.

I ran for council a few years back and considered listing myself as a (D) just so people might give my platform a listen.

At the national level, I am with Parker, and despise the Bi-Factional Ruling Party whether they’re wearing the red or the blue jerseys. As politics gets more local, it gets more interesting. People see how those grandiose platform positions make it hard to open a business or redevelop blight. Most often around here, they stick with the platform and wonder why things are so screwed up. They blame the national enemy party for general conditions rather than the local goons who are the ones putting up the largest obstacles.

It is a problem of identity being derived from party politics. My neighbors have to be democrats, or they lose their sense of self. Even a small slide to IINO would be a harsh blow to personality and to their social relationships.

It looks silly to me that today’s university staffers and cubicle operators are so tightly tied to the plight of mineworkers from over 100 years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IINO … love it!</p>
<p>From my outpost deep in Progressistan, I don’t come across many independents in meatspace. Even the democrats make sure to state they will enact progressive policy on their campaign literature. A declared Republican hasn’t won my local council or Mayor for over 40 years.</p>
<p>I ran for council a few years back and considered listing myself as a (D) just so people might give my platform a listen.</p>
<p>At the national level, I am with Parker, and despise the Bi-Factional Ruling Party whether they’re wearing the red or the blue jerseys. As politics gets more local, it gets more interesting. People see how those grandiose platform positions make it hard to open a business or redevelop blight. Most often around here, they stick with the platform and wonder why things are so screwed up. They blame the national enemy party for general conditions rather than the local goons who are the ones putting up the largest obstacles.</p>
<p>It is a problem of identity being derived from party politics. My neighbors have to be democrats, or they lose their sense of self. Even a small slide to IINO would be a harsh blow to personality and to their social relationships.</p>
<p>It looks silly to me that today’s university staffers and cubicle operators are so tightly tied to the plight of mineworkers from over 100 years ago.</p>
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		By: datechguy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 13:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[here in Massachusetts we have IINOs

Our independents pretty much vote democratic, I think a lot of people do this in order to say &quot;I don&#039;t vote the party etc etc etc.&quot;

It&#039;s just a talking point]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here in Massachusetts we have IINOs</p>
<p>Our independents pretty much vote democratic, I think a lot of people do this in order to say &#8220;I don&#8217;t vote the party etc etc etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a talking point</p>
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