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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/08/democrats-enjoying-the-republican-fray/#comment-293453</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Cleaver: good point.  However, I wasn&#039;t really thinking of individuals such as yourself.  I was thinking of pundits and journalists on the left, who have been criticizing Obama for a while from the left and I don&#039;t see them being accused of racism for it---or accusing &lt;i&gt;themselves&lt;/i&gt; of racism, either, now that the shoe is on the other foot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cleaver: good point.  However, I wasn&#8217;t really thinking of individuals such as yourself.  I was thinking of pundits and journalists on the left, who have been criticizing Obama for a while from the left and I don&#8217;t see them being accused of racism for it&#8212;or accusing <i>themselves</i> of racism, either, now that the shoe is on the other foot.</p>
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		By: Cleaver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cleaver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And when did you last hear the old “criticism of Obama is racism” charge? Now that it’s Democrats who’ve been criticizing him as well, funny how that approach has fallen by the wayside.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, no. Not exactly. Those of us who criticize Obama from the left get plenty of this toxic, race-baiting intellectual dishonesty from Obama idolators within our own tribe. But I bet you knew that, neo, as a recovering Democrat!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And when did you last hear the old “criticism of Obama is racism” charge? Now that it’s Democrats who’ve been criticizing him as well, funny how that approach has fallen by the wayside.</i></p>
<p>Well, no. Not exactly. Those of us who criticize Obama from the left get plenty of this toxic, race-baiting intellectual dishonesty from Obama idolators within our own tribe. But I bet you knew that, neo, as a recovering Democrat!</p>
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		By: J.J. formerly Jimmy J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/08/democrats-enjoying-the-republican-fray/#comment-293394</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J. formerly Jimmy J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T asks, &quot;What does THAT tell us?&quot;

That many in the  business world are going Galt?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T asks, &#8220;What does THAT tell us?&#8221;</p>
<p>That many in the  business world are going Galt?</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[anonChicagoan,

Don&#039;t demean anecdotal evidence.  Many people dismiss it, but I find that it has a tendency to reveal the pulse of the nation that the punditocracy tends to ignore.

Another example--- I read several weeks ago an essay from a business consultant who gave presentations.  He noted that the most interesting comments came at the bar in the post-presentation where one attendee said emphatically that his bsuiness had no intention of hiring while Obama was in the White House because he would not contribute in any way to reducing unemployment and to Obama&#039;s reelection.  This was met with silent nods from many of the other businessmen/women in attendance.

What does THAT tell us?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonChicagoan,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t demean anecdotal evidence.  Many people dismiss it, but I find that it has a tendency to reveal the pulse of the nation that the punditocracy tends to ignore.</p>
<p>Another example&#8212; I read several weeks ago an essay from a business consultant who gave presentations.  He noted that the most interesting comments came at the bar in the post-presentation where one attendee said emphatically that his bsuiness had no intention of hiring while Obama was in the White House because he would not contribute in any way to reducing unemployment and to Obama&#8217;s reelection.  This was met with silent nods from many of the other businessmen/women in attendance.</p>
<p>What does THAT tell us?</p>
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		By: anonChicagoan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/08/democrats-enjoying-the-republican-fray/#comment-293385</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 15:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is certainly interesting to list to comments from riders while taking the CTA to and from work.  Not many in the 1% choose to ride with hoi poloi.

Back in 2008 what I heard was almost 100% positive for the Democrat nominee.  Not surprising as we are in Illinois.

Now, however, not so much.  In fact one lady today insisted that the President had committed impeachable offenses and should be kicked out of office.

My goodness, if he has lost the El riders he truly is in a world of hurt.    Granted this is totally anecdotal ... but stilll ... it hast to  be less than encouraging to the kool-aid drinkers such as Tom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is certainly interesting to list to comments from riders while taking the CTA to and from work.  Not many in the 1% choose to ride with hoi poloi.</p>
<p>Back in 2008 what I heard was almost 100% positive for the Democrat nominee.  Not surprising as we are in Illinois.</p>
<p>Now, however, not so much.  In fact one lady today insisted that the President had committed impeachable offenses and should be kicked out of office.</p>
<p>My goodness, if he has lost the El riders he truly is in a world of hurt.    Granted this is totally anecdotal &#8230; but stilll &#8230; it hast to  be less than encouraging to the kool-aid drinkers such as Tom.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/08/democrats-enjoying-the-republican-fray/#comment-293381</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[W/ regard ot the Republican fray, with Romney releasing a barrage against Newt, doesn&#039;t he seem like a Democrat?  I&#039;ve instantly lost much respect for him and Bachmann et. al., not because they criticize Newt, but because they do it in such a way that it seems personally vindictive--i.e., just like the Democrats.

To this point, it seems that Newt alone has had the single-minded vision to realize that the battle is with Obama and the Dems and the damage they have foisted upon this country.  IMO, regardless of what one does not like about Newt this presence of mind makes him stand head and shoulders above any other Republican candidate running in this roller derby of a primary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W/ regard ot the Republican fray, with Romney releasing a barrage against Newt, doesn&#8217;t he seem like a Democrat?  I&#8217;ve instantly lost much respect for him and Bachmann et. al., not because they criticize Newt, but because they do it in such a way that it seems personally vindictive&#8211;i.e., just like the Democrats.</p>
<p>To this point, it seems that Newt alone has had the single-minded vision to realize that the battle is with Obama and the Dems and the damage they have foisted upon this country.  IMO, regardless of what one does not like about Newt this presence of mind makes him stand head and shoulders above any other Republican candidate running in this roller derby of a primary.</p>
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		By: Robert Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a feeling that Newt will be and has been given another chance.  Frankly, Hillary has been given another chance even to the extent that there have been rumors about replacing Obama with Clinton.  Her negative ratings were at least as high as his.  I think people would like to go back the 1990&#039;s.  I think he would struggle against a conservative Southern democtrat, but he will be facing a very liberal Northern democtrat.  He has ego issues where he does seem like the Grinch.  I know it will be a different role because he was an attack dog in the &#039;90s so can he become the charming stateman in the campaign.  That will be the biggest issue.  His divorces are an issue in whether or not he is a jerk because who wants the country run by a jerk.  The media will go after him, but they go after all Republicans and he has experience dealing with it so hopefully he will be better at it then in the &#039;90s.

As far as Mitt, I do not have a problem with Mitt.  I think he is severly happered by the fact that he was the govenor of Mass.  I don&#039;t think it is all that bad that he is responsive to the people who hired him, which was a plus for Clinton and a major negative for Obama.  I&#039;m very confident that he is more conservative than his record in Mass.  

It will definitely be an interesting race, and I hope America wins.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a feeling that Newt will be and has been given another chance.  Frankly, Hillary has been given another chance even to the extent that there have been rumors about replacing Obama with Clinton.  Her negative ratings were at least as high as his.  I think people would like to go back the 1990&#8217;s.  I think he would struggle against a conservative Southern democtrat, but he will be facing a very liberal Northern democtrat.  He has ego issues where he does seem like the Grinch.  I know it will be a different role because he was an attack dog in the &#8217;90s so can he become the charming stateman in the campaign.  That will be the biggest issue.  His divorces are an issue in whether or not he is a jerk because who wants the country run by a jerk.  The media will go after him, but they go after all Republicans and he has experience dealing with it so hopefully he will be better at it then in the &#8217;90s.</p>
<p>As far as Mitt, I do not have a problem with Mitt.  I think he is severly happered by the fact that he was the govenor of Mass.  I don&#8217;t think it is all that bad that he is responsive to the people who hired him, which was a plus for Clinton and a major negative for Obama.  I&#8217;m very confident that he is more conservative than his record in Mass.  </p>
<p>It will definitely be an interesting race, and I hope America wins.</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/12/08/democrats-enjoying-the-republican-fray/#comment-293283</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beverly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 10:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For a taste of how the mediots are going to cover this election, just check out tonight&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Nightline.&lt;/i&gt; ABC did a poisonous, nasty little hit piece on Republicans for &quot;subliminally negative&quot; campaigning. Without, of course, mentioning the Vicious Party&#039;s (and their own) relentless slandering of any and all conservatives.  

You can stream it online: the Thursday, Dec. 8th episode. Note especially the ugly tone McFadden gives to her reading of the intro, as well as the assumption that mainstream Protestant Christians are the equivalent of Torquemada.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a taste of how the mediots are going to cover this election, just check out tonight&#8217;s <i>Nightline.</i> ABC did a poisonous, nasty little hit piece on Republicans for &#8220;subliminally negative&#8221; campaigning. Without, of course, mentioning the Vicious Party&#8217;s (and their own) relentless slandering of any and all conservatives.  </p>
<p>You can stream it online: the Thursday, Dec. 8th episode. Note especially the ugly tone McFadden gives to her reading of the intro, as well as the assumption that mainstream Protestant Christians are the equivalent of Torquemada.</p>
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		By: Gary Rosen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Rosen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 08:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;where was Jeanine Garofolo when Herman Cain was being thrown to the wolves?&quot;

I sympathize, Cindy, but in this case let sleeping, uh, dogs lie.  If Garofalo just keeps her trap shut from now on thati in itself is a tremendous improvement in the quality of life on this planet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;where was Jeanine Garofolo when Herman Cain was being thrown to the wolves?&#8221;</p>
<p>I sympathize, Cindy, but in this case let sleeping, uh, dogs lie.  If Garofalo just keeps her trap shut from now on thati in itself is a tremendous improvement in the quality of life on this planet.</p>
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		By: Parker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 04:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;... funny how that approach has fallen by the wayside.

It will be back 24/7 once the primaries are over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; funny how that approach has fallen by the wayside.</p>
<p>It will be back 24/7 once the primaries are over.</p>
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