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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/10/11/why-is-eric-holder-still-obamas-ag/#comment-274168</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[while they are at it, maybe make out a few more subpoena&#039;s

Ex-Indiana governor: That&#039;s not my signature on Obama petition

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-exindiana-governor-thats-not-my-signature-on-obama-petition-20111012,0,1203433.story?track=rss

Former Gov. Joe Kernan says a signature on a petition to place Barack Obama&#039;s name on Indiana&#039;s 2008 primary ballot isn&#039;t his, putting him among dozens of dubious signatures found in a newspaper&#039;s investigation. 

&quot;No, not at all,&quot; the former South Bend mayor said when asked whether the signature next to his name on the Obama petition looked like his own. &quot;Nor does the printing look like mine.&quot;

The Tribune reported Wednesday that it has talked with more than 40 people who say they didn&#039;t sign ballot petitions submitted in St. Joseph County for Obama or Clinton, despite their names appearing on the documents. 





remember, its not who votes, its who counts the votes... under socialism, we make history by cheating, and then writing the history after we win... 


Holcomb said the questionable signatures raised &quot;real questions&quot; about the process and that he believed the U.S. Department of Justice should investigate the matter.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while they are at it, maybe make out a few more subpoena&#8217;s</p>
<p>Ex-Indiana governor: That&#8217;s not my signature on Obama petition</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-exindiana-governor-thats-not-my-signature-on-obama-petition-20111012,0,1203433.story?track=rss" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-exindiana-governor-thats-not-my-signature-on-obama-petition-20111012,0,1203433.story?track=rss</a></p>
<p>Former Gov. Joe Kernan says a signature on a petition to place Barack Obama&#8217;s name on Indiana&#8217;s 2008 primary ballot isn&#8217;t his, putting him among dozens of dubious signatures found in a newspaper&#8217;s investigation. </p>
<p>&#8220;No, not at all,&#8221; the former South Bend mayor said when asked whether the signature next to his name on the Obama petition looked like his own. &#8220;Nor does the printing look like mine.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Tribune reported Wednesday that it has talked with more than 40 people who say they didn&#8217;t sign ballot petitions submitted in St. Joseph County for Obama or Clinton, despite their names appearing on the documents. </p>
<p>remember, its not who votes, its who counts the votes&#8230; under socialism, we make history by cheating, and then writing the history after we win&#8230; </p>
<p>Holcomb said the questionable signatures raised &#8220;real questions&#8221; about the process and that he believed the U.S. Department of Justice should investigate the matter.  </p>
<p>they are a bit busy now with fast and furious&#8230;</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hear that? its a bus revving up its engine... 

Issa Issues Subpoena to Holder in Fast and Furious Investigation

www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/12/issa-issues-subpoena-to-holder-in-fast-and-furious-investigation]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hear that? its a bus revving up its engine&#8230; </p>
<p>Issa Issues Subpoena to Holder in Fast and Furious Investigation</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/12/issa-issues-subpoena-to-holder-in-fast-and-furious-investigation" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/12/issa-issues-subpoena-to-holder-in-fast-and-furious-investigation</a></p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/10/11/why-is-eric-holder-still-obamas-ag/#comment-274012</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, that is exactly right Beverly, but why? I submit it is due to the reigning &quot;law of the land.&quot; The law of the land has been reset to &quot;what the nobility says&quot; and it has been reset by those monsters. We recognize the legitimacy of the new law because it was through duly elected channels. So, not only is there a protection by a new law but there is a natural deference to the authority that set that new law. 

But, there is a limit and they have run against that limit of the extension of a belief in their good faith. Now, it is close to war, and compromise, the foundation of a rational system, has been compromised. Did Lincoln compromise? No. But he did not demonize the opposition. For that he was hated at the time, but it was his vision which prevailed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is exactly right Beverly, but why? I submit it is due to the reigning &#8220;law of the land.&#8221; The law of the land has been reset to &#8220;what the nobility says&#8221; and it has been reset by those monsters. We recognize the legitimacy of the new law because it was through duly elected channels. So, not only is there a protection by a new law but there is a natural deference to the authority that set that new law. </p>
<p>But, there is a limit and they have run against that limit of the extension of a belief in their good faith. Now, it is close to war, and compromise, the foundation of a rational system, has been compromised. Did Lincoln compromise? No. But he did not demonize the opposition. For that he was hated at the time, but it was his vision which prevailed.</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 06:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, so Holder is the Mouth of Sauron. 

I reckon that&#039;s one way to look at it. I think there &quot;went but a pair of shears between &#039;em,&quot; to quote the Bard.

What strikes me most forcibly about both guys is their utter lack of shame: they feel completely justified in their operations, and when caught, simply shrug and say, &quot;Whaddaya gonna do about it? Nothin&#039;? Thought so!&quot; and carry on like before. The foxes have found out that the henhouse guards are indifferent or too timid to stop their depredations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, so Holder is the Mouth of Sauron. </p>
<p>I reckon that&#8217;s one way to look at it. I think there &#8220;went but a pair of shears between &#8217;em,&#8221; to quote the Bard.</p>
<p>What strikes me most forcibly about both guys is their utter lack of shame: they feel completely justified in their operations, and when caught, simply shrug and say, &#8220;Whaddaya gonna do about it? Nothin&#8217;? Thought so!&#8221; and carry on like before. The foxes have found out that the henhouse guards are indifferent or too timid to stop their depredations.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At this point the conclusion is inescapable: For oh so many reasons, Democrats are not fit for office. None of them. 

They&#039;re cowardly on defense, profligate on fiscal policy, pandering to extremism, corrupt in financial dealings, dissolute on sexual matters, questionable or worse on patriotism, and somewhere between hopeless and complicit in Red efforts to subvert our form of government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point the conclusion is inescapable: For oh so many reasons, Democrats are not fit for office. None of them. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re cowardly on defense, profligate on fiscal policy, pandering to extremism, corrupt in financial dealings, dissolute on sexual matters, questionable or worse on patriotism, and somewhere between hopeless and complicit in Red efforts to subvert our form of government.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo-
When I wrote, &quot;No more Ms. Nice Guy,&quot; I meant I think you are  sometimes too gentle. That may be a reflection of your therapist persona. But you were surely worked up with your recent essays on the death penalty. So agitation happens to you too. 

I personally view Obama and Holder especially as actors and enablers of the greatest dangers to the USA in a hugely long time, causing grave, permanent, irremediable harm, and it exercises me. I tried to make that clear. I submit there is a point in the judicious use of the word &#039;evil.&#039; I do not do that lightly.

Thank you for having allowed me to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo-<br />
When I wrote, &#8220;No more Ms. Nice Guy,&#8221; I meant I think you are  sometimes too gentle. That may be a reflection of your therapist persona. But you were surely worked up with your recent essays on the death penalty. So agitation happens to you too. </p>
<p>I personally view Obama and Holder especially as actors and enablers of the greatest dangers to the USA in a hugely long time, causing grave, permanent, irremediable harm, and it exercises me. I tried to make that clear. I submit there is a point in the judicious use of the word &#8216;evil.&#8217; I do not do that lightly.</p>
<p>Thank you for having allowed me to do so.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was in a federal office and noticed two pictures of Obama and Holder. As I passed by the pictures, a blue light, soft and sparkling, soothed and calmed my troubled mind. Oh those noble souls, well wrapped in humility and charity, how I wish to bask always in their light. 

It wasn&#039;t too long ago that such tripe was really said.

Nothing pleases me more to see Issa zeroing in on Holder. As we continue to watch the disintegration of Obama&#039;s administration, more and more will be revealed. It seems a race between the anarchy unleashed by the proponents of &quot;the audacity of hope&quot; and the stabilization occurred through the reaction and revelation of what is happening. Truly might these times be called apocalyptic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in a federal office and noticed two pictures of Obama and Holder. As I passed by the pictures, a blue light, soft and sparkling, soothed and calmed my troubled mind. Oh those noble souls, well wrapped in humility and charity, how I wish to bask always in their light. </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t too long ago that such tripe was really said.</p>
<p>Nothing pleases me more to see Issa zeroing in on Holder. As we continue to watch the disintegration of Obama&#8217;s administration, more and more will be revealed. It seems a race between the anarchy unleashed by the proponents of &#8220;the audacity of hope&#8221; and the stabilization occurred through the reaction and revelation of what is happening. Truly might these times be called apocalyptic.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[on another note.. 

Defense-cut projections seen as risk to recruitment
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/10/defense-cut-projections-seen-as-risk-to-force-recr/

besides the point of the whole article, another very critical point was made in a single paragraph that would also explain much as far as why we have what we have in office.

&lt;i&gt;
The pool from which the military recruits is already getting smaller. In 1973, the year the draft ended and the all-volunteer force arose, 90 percent of males, ages 17 through 24, qualified based on mental, physical and moral standards. Today, just 35 percent qualify.
&lt;/i&gt;

when a failure rate goes from 10% to 65%, and you know the game, you really do wonder how many times will they cut the salami before the people realize that the &#039;squares&#039; and oppressors that warned them as to what things were and where they would head... maybe were not the real block heads after all. 

NEO: If Obama is the loner people say he is, then old and trusted friends–especially ones that predate his presidency–become even more important. If he jettisons them, who is left?

again... once you are in the thick of it, all you can really trust are your friends, the people who were with you before. anyone new you meet may be friend, may be frienemy as they say today, or changeable, which amounts to similar endings.

i have said before, if you want to know this game plan, read the &quot;The Revolutionary Catechism&quot;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
8. The revolutionary can have no friendship or attachment, except for those who have proved by their actions that they, like him, are dedicated to revolution. &lt;i&gt;The degree of friendship, devotion and obligation toward such a comrade is determined solely by the degree of his usefulness to the cause of total revolutionary destruction.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

NEO: &lt;i&gt;Perhaps the proper word for the relationship might be “surrogate” or “mouthpiece.” This is not to say that Holder does not have opinions of his own. I am not claiming he is a puppet. But his opinions are so closely in sync with Obama’s on these issues that for all intents and purposes they are one. &lt;/i&gt;

number 10 covers that one.. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;10. &lt;i&gt;All revolutionaries should have under them second- or third-degree revolutionaries — i.e., comrades who are not completely initiated. these should be regarded as part of the common revolutionary capital placed at his disposal. &lt;/i&gt;  This capital should, of course, be spent as economically as possible in order to derive from it the greatest possible profit. The real revolutionary should regard himself as capital consecrated to the triumph of the revolution; &lt;i&gt;however, he may not personally and alone dispose of that capital without the unanimous consent of the fully initiated comrades.&lt;blockquote&gt;

and what will Obama do as far as helping his friend out in any meaningful way?

Neo: I suppose Obama might sacrifice him if it becomes necessary for strategic reasons (after all, he’s been known to do such a thing). If the decisions they both support because so unpopular Obama feels the need to disassociate himself from Holder and use him as scapegoat, it will happen.

&lt;blockquote&gt;11. When a comrade is in danger and the question arises whether he should be saved or not saved, the decision must not be arrived at on the basis of sentiment, but solely in the interests of the revolutionary cause. Therefore, it is necessary to weigh carefully the usefulness of the comrade against the expenditure of revolutionary forces necessary to save him, and the decision must be made accordingly. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And the wheels of the bus go round and round...&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on another note.. </p>
<p>Defense-cut projections seen as risk to recruitment<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/10/defense-cut-projections-seen-as-risk-to-force-recr/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/10/defense-cut-projections-seen-as-risk-to-force-recr/</a></p>
<p>besides the point of the whole article, another very critical point was made in a single paragraph that would also explain much as far as why we have what we have in office.</p>
<p><i><br />
The pool from which the military recruits is already getting smaller. In 1973, the year the draft ended and the all-volunteer force arose, 90 percent of males, ages 17 through 24, qualified based on mental, physical and moral standards. Today, just 35 percent qualify.<br />
</i></p>
<p>when a failure rate goes from 10% to 65%, and you know the game, you really do wonder how many times will they cut the salami before the people realize that the &#8216;squares&#8217; and oppressors that warned them as to what things were and where they would head&#8230; maybe were not the real block heads after all. </p>
<p>NEO: If Obama is the loner people say he is, then old and trusted friends–especially ones that predate his presidency–become even more important. If he jettisons them, who is left?</p>
<p>again&#8230; once you are in the thick of it, all you can really trust are your friends, the people who were with you before. anyone new you meet may be friend, may be frienemy as they say today, or changeable, which amounts to similar endings.</p>
<p>i have said before, if you want to know this game plan, read the &#8220;The Revolutionary Catechism&#8221;</p>
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8. The revolutionary can have no friendship or attachment, except for those who have proved by their actions that they, like him, are dedicated to revolution. <i>The degree of friendship, devotion and obligation toward such a comrade is determined solely by the degree of his usefulness to the cause of total revolutionary destruction.</i>
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<p>NEO: <i>Perhaps the proper word for the relationship might be “surrogate” or “mouthpiece.” This is not to say that Holder does not have opinions of his own. I am not claiming he is a puppet. But his opinions are so closely in sync with Obama’s on these issues that for all intents and purposes they are one. </i></p>
<p>number 10 covers that one.. </p>
<blockquote><p>10. <i>All revolutionaries should have under them second- or third-degree revolutionaries — i.e., comrades who are not completely initiated. these should be regarded as part of the common revolutionary capital placed at his disposal. </i>  This capital should, of course, be spent as economically as possible in order to derive from it the greatest possible profit. The real revolutionary should regard himself as capital consecrated to the triumph of the revolution; <i>however, he may not personally and alone dispose of that capital without the unanimous consent of the fully initiated comrades.</p>
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<p>and what will Obama do as far as helping his friend out in any meaningful way?</p>
<p>Neo: I suppose Obama might sacrifice him if it becomes necessary for strategic reasons (after all, he’s been known to do such a thing). If the decisions they both support because so unpopular Obama feels the need to disassociate himself from Holder and use him as scapegoat, it will happen.</p>
<blockquote><p>11. When a comrade is in danger and the question arises whether he should be saved or not saved, the decision must not be arrived at on the basis of sentiment, but solely in the interests of the revolutionary cause. Therefore, it is necessary to weigh carefully the usefulness of the comrade against the expenditure of revolutionary forces necessary to save him, and the decision must be made accordingly.
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<p>And the wheels of the bus go round and round&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p></i></p></blockquote>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why? 

Because he hasn&#039;t gotten the actual subpoena yet, and the process hasn&#039;t started yet and passed a certain point...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? </p>
<p>Because he hasn&#8217;t gotten the actual subpoena yet, and the process hasn&#8217;t started yet and passed a certain point&#8230;</p>
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