These little commie pow-wows they have chanting sessions, whatever they are told they repeat back (why what is the purpose behind this). Obviously they want to break down the individual turning them into a unquestioning collectivist (that think not a wit for there own well being). This has two important properties.

1) It allows command and control a-lot easier, there is only one point of access, you plant your man at the correct positon and you can command all the dummies.

2) A person that has been stripped of there individuality is more willing to follow radical instructions for the “cause”. They have already selected these people (only a certain type — the down and outs are going to join these protests anyway).

The protests are a bunch of useful idiots, the truly evil people are the communist operators. What are trying to do with these people and you can plug in any number of scenarios

pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/10/11/occupy-l-a-speaker-violence-will-be-necessary-to-achieve-our-goals/

Experience has shown that the mass-armies of “democratic” states fight with greater zeal when they are animated by hatred and supported by a hate-crazed populace that fancies it is fighting a holy war. Lies have therefore become military equipment, a kind of mental logistics; but it is the essence of such propaganda that its spuriousness is known only to the persons who manufacture it. The model of such operations is the famous lie-factory managed by Lord Bryce during the First World War, in which a corps of expert technicians forged photographs, while expert liars, including Arnold Toynbee, concocted stories of “atrocities” to inspire the emotionally overwrought British with a fanatic’s hatred of the incredibly bestial Germans and with a noble Christian ardour to kill them. Revilo P. Oliver

in terms of this crowd, and electing obama, and such..

It is a truism, of course, that in “democratic” states the populace must be encouraged to imagine that it makes important decisions by voting, and must therefore be controlled by suitable propaganda, which implants ideas to which the voters respond automatically as trained animals respond to words of command in a circus, thus leaving to the masses only a factitious choice between Tweedledum and Tweedledee on the basis of their preference for a certain kind of oratory, a hair-style, or a particular facial expression.

a good read on this and other stuff in history that are KNOWN to have been manufactured or opportunistic events used for some purpose

Jacques Ellul’s Les Propagandes (Paris, 1962)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ellul

His constant concern has been the emergence of a “technological tyranny” over humanity. As a philosopher and lay theologian, he further explored the religiosity of the technological society.

oh, you mean like the government knowing who is a radical in the park by the cell phones? and how they are allowed or pseudo allowed to ‘listen in’ on them? that the LONGER they wait to clear or do something, the more cockroaches come out to the middle of the kitchen floor…

if only i was a better writer, as one cant move from X to Y without grasping X… and there is huge amounts of history and works that most dont even know exist, and some of them have greatly affected their lives!!

Jacques was educated at the universities of Bordeaux and Paris. In World War II, he was a leader in the French resistance. For his efforts to save Jews he was awarded the title Righteous among the Nations by Yad Vashem in 1981

but how many know he exists? or what he wrote? and so on? its more likely you have read the end of history (a term from communist reasoning that proclaims that when the world is all communist, history will end as communists construct history by manipulation… ie, history as a natural recortd of natural events ends, and from then on, history is what ever they want it to be which serves the need of the greater something)

Jacques Ellul had three primary sources of inspiration by the early 1930s who would influence his works henceforth: Karl Marx, Soren Kierkegaard, and Karl Barth.

What most dont get is that the people i am bringing up and quoting are very important as they are the key people who created the ideas or actions we work or believe or function under today…

and we have no other choice!!!
unless your wealthy or have other means, your subjected to the product of these ideas whether you like them or not… precisely because the ones that are dominant are about erasing the individual…

Ellul saw the power of the media as another example of technology exerting control over human destiny. As a mechanism of change, the media are almost invariably manipulated by special interests, whether of the market or the state.

within Propaganda Ellul claims that “it is a fact that excessive data do not enlighten the reader or the listener; they drown him. He cannot remember them all, or coordinate them, or understand them; if he does not want to risk losing his mind, he will merely draw a general picture from them. And the more facts supplied, the more simplistic the image”

ergo why we cant explain to them…
they cant grasp it, and their high level of self esteem on false grounds will make them violent if you try to show they are not what they pose to be!!!

isnt it interesting how bella dodd and dewey and others created a educational system that dumbed them down AND gave them bad emotional qualities that would dovetail with what they intended to use them for?

ie… in the days of capitalism, the people and capitalists thought hte schools and such were to train people to work… “cradle to grave”…

but now, in the days of socialism, and state capitalism like china… what you have is the culmination of changint those schools in the early 1900s, and so making the people ready for their part.

ie… same purpose, different end…

he individual who burns with desire for action but does not know what to do is a common type in our society. He wants to act for the sake of justice, peace, progress, but does not know how. If propaganda can show him this ‘how’ then it has won the game; action will surely follow”

its SO frustrating… if i write too much, its deleted… people cant remember, etc… if you dont, they can just write off your comment..

meanwhile, their desire to equally put in ‘facts’ so they make em up… is so strong that facts rest equally with fantasy and few can tell which is which!

meanwhile… there are hundreds of people who for those who ARE Educated in this, are involved and been read…

imagine when you were young and the adults knew so much more than you… now that’s what you have with socialists leaders and you UNLESS you were a really geeky kid who read everything and remembered.

if not, then you just got woken up and have 50 years of education to catch up to, and ALL of it implying your not bright as you should know this.

is it any wonder that social engineering provided the psychological foundation for manipulating groups? whats different between joseph mengele, and a social psychiatrist making up pedagogy? and giving us the often false spravka on it?

In addition, people become “caught in a web of facts they have been given. They cannot even form a choice or a judgment in other areas or on other subjects. Thus the mechanisms of modern information induce a sort of hypnosis in the individual, who cannot get out of the field that has been laid out for him by the information”

any of this sound familiar?
isnt it sad that if i could have gotten off the innocents clubs when i first brought them up BEFORE obama, than today, how many key tracts and writings i could have referenced for you all…

but alas… all the stuff above prevents such!!!!
its not like its not known… its just not known among the VICTIMS… who have to admit they are victims before they can start stopping being victims. even being betrayed and having your life ruined is not enough for most.

“It is not true that he can choose freely with regard to what is presented to him as the truth. And because rational propaganda thus creates an irrational situation, it remains, above all, propaganda — that is, an inner control over the individual by a social force, which means that it deprives him of himself”

deprives him of the self…
he or she, is no longer a individual…

anyone saw the crowd blindly repeating things from someone on a microphone, to the inane point of repeating the instructions?

“All individual passion leads to the suppression of all critical judgment with regard to the object of that passion” Jules Monnerot

and here is a kicker!!!
(wait till i drum up some others most have no idea existed… )

In response to an invitation from Protestant associations, Ellul visited Germany two times (1934 and 1935). On the second visit he attended a Nazi meeting out of curiosity which influenced his later work on propaganda and its ability to unify a group.

In explaining the significance of freedom and the purpose for resisting the enslavement of man via acculturation (or sociological bondage), Ellul rejects the notion that this is due to some supposed supreme importance linked to humanity.

He states that enslavement expresses how authority, signification, and value are attached to humanity and the beliefs and institutions it creates leading to an exaltation of the nation or state, money, technology, art, morality, the party, etc.

The work of humanity is glorified.

…man himself is exalted, and paradoxical though it may seem to be, this means the crushing of man.

Man’s enslavement is the reverse side of the glory, value, and importance that are ascribed to him.

The more a society magnifies human greatness, the more one will see men alienated, enslaved, imprisoned, and tortured, in it.

Humanism prepares the ground for the anti-human.

We do not say that this is an intellectual paradox.

All one need do is read history.

Men have never been so oppressed as in societies which set man at the pinnacle of values and exalt his greatness or make him the measure of all things. For in such societies freedom is detached from its purpose, which is, we affirm, the glory of God

and so, its why religion has to go…

interesting aside…

there are now no more christian churches in Afghanistan!!!!!!!!!! even the Taliban didn’t do that!

churches that hold their beliefs, lose tax status
churches that reform them, and hold the image of such but follow the state, retain their tax status.

at least now there is someone interesting and such to read. i now sit and await for that person to be commented on out of the blue by some writer…

oh… and no occam, i didnt notice until you said it that they also forgot to start the lynching stats before the dems killed so many!!!!!!!!!!!! nice catch…

though the same was and is done with hayes tilden…

Half of them are unemployable.

The other half would take any job a greedy plundering corporation offered them.

All of them voted for Obama.

It says that Christie set to endorse Romney. 🙁

Soros, as you might know, is a Jew who was taken in, his Jewishness concealed, by a Christian family in Nazi Germany. His Christian “father” was a government official in the Nazi regime, whose job it was to go out, round up Jews, dispossess them, confiscate their possessions, and turn them over to the military sending them on their way to concentration camps and the gas chambers, and teenaged George Soros went along with his “father” and helped him do his work.

In a recent TV biography Soros (not his real name, by the way) was asked if he had any guilt or remorse for his actions against his fellow Jews, and Soros said that he had none at all.

Another video clip showed Soros saying that the United States was the major obstacle to the creating of the kind of world Soros thought we should have and, in another part of the biographical video on Soros, he related that he took great pride in the fact that he had used his wealth to set up “popular organizations” in several countries, fomented street protests, and was instrumental in overturning the existing governments in four different countries; all of which he thought was the greatest of fun.

Indeed. Many do not recall that the Germans looked to the National Socialists (and overlooked their unsavory aspects) as their salvation from the communist gangs that were rioting in an attempt to follow in Lenin’s footsteps. In fact, the original raison d’etre of the SA was to protect Nazi meetings from disruption by KPD thugs. Later, when the Nazis were stronger, the SA engaged in pitched street battles with the communists.

Poor Germans – they were screwed no matter who won.

“Once people lose their bare subsistence, once the future looks like nothing but a grey wall to them, they will listen all the more to promises without wondering who makes them.”

Many Americans today do see “a grey wall” in the future…they have mostly not lost “bare subsistence” as had the Germans of whom Mr Scholl spoke, but then expectations have been much higher here. And Obama has created a climate of blame-casting, demonization, and denunciation, in a way that will surely encourage not only “protests” but actual mob violence.