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		By: ErisGuy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-283798</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ErisGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think there’s another very basic need, one that perhaps can only really be appreciated when it is lost: liberty.&quot;

Very nice. And how many generations will pass until one of my or one of your descendants reading about the end of modernity and collapse of the country formerly know as America, reads the Federalist Papers or Paine, has liberty born in his heart?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think there’s another very basic need, one that perhaps can only really be appreciated when it is lost: liberty.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very nice. And how many generations will pass until one of my or one of your descendants reading about the end of modernity and collapse of the country formerly know as America, reads the Federalist Papers or Paine, has liberty born in his heart?</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-283555</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ErisGuy: &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2006/04/13/in-celebration-of-freedom-passover-and/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ErisGuy: <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2006/04/13/in-celebration-of-freedom-passover-and/" rel="nofollow">see this</a>.</p>
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		By: ErisGuy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-283434</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ErisGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Both political parties will represent the will of the American people. Let&#039;s examine that will.

Do the American people teach in their schools and colleges their proud history of liberty, of self-reliance, of independence? No they do not. Instead children are taught that America is a racist, sexist, homophobic nation founded by slavers; that it is the worst of all countries.

Do the American politicians admire Washington, Jefferson, or Paine? No they do not. Gore couldn&#039;t recognize the busts of the founding fathers. Obama hangs Mao ornaments on the White House Christmas tree and kisses Chavez.

Do the American intelligentsia admire America? No. Spielberg, creator of the most widely seen movies in America, admires Castro. Ayers, the presidential advisor admires Mao.

In my town, the people organizing to vote for Obama flew the Cuban flag at the Democratic party HQ. Several other countries flags also put in appearances.

It has been decades since I have met anyone personally who has more than a passing familiarity with American history. Nearly all of them admire and to emulate Lenin, Castro, Ortega, Chavez, etc. to achieve social justice, end capitalism, and bring about a green future.

Both Republican and Democrat parties will express the will of the people. And the people admire, whether they recognize it or not, fascism, nazism, socialism, and communism. They do not wish to be free.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both political parties will represent the will of the American people. Let&#8217;s examine that will.</p>
<p>Do the American people teach in their schools and colleges their proud history of liberty, of self-reliance, of independence? No they do not. Instead children are taught that America is a racist, sexist, homophobic nation founded by slavers; that it is the worst of all countries.</p>
<p>Do the American politicians admire Washington, Jefferson, or Paine? No they do not. Gore couldn&#8217;t recognize the busts of the founding fathers. Obama hangs Mao ornaments on the White House Christmas tree and kisses Chavez.</p>
<p>Do the American intelligentsia admire America? No. Spielberg, creator of the most widely seen movies in America, admires Castro. Ayers, the presidential advisor admires Mao.</p>
<p>In my town, the people organizing to vote for Obama flew the Cuban flag at the Democratic party HQ. Several other countries flags also put in appearances.</p>
<p>It has been decades since I have met anyone personally who has more than a passing familiarity with American history. Nearly all of them admire and to emulate Lenin, Castro, Ortega, Chavez, etc. to achieve social justice, end capitalism, and bring about a green future.</p>
<p>Both Republican and Democrat parties will express the will of the people. And the people admire, whether they recognize it or not, fascism, nazism, socialism, and communism. They do not wish to be free.</p>
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		By: foxmarks		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-283257</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foxmarks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[kolnai spots the flaw I see in Romney. He’s a 1%-er. A finance guy. He business credentials were made at Bain &lt;i&gt;Capital&lt;/i&gt;.

That’s what makes him a member of the bi-factional ruling party. He has a ruling-class pedigree.OWS may have collapsed, but at the beginning they were tapping into a very popular sentiment.

Please don’t read this me supporting OWS or being against capitalism. The problem is &lt;i&gt;crony&lt;/i&gt; capitalism.

The case Romney hasn’t made–and will need to make–is that he is not owned by the banksters. How many ex-Goldmanites will be in his inner circle?

Romney separates himself from the field by accepting the current crappy tax system. All he wants to do is jigger with it. Which in context of comments above, is pandering to the squishy middle. They’re the cheapest votes to buy (good business sense!), and they always seem to fall for it.

Obama ran on Hope and Change. Romney is offering the Soothing Status Quo. A relief to those who hated the changes, but a disappointed who want more than just a pause in the statist ratchet.

Can the facts of Romneycare be spun to paint Mitt as a tool of Big Pharma or Big Insurance?

And on the healthcare topic, He may indeed follow through on his promised 50-State waiver. But what will he end up signing as a replacement for Obamacare? Because Congress will not just let it become void. They are the bi-factional ruling party, and they all think the people expect them to do something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kolnai spots the flaw I see in Romney. He’s a 1%-er. A finance guy. He business credentials were made at Bain <i>Capital</i>.</p>
<p>That’s what makes him a member of the bi-factional ruling party. He has a ruling-class pedigree.OWS may have collapsed, but at the beginning they were tapping into a very popular sentiment.</p>
<p>Please don’t read this me supporting OWS or being against capitalism. The problem is <i>crony</i> capitalism.</p>
<p>The case Romney hasn’t made–and will need to make–is that he is not owned by the banksters. How many ex-Goldmanites will be in his inner circle?</p>
<p>Romney separates himself from the field by accepting the current crappy tax system. All he wants to do is jigger with it. Which in context of comments above, is pandering to the squishy middle. They’re the cheapest votes to buy (good business sense!), and they always seem to fall for it.</p>
<p>Obama ran on Hope and Change. Romney is offering the Soothing Status Quo. A relief to those who hated the changes, but a disappointed who want more than just a pause in the statist ratchet.</p>
<p>Can the facts of Romneycare be spun to paint Mitt as a tool of Big Pharma or Big Insurance?</p>
<p>And on the healthcare topic, He may indeed follow through on his promised 50-State waiver. But what will he end up signing as a replacement for Obamacare? Because Congress will not just let it become void. They are the bi-factional ruling party, and they all think the people expect them to do something.</p>
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		By: gcotharn		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-283167</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gcotharn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;he was a trifle wistful, and low-key in a sort of intense way&quot;

This seems, to me, an excellent descrip of of a moment in human development in which a little girl has built in and intense feelings of love - feelings which are bursting for expression - yet does not yet have built in feelings of lust.  Thus: a wistful and low key intense Henry Fonda!

re Steve H&#039;s beautiful people: 

I have had this experience. In a room full of beautiful people, entered a mid 20s couple who were as Greek Gods: they were so far beyond a normal scale of beauty, it was incredible. The woman was 5&#039;10&quot;+. The beauty of the couple stunned the room.  I could only look away with greatest exhibit of personal discipline.  When I looked away, everything inside me was compelling me to look back at them. Even the man: even him, I could barely take my eyes off of him. He was like a great and giant stallion. It was stunning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he was a trifle wistful, and low-key in a sort of intense way&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems, to me, an excellent descrip of of a moment in human development in which a little girl has built in and intense feelings of love &#8211; feelings which are bursting for expression &#8211; yet does not yet have built in feelings of lust.  Thus: a wistful and low key intense Henry Fonda!</p>
<p>re Steve H&#8217;s beautiful people: </p>
<p>I have had this experience. In a room full of beautiful people, entered a mid 20s couple who were as Greek Gods: they were so far beyond a normal scale of beauty, it was incredible. The woman was 5&#8217;10&#8243;+. The beauty of the couple stunned the room.  I could only look away with greatest exhibit of personal discipline.  When I looked away, everything inside me was compelling me to look back at them. Even the man: even him, I could barely take my eyes off of him. He was like a great and giant stallion. It was stunning.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-283108</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 12:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recall sitting at the bar in a pub not long ago and a couple walked in that looked like they stepped out of a GQ magazine. They were beautiful to the point of unusually so. You could feel the uneasiness it caused patrons and waitresses alike. Most people really do decide what a person is like on the inside just from outward appearance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall sitting at the bar in a pub not long ago and a couple walked in that looked like they stepped out of a GQ magazine. They were beautiful to the point of unusually so. You could feel the uneasiness it caused patrons and waitresses alike. Most people really do decide what a person is like on the inside just from outward appearance.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-283002</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[gcotharn: I like dissent---as long as it&#039;s well-reasoned, relatively polite dissent.

But I have to say I don&#039;t think George Clooney is all that handsome.  So go figure.  On the other hand, Paul Newman &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; handsome, in a really good way.  But some of my favorite actors are not conventionally handsome at all.  For instance, my first crush on an actor was on, of all people, Robert Preston, after I saw him in the stage version of &quot;The Music Man&quot; when I was a little girl.  As I said, go figure.

I think it was his energy that drew me.  Then again, as a little girl I also adored Henry Fonda in &quot;Drums Along the Mohawk,&quot; and he was a trifle wistful, and low-key in a sort of intense way. 

And speaking of Henry Fonda and &quot;Drums,&quot; I can&#039;t resist (these are scenes from the trailer):

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gcotharn: I like dissent&#8212;as long as it&#8217;s well-reasoned, relatively polite dissent.</p>
<p>But I have to say I don&#8217;t think George Clooney is all that handsome.  So go figure.  On the other hand, Paul Newman <i>was</i> handsome, in a really good way.  But some of my favorite actors are not conventionally handsome at all.  For instance, my first crush on an actor was on, of all people, Robert Preston, after I saw him in the stage version of &#8220;The Music Man&#8221; when I was a little girl.  As I said, go figure.</p>
<p>I think it was his energy that drew me.  Then again, as a little girl I also adored Henry Fonda in &#8220;Drums Along the Mohawk,&#8221; and he was a trifle wistful, and low-key in a sort of intense way. </p>
<p>And speaking of Henry Fonda and &#8220;Drums,&#8221; I can&#8217;t resist (these are scenes from the trailer):</p>
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		By: gcotharn		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-282862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gcotharn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, the problem, here, is mine: I did not understand the definition of &quot;soupcon&quot;, and did not look up the word. My apology. I could have been more fastidious; or, possibly, a student of either French or Latin, and was none of those things. 

Separately, speaking only for myself: 

I will grant that there might be a manly prejudice against good looking men. However, if such prejudice exists: in my own life, I have not noticed that other men have this prejudice against good looking men. 

Also, I guess it is just me, but it had not occurred to me that Romney is &quot;almost unnaturally good-looking&quot;. I take your word for it. I just look past that stuff. I notice, of course, that Romney is attractive and is clean cut and is virile; I even notice he has a Hollywood strong jaw. But, I must admit that I never know what women will like in any particular man&#039;s looks. Unless a man is widely acclaimed as handsome, such as George Clooney, then I never really know which men are considered handsome. You probably find this difficult to believe.  But, I have, many times, assumed that certain men were either attractive or unattractive, only to be informed that I was completely misguided. 

Thank you for allowing all the dissenting comment opinions on your blog. It is part of what I love about this blog.  Not all bloggers will allow it to the extent which you allow it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, the problem, here, is mine: I did not understand the definition of &#8220;soupcon&#8221;, and did not look up the word. My apology. I could have been more fastidious; or, possibly, a student of either French or Latin, and was none of those things. </p>
<p>Separately, speaking only for myself: </p>
<p>I will grant that there might be a manly prejudice against good looking men. However, if such prejudice exists: in my own life, I have not noticed that other men have this prejudice against good looking men. </p>
<p>Also, I guess it is just me, but it had not occurred to me that Romney is &#8220;almost unnaturally good-looking&#8221;. I take your word for it. I just look past that stuff. I notice, of course, that Romney is attractive and is clean cut and is virile; I even notice he has a Hollywood strong jaw. But, I must admit that I never know what women will like in any particular man&#8217;s looks. Unless a man is widely acclaimed as handsome, such as George Clooney, then I never really know which men are considered handsome. You probably find this difficult to believe.  But, I have, many times, assumed that certain men were either attractive or unattractive, only to be informed that I was completely misguided. </p>
<p>Thank you for allowing all the dissenting comment opinions on your blog. It is part of what I love about this blog.  Not all bloggers will allow it to the extent which you allow it.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-282846</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[gcothcarn: did you actually read what I wrote?

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s certainly not the only reason–some of the objections are valid–but I’ve noticed a soupcon of Romney Derangement Syndrome that I think can be at least partly explained by his extreme smoothness and almost preternatural good looks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;Some of the objections are valid&quot; is the acknowledgment that some of the objections to Romney are NOT due to RDS.  Also, there&#039;s the qualifier, &quot;soupcon&quot; which means a little bit.

And it&#039;s not that he&#039;s good-looking.  It&#039;s that he&#039;s smoothly and almost unnaturally good-looking.  And &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; of the dislike for him is indeed about that, IMHO, because it&#039;s not considered a good or trustworthy trait especially in a man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gcothcarn: did you actually read what I wrote?</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s certainly not the only reason–some of the objections are valid–but I’ve noticed a soupcon of Romney Derangement Syndrome that I think can be at least partly explained by his extreme smoothness and almost preternatural good looks.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Some of the objections are valid&#8221; is the acknowledgment that some of the objections to Romney are NOT due to RDS.  Also, there&#8217;s the qualifier, &#8220;soupcon&#8221; which means a little bit.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not that he&#8217;s good-looking.  It&#8217;s that he&#8217;s smoothly and almost unnaturally good-looking.  And <i>some</i> of the dislike for him is indeed about that, IMHO, because it&#8217;s not considered a good or trustworthy trait especially in a man.</p>
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		By: gcotharn		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/11/17/im-with-ann-coulter-on-romney-and-romneycare/#comment-282838</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gcotharn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Addendum: 

Glibness is okay, even necessary. It can even be good, i.e. in instances where it is humorous.  

Yet, glibness is not okay when it is consistently used as a shield of deceptiveness. Such is unattractive.  We are not running a contest for the most glib candidate. 

Romney, when challenged, too often uses glibness to disguise that he is a frightened rabbit. This predilection is part of the reason the electorate has not warmed up to Romney.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum: </p>
<p>Glibness is okay, even necessary. It can even be good, i.e. in instances where it is humorous.  </p>
<p>Yet, glibness is not okay when it is consistently used as a shield of deceptiveness. Such is unattractive.  We are not running a contest for the most glib candidate. </p>
<p>Romney, when challenged, too often uses glibness to disguise that he is a frightened rabbit. This predilection is part of the reason the electorate has not warmed up to Romney.</p>
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