Comments on: Herman Cain and the sexual harrassment allegations

By: Foxfier

Foxfier — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 20:38:13 +0000

I don’t need to be referred to somebody as needing to ‘learn’ how to use a mouse.

His(?) suggestion was on how to use the scroll BAR at the side of the screen, not the mouse. You were the one talking about the mouse scroll.

There’s a third thing that is hard for people to do, related to your second one– put forth a tiny bit of extra effort to make someone else’s day nicer, rather than a lot of effort to strike back at them daring to annoy you.
You could have done that by moving your hand over an inch or three and hitting the “page down” key a few times. Instead, you’ve taken the extra effort of three whole posts to make it worse.

Given that you clearly value your own entitled sense of “respect” above taking a tiny step to let someone do something that makes them happy, I’m more sympathetic to Artfldgr than I have been in weeks.

By: Baklava

Baklava — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:41:56 +0000

Foxfier,

I’ve been here for years.

It’s fairly reasonable to see that his comments are EXCESSIVE.

I like him.

I simply asking him to cut them shorter and make them more concise.

I don’t need to be referred to somebody as needing to ‘learn’ how to use a mouse.

It’s reasonable for me to think that he can make his comments shorter.

Or I can do what I’ve been doing the last few months and frequent the comments section less often…

There are two things that are hard to do in life for humans:
1) Hear another human being – There are a few humans who have commented on the length of these comments.

2) Treat each other with respect – It is reasonable and respectful for me to ask someone to shorten the comments as a frequent commenter and reader. It is not reasonable to treat me as if I don’t know how to use the scroll.

Nothing is too condescending for me. I can handle anything.

But… I can also point out that the behavior is inappropriate and its better to listen to other human beings than not listen.

This is my last post on this – but I do reserve the right to ask art to try to be more concise.

🙂

By: Foxfier

Foxfier — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 05:21:38 +0000

Baklava –
Oh, please. You complained because you find ArtflDgr’s comments annoying, so njartist49 complained about your complaint and pointed out a rather simple solution. You’re not exactly the first person to spend more time and effort to type up a complaint about him than it takes to just skip his stuff.

If a clearly stylistic technique suggestion is just too horrifically “condescending” for you to handle, maybe you should learn to not rad comment sections. Humor is commonly encountered, and folks might expect you to pick up on the broadly absurd.

By: Baklava

Baklava — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:46:01 +0000

nj,

That was condescending. I’ve been in IT for 24 years. I do not need to learn how to use scroll bars.

I can learn to not read the comments section.

I don’t need to be treated this way.

I should be able to make a reasonable concise and constructive comment without being attacked.

All subsequent comments from you are now unread….

By: holmes

holmes — Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:21:01 +0000

Sexual Harassment is mostly a law for women. It’s court-constructed law as “sex” ties to gender. But, the key component is that remarks have to be “unwelcome.” Severe and pervasive and unwelcome. Most men welcome sexual comments, even if not actually interested, as it’s flattering. And even if not flattering, they are typically comfortable enough in positions of authority that they know it’s not worth getting someone fired for. (Though that is a mistake…the woman will regret the comments, feel ashamed, and likely later file a complaint. Best to file/document it first. Free advice 😉

By: njartist49

njartist49 — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:02:39 +0000

@Baklava
I find ArtflDgr’s entries to be interesting and am willing to peruse them. learn to use the scroll bars at the side to move more quickly through the length of the articles.

By: Baklava

Baklava — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 22:05:41 +0000

I
can
barely
read
the
comments
sections

with
art
fl
dgr

contributing
to
the
detioriation
of
my
scroll
wheel

on
my
mouse.

Why can’t
you
be concise?

like
Mr Frank
or
Wolla Dalbo
or
IRA Darth Aggie
or
Curtis
physicsguy

I
can
read
what
they
write.

Concise
is
key.

By: Curtis

Curtis — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:49:50 +0000

But I’m one of them!

Yes, I do agree with that. I trust you, but . . .

Reasonableness by fiat?

Anyone who makes a claim they are reasonable has violated the first law of reasonableness. Surely, I sense an ironic statement?

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:53:41 +0000

Wolla Dalbo: yes, the “reasonable person” (or, in its initial manisfestation, the “reasonable man”) standard is much easier to figure out in a more culturally (and morally) homogeneous and stable society.

By: Wolla Dalbo

Wolla Dalbo — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:34:30 +0000

Neo–that brings up the interesting question of what effect the law’s “reasonable person” standard has on legal decisions over time when the culture changes so radically and dramatically/is so perverted/subverted/decadent when compared to the culture of the past. that what a “reasonable person” thinks is reasonable today would never have been thought “reasonable” in the past but, in fact, would have decidedly been thought “crazy” and totally “unreasonable.”