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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/29/cain-and-the-women-what-constitutes-enough-proof/#comment-288889</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Cain drops out, or if nominated, loses, then that will among other things validate the smear tactic. Even if he loses for some other reason or combination of reasons.
So we&#039;ll see more of it.
But not applied to dems unless the reps learn from the masters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Cain drops out, or if nominated, loses, then that will among other things validate the smear tactic. Even if he loses for some other reason or combination of reasons.<br />
So we&#8217;ll see more of it.<br />
But not applied to dems unless the reps learn from the masters.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love this new campaign ad from the NRCC, which has pointed out the similarities of the excuses for our economic problems--that blame our people and not Presidential policies-- that were offered by Carter and now by  Obama, and coins the new term for our problems, Carter&#039;s diagnosis of malaise + Obama&#039;s diagnosis of our laziness=were just  &quot;malazy&quot; (http://www.nrsc.org/campaigns/malazy-no-more-bailouts/)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this new campaign ad from the NRCC, which has pointed out the similarities of the excuses for our economic problems&#8211;that blame our people and not Presidential policies&#8211; that were offered by Carter and now by  Obama, and coins the new term for our problems, Carter&#8217;s diagnosis of malaise + Obama&#8217;s diagnosis of our laziness=were just  &#8220;malazy&#8221; (<a href="http://www.nrsc.org/campaigns/malazy-no-more-bailouts/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nrsc.org/campaigns/malazy-no-more-bailouts/</a>)</p>
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		By: br549		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[br549]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, yes. The journolist members. They&#039;re an institution. 

And to this day, the only place I have really ever heard anything about it has been on blogs.

This stuff with Cain has never had to have a particle of truth in it. Whether it does or not, it has worked. Even here.

The left is miraculously behaving well toward Mitt. They loved McCain too, until he become the choice and started campaigning. The attack dogs will go after Mitt as soon as he becomes the candidate, not really before.

Newt should be the one we choose. We can&#039;t all move to New Zealand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes. The journolist members. They&#8217;re an institution. </p>
<p>And to this day, the only place I have really ever heard anything about it has been on blogs.</p>
<p>This stuff with Cain has never had to have a particle of truth in it. Whether it does or not, it has worked. Even here.</p>
<p>The left is miraculously behaving well toward Mitt. They loved McCain too, until he become the choice and started campaigning. The attack dogs will go after Mitt as soon as he becomes the candidate, not really before.</p>
<p>Newt should be the one we choose. We can&#8217;t all move to New Zealand.</p>
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		By: nolanimrod		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/29/cain-and-the-women-what-constitutes-enough-proof/#comment-288323</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nolanimrod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 09:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John McCain, the darling maverick, independent, and bipartisan hero of the New York Times, when he looked to be
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;the Republican nominee,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
was accused on the Times&#039; front page of a long time affair with a lobbyist based upon things a guy thought he heard a staffer say a few years ago.

These days, were Calvin Coolidge running as a Republican, he&#039;d be known as a wild and crazy guy.

Heck - he might even have been accused of running his cigars up his interns&#039; vaginas just to get them to the right level of &lt;em&gt;moist&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain, the darling maverick, independent, and bipartisan hero of the New York Times, when he looked to be</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>the Republican nominee,</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>was accused on the Times&#8217; front page of a long time affair with a lobbyist based upon things a guy thought he heard a staffer say a few years ago.</p>
<p>These days, were Calvin Coolidge running as a Republican, he&#8217;d be known as a wild and crazy guy.</p>
<p>Heck &#8211; he might even have been accused of running his cigars up his interns&#8217; vaginas just to get them to the right level of <em>moist</em>.</p>
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		By: Don Janousek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Janousek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 06:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Incitatus 2012!  And he would be running against his own rear end. (NoBama).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incitatus 2012!  And he would be running against his own rear end. (NoBama).</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beverly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 06:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the Politics of Personal Destruction gang weren&#039;t running an extended version of the old &lt;b&gt;&quot;badger game.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

From Wickedpedia: &quot;The badger game is an extortion scheme, often perpetrated on married men, in which the victim or &quot;mark&quot; is tricked into a compromising position to make him vulnerable to blackmail.&quot;

All famous and wealthy men are prospective targets. Buster Keaton was in his dressing room one day when a young woman burst in (her mother lurked just outside). She threw her arms around him and kissed him, and he, smelling a rat, said, &quot;You&#039;d better flag your ass out of here right quick.&quot; But she started yelling &quot;Rape!&quot; and clawing him and herself, tearing her clothing to make it look like he&#039;d assaulted her. Luckily for Buster, stagehands were around to see the attempted con and break it up, tossing the two out on their ears.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the Politics of Personal Destruction gang weren&#8217;t running an extended version of the old <b>&#8220;badger game.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>From Wickedpedia: &#8220;The badger game is an extortion scheme, often perpetrated on married men, in which the victim or &#8220;mark&#8221; is tricked into a compromising position to make him vulnerable to blackmail.&#8221;</p>
<p>All famous and wealthy men are prospective targets. Buster Keaton was in his dressing room one day when a young woman burst in (her mother lurked just outside). She threw her arms around him and kissed him, and he, smelling a rat, said, &#8220;You&#8217;d better flag your ass out of here right quick.&#8221; But she started yelling &#8220;Rape!&#8221; and clawing him and herself, tearing her clothing to make it look like he&#8217;d assaulted her. Luckily for Buster, stagehands were around to see the attempted con and break it up, tossing the two out on their ears.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/29/cain-and-the-women-what-constitutes-enough-proof/#comment-288257</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 06:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.teapartyexpress.org/

Cain may be retired. Don&#039;t think it&#039;s the end of the biggest bloc of voters in America. We will win and we will preserve the West. Why? What is it the East wants but the freedom and prosperity of the West. Ultimately, the East are just people who will reject the same ideas and forms which have kept them down. It is already happening and cannot be prevented. The EU is failing and its failure, like Islam&#039;s, will, like a window opened upon a smoke filled room, clear the air. The future is not, and never can be, the domain of evil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.teapartyexpress.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.teapartyexpress.org/</a></p>
<p>Cain may be retired. Don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the end of the biggest bloc of voters in America. We will win and we will preserve the West. Why? What is it the East wants but the freedom and prosperity of the West. Ultimately, the East are just people who will reject the same ideas and forms which have kept them down. It is already happening and cannot be prevented. The EU is failing and its failure, like Islam&#8217;s, will, like a window opened upon a smoke filled room, clear the air. The future is not, and never can be, the domain of evil.</p>
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		By: gcotharn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gcotharn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 05:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;milli Edwards ... deci Kennedys ... and Franks&quot;. LOL

Thank goodness that Weiner Units are also inapplicable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;milli Edwards &#8230; deci Kennedys &#8230; and Franks&#8221;. LOL</p>
<p>Thank goodness that Weiner Units are also inapplicable.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good point on Cain&#039;s steadfast and stalwart opposition to Islam. 

The collapse may not wait until the election.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point on Cain&#8217;s steadfast and stalwart opposition to Islam. </p>
<p>The collapse may not wait until the election.</p>
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		By: foxmarks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foxmarks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would have been nice to see Cain’s strengths and weaknesses more thoroughly evaluated. Just as Neo points out the lousy, non-inquisitive reporting on these character attacks, there was lousy non-inquisitive reporting on the bulk of what Cain offered the country.

It is a meme now that he was not prepared for the sex allegations. How can one prepare for stories that somebody made up? He could study foreign policy, but how can he study for the imaginations of broke and desperate women?

And on his foreign policy, clearly his weak point, it is silly to hold that he wasn’t interested in it before he decided to run. Defense and counterattack against Islamofascists has been part of his shtick for years. That’s implicitly a foreign policy concern.

Another meme, that his campaign is bumbling and fumbling, was an opinion in search of facts. He got to the top of the heap, and a lot of people have heard of 9-9-9 (even if they haven’t bothered to learn much about it). The sex stuff provided facts to support the meme. But the logic there has to depend on the allegations being significantly true. If he had skeletons and thought they would stay hid, he made a grave error. If the claims are baseless, then I don’t see how the campaign has mishandled the situation in any catastrophic way. Sure, hindsight and having the conventional politician’s toolkit ready would have made the responses smoother. But reacting in a slick manner would have compromised what I think was the essence of his strength: authenticity.

If anyone can actually come up with real evidence that Cain was a man ruled by his own testicles, all my words are void. Since I am projecting a collapse no matter who wins the Presidency, a strong and steady character is essential. Too bad all the rest of the good people in the race (Santorum, Bachmann, Paul) have already been dismissed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would have been nice to see Cain’s strengths and weaknesses more thoroughly evaluated. Just as Neo points out the lousy, non-inquisitive reporting on these character attacks, there was lousy non-inquisitive reporting on the bulk of what Cain offered the country.</p>
<p>It is a meme now that he was not prepared for the sex allegations. How can one prepare for stories that somebody made up? He could study foreign policy, but how can he study for the imaginations of broke and desperate women?</p>
<p>And on his foreign policy, clearly his weak point, it is silly to hold that he wasn’t interested in it before he decided to run. Defense and counterattack against Islamofascists has been part of his shtick for years. That’s implicitly a foreign policy concern.</p>
<p>Another meme, that his campaign is bumbling and fumbling, was an opinion in search of facts. He got to the top of the heap, and a lot of people have heard of 9-9-9 (even if they haven’t bothered to learn much about it). The sex stuff provided facts to support the meme. But the logic there has to depend on the allegations being significantly true. If he had skeletons and thought they would stay hid, he made a grave error. If the claims are baseless, then I don’t see how the campaign has mishandled the situation in any catastrophic way. Sure, hindsight and having the conventional politician’s toolkit ready would have made the responses smoother. But reacting in a slick manner would have compromised what I think was the essence of his strength: authenticity.</p>
<p>If anyone can actually come up with real evidence that Cain was a man ruled by his own testicles, all my words are void. Since I am projecting a collapse no matter who wins the Presidency, a strong and steady character is essential. Too bad all the rest of the good people in the race (Santorum, Bachmann, Paul) have already been dismissed.</p>
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