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		By: gaetano		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Come on people ,don&#039;t believe everything that anyone says in government.Obama would eliminate any person in his way,one way or the other. You should all know that his administration is no different then the Al Capone mob. They have a motto &quot;why take the chance&quot;.Democrats are trying to say that no canidate has presidential experience. What the hell did Obama have?This next election will be a slaughter to remember. He is finished.They know it,Iknow it, the republicans know it, and everyone else is praying for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on people ,don&#8217;t believe everything that anyone says in government.Obama would eliminate any person in his way,one way or the other. You should all know that his administration is no different then the Al Capone mob. They have a motto &#8220;why take the chance&#8221;.Democrats are trying to say that no canidate has presidential experience. What the hell did Obama have?This next election will be a slaughter to remember. He is finished.They know it,Iknow it, the republicans know it, and everyone else is praying for it.</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 15:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The woman, who will be the first to go public on Monday, sought Cain&#039;s help with an employment issue and was allegedly sexually harassed by him. Allred and her client will discuss, in detail, what she alleges occurred with Cain.&quot;

Gloria! Gloria! Gloria!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The woman, who will be the first to go public on Monday, sought Cain&#8217;s help with an employment issue and was allegedly sexually harassed by him. Allred and her client will discuss, in detail, what she alleges occurred with Cain.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gloria! Gloria! Gloria!</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It does not matter who the source is, as no one who is looking to use the point as a fulcrum cares if its valid or not valid. from mike lupica, stanley crouch, richard cohen, tantaros...

mike lupica&#039;s hatchet job is EXTREME in its piss and vinegar and innuendo. personally at what point is what they write actionable? As we have lupica writing as if the tea party existed before Obama was even elected!

&lt;i&gt;Herman Cain’s self-made mess: He allowed an old sex scandal  to resurface by mishandling the media 
&lt;/i&gt;

Says Andrea Tantaros.. 

NEVER ONCE musing that a press that says what it wants without any regard for any validity, and who has it out for people along party lines, can be handled at all by someone who is their target. 

with her the scandal is not the scandal its even bigger than that...  

&lt;i&gt;One of Cain&#039;s accusers said Wednesday night that she will not come forward with her story. That&#039;s pressure off Cain, but expect a drumbeat of new details until he gives a definitive version of events - and gets back to campaigning.
&lt;/i&gt;

Does it matter what &quot;definitive&quot; version is given? the feminists never believe that its not the mans fault, even if the evidence exonerates them fully.. and do not pronounce guilty if the evidence is inescapable.  (heads i win tails you lose politics)

whatever version he puts out can only be compared in hearsay, and as a good feminist, they are accepting womens hearsay as evidential. they do that in court too, along with hearsay from friends being allowed as witness information AS IF they were present. (regardless of ones incredulity or disbelief, this IS how it is)

Witnesses who do not show their faces, make unprovable allegations, and so on and so forth, are believed with a higher level than others and so trump all others in 1 to 1. 

[the ONLY defense is to stay away from them, as there is no way to identify the nut job from the reasonable. its like looking for landmines with a hammer]

&lt;i&gt;After all, a properly managed sex scandal will go away. Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones – a state employee when he was the governor of Arkansas – $850,000 to settle sexual harassment charges. The mainstream media told us it was a personal matter, a distraction that we should ignore.
&lt;/i&gt;

and her example is a person the press loves for his communism.. for his going to soviet Russia as an exchange student rather than go to Vietnam... for his soviet nickname... 

All these articles do their job by pretending an equality that is presumed but does not exist, and so they can be faulted for not behaving the same... (when if they did it would be worse)

meanwhile.. 
we are on the eve of nasty... 
and nothing at all has happened to change the course of things in any meaningful way, and people are only barely waking up before the door is closed... 

the OWS has devolved to a matriarchy with the women in their tents with no protectors but their numbers, the men not their providers and protectors and so their predators... and so they in microcosm have EXACTLY the world of the noble savage they are fighting for but are too short sighted to see it. 

the very fact that without modern capitalist individualist society... women evolved differently as they were always INSIDE apart from the world... 

either they were inside the family, which they shared a common settlements society inside apart from the world. 

or, if somewhat matriarchy... they lived inside a hostile area inside a even more hostile area... 

the ONLY time in human history it was otherwise was here in the US and western culture AFTER we stopped wandering built society had the magna carter and the US constitution and so on...

you see what kept such a society free wasnt the paper, wasnt the rules, laws or games. 

it was the fact that the individuals out there were free AND capable, and were raised to be such by their FAMILIES (ie the moms who didnt think they existed for themselves as the end of 15 billion years of evolutionary work). 

there was no way to control or to force them because they were independent and would self organize into a functional thing that would be a power to oppose... 

today? they are legends in their mind as they have a high score in zelda, but they cant even organize a basic living area without devolving into a nomadic predatory thing.. 

the world they are making will be like that... 

they cant make better.. 
they are crippled 
(by their mothers mostly - dads were not there and havs not been for 40 years)

the odd thing is what they hold in their mind as the reality that will happen upon the achievement of workers paradise and the absolute power of their side.. 

does mike lupica think that with socialism there will be economy and anything at all like opinion press? 

they all think that their loyalty will be rewarded with a place etched out for them in the plan that they will enjoy some greater form of what they have. 

in such a society the state has absolutely NO USE for politically manipulative writers... 

none whatsoever.. they only have use for writers who can pass on the party line in artful form, and who have no celebrity or public knowing as that is a form of power to act independently and not be accessible for punishment for a while

does he think that once things change he will be allowed to continue to write in any vein like he does now? same for Stanly crouch... or how about the feminist leaders who think that soviets promised them parity. when they have no place in that kind of state other than a show place token thing...  they are confused that they have less of a place at the table with obama than before!!! but they have yet to believe that they, the users have been used by higher users...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not matter who the source is, as no one who is looking to use the point as a fulcrum cares if its valid or not valid. from mike lupica, stanley crouch, richard cohen, tantaros&#8230;</p>
<p>mike lupica&#8217;s hatchet job is EXTREME in its piss and vinegar and innuendo. personally at what point is what they write actionable? As we have lupica writing as if the tea party existed before Obama was even elected!</p>
<p><i>Herman Cain’s self-made mess: He allowed an old sex scandal  to resurface by mishandling the media<br />
</i></p>
<p>Says Andrea Tantaros.. </p>
<p>NEVER ONCE musing that a press that says what it wants without any regard for any validity, and who has it out for people along party lines, can be handled at all by someone who is their target. </p>
<p>with her the scandal is not the scandal its even bigger than that&#8230;  </p>
<p><i>One of Cain&#8217;s accusers said Wednesday night that she will not come forward with her story. That&#8217;s pressure off Cain, but expect a drumbeat of new details until he gives a definitive version of events &#8211; and gets back to campaigning.<br />
</i></p>
<p>Does it matter what &#8220;definitive&#8221; version is given? the feminists never believe that its not the mans fault, even if the evidence exonerates them fully.. and do not pronounce guilty if the evidence is inescapable.  (heads i win tails you lose politics)</p>
<p>whatever version he puts out can only be compared in hearsay, and as a good feminist, they are accepting womens hearsay as evidential. they do that in court too, along with hearsay from friends being allowed as witness information AS IF they were present. (regardless of ones incredulity or disbelief, this IS how it is)</p>
<p>Witnesses who do not show their faces, make unprovable allegations, and so on and so forth, are believed with a higher level than others and so trump all others in 1 to 1. </p>
<p>[the ONLY defense is to stay away from them, as there is no way to identify the nut job from the reasonable. its like looking for landmines with a hammer]</p>
<p><i>After all, a properly managed sex scandal will go away. Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones – a state employee when he was the governor of Arkansas – $850,000 to settle sexual harassment charges. The mainstream media told us it was a personal matter, a distraction that we should ignore.<br />
</i></p>
<p>and her example is a person the press loves for his communism.. for his going to soviet Russia as an exchange student rather than go to Vietnam&#8230; for his soviet nickname&#8230; </p>
<p>All these articles do their job by pretending an equality that is presumed but does not exist, and so they can be faulted for not behaving the same&#8230; (when if they did it would be worse)</p>
<p>meanwhile..<br />
we are on the eve of nasty&#8230;<br />
and nothing at all has happened to change the course of things in any meaningful way, and people are only barely waking up before the door is closed&#8230; </p>
<p>the OWS has devolved to a matriarchy with the women in their tents with no protectors but their numbers, the men not their providers and protectors and so their predators&#8230; and so they in microcosm have EXACTLY the world of the noble savage they are fighting for but are too short sighted to see it. </p>
<p>the very fact that without modern capitalist individualist society&#8230; women evolved differently as they were always INSIDE apart from the world&#8230; </p>
<p>either they were inside the family, which they shared a common settlements society inside apart from the world. </p>
<p>or, if somewhat matriarchy&#8230; they lived inside a hostile area inside a even more hostile area&#8230; </p>
<p>the ONLY time in human history it was otherwise was here in the US and western culture AFTER we stopped wandering built society had the magna carter and the US constitution and so on&#8230;</p>
<p>you see what kept such a society free wasnt the paper, wasnt the rules, laws or games. </p>
<p>it was the fact that the individuals out there were free AND capable, and were raised to be such by their FAMILIES (ie the moms who didnt think they existed for themselves as the end of 15 billion years of evolutionary work). </p>
<p>there was no way to control or to force them because they were independent and would self organize into a functional thing that would be a power to oppose&#8230; </p>
<p>today? they are legends in their mind as they have a high score in zelda, but they cant even organize a basic living area without devolving into a nomadic predatory thing.. </p>
<p>the world they are making will be like that&#8230; </p>
<p>they cant make better..<br />
they are crippled<br />
(by their mothers mostly &#8211; dads were not there and havs not been for 40 years)</p>
<p>the odd thing is what they hold in their mind as the reality that will happen upon the achievement of workers paradise and the absolute power of their side.. </p>
<p>does mike lupica think that with socialism there will be economy and anything at all like opinion press? </p>
<p>they all think that their loyalty will be rewarded with a place etched out for them in the plan that they will enjoy some greater form of what they have. </p>
<p>in such a society the state has absolutely NO USE for politically manipulative writers&#8230; </p>
<p>none whatsoever.. they only have use for writers who can pass on the party line in artful form, and who have no celebrity or public knowing as that is a form of power to act independently and not be accessible for punishment for a while</p>
<p>does he think that once things change he will be allowed to continue to write in any vein like he does now? same for Stanly crouch&#8230; or how about the feminist leaders who think that soviets promised them parity. when they have no place in that kind of state other than a show place token thing&#8230;  they are confused that they have less of a place at the table with obama than before!!! but they have yet to believe that they, the users have been used by higher users&#8230;</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 03:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting look at the issue by Ann Althouse

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/11/why-publish-story-then-when-you-couldnt.html

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/11/note-to-cain-accuser-saying-very.html

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/11/woman-said-to-have-felt-hostility-at.html

Seems Ann has the most clarity of all the bloggers I&#039;m reading. Bill Kristol is just about unreadable anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting look at the issue by Ann Althouse</p>
<p><a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/11/why-publish-story-then-when-you-couldnt.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/11/why-publish-story-then-when-you-couldnt.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/11/note-to-cain-accuser-saying-very.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/11/note-to-cain-accuser-saying-very.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/11/woman-said-to-have-felt-hostility-at.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/11/woman-said-to-have-felt-hostility-at.html</a></p>
<p>Seems Ann has the most clarity of all the bloggers I&#8217;m reading. Bill Kristol is just about unreadable anymore.</p>
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		By: MissJean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MissJean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, you hit the nail on the head of the thing that has bothered me most: Politico&#039;s playing around.  It reminds me of a high school drama queen who has the dirt on someone and drops hints in every direction, just to prolong the agony.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, you hit the nail on the head of the thing that has bothered me most: Politico&#8217;s playing around.  It reminds me of a high school drama queen who has the dirt on someone and drops hints in every direction, just to prolong the agony.</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oops. I didn&#039;t do end blockquote after the first paragraph. sorry]]></description>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,

I hope you aren&#039;t Cained out. See this interesting take from David Brooks.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/05/david-brooks-cain-nothing-more-than-an-entertaining-very-likable-tv-show/

David Brooks says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;“There was no beginning,” Brooks said. “He was a TV show that lasted for a little while. Let me stand up for elitist insiders – this is a job for professionals. Running for office is a job for professionals. Governing is a job for professionals.

This... is... the same dumbass who voted for Obama. Professional??? David Brooks needs to be made unprofessional. He needs his profession taken away from him ... to live on the streets&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,</p>
<p>I hope you aren&#8217;t Cained out. See this interesting take from David Brooks.</p>
<p><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/05/david-brooks-cain-nothing-more-than-an-entertaining-very-likable-tv-show/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/05/david-brooks-cain-nothing-more-than-an-entertaining-very-likable-tv-show/</a></p>
<p>David Brooks says:</p>
<blockquote><p>“There was no beginning,” Brooks said. “He was a TV show that lasted for a little while. Let me stand up for elitist insiders – this is a job for professionals. Running for office is a job for professionals. Governing is a job for professionals.</p>
<p>This&#8230; is&#8230; the same dumbass who voted for Obama. Professional??? David Brooks needs to be made unprofessional. He needs his profession taken away from him &#8230; to live on the streets</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Point very well made. One of your best, neo.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Savvy Americans instinctively know that unsavvy Americans voted for Obama because pop culture media convinced them the need to prove they&#039;re not racist. Herman Cain is the natural antidote to this issue. And it&#039;s a front and center major issue for national politics in the way it has cloaked progressive/commies in downtrodden camouflage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Savvy Americans instinctively know that unsavvy Americans voted for Obama because pop culture media convinced them the need to prove they&#8217;re not racist. Herman Cain is the natural antidote to this issue. And it&#8217;s a front and center major issue for national politics in the way it has cloaked progressive/commies in downtrodden camouflage.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Rosen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone who has read what I think of BO knows that I certainly wouldn&#039;t put it past him to be behind the attacks on Cain.  However I think there is something broader going on.  Dems and libs believe they own all identity groups - blacks, women, Hispanics, gays - and any member of one of those groups that doesn&#039;t stay on the plantation (deliberate metaphor though mixed in the case of non-blacks) has to be destroyed.  That was absolutely a key motivation for the astonishing vitriol directed at Sarah Palin, and potential VP or future POTUS candidate Rubio is already starting to get some of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has read what I think of BO knows that I certainly wouldn&#8217;t put it past him to be behind the attacks on Cain.  However I think there is something broader going on.  Dems and libs believe they own all identity groups &#8211; blacks, women, Hispanics, gays &#8211; and any member of one of those groups that doesn&#8217;t stay on the plantation (deliberate metaphor though mixed in the case of non-blacks) has to be destroyed.  That was absolutely a key motivation for the astonishing vitriol directed at Sarah Palin, and potential VP or future POTUS candidate Rubio is already starting to get some of it.</p>
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