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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/17/looking-back-at-george-w-bush/#comment-270086</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What was that name they gave the guy in Brandon Sanderson&#039;s one shot novel...

Warbreaker the Peaceful?

Many would think that doesn&#039;t fit Bush 2.

Bush was going to complete a proper succession, and thus his actions on TARP were informed by what obama said he wanted to do, since Obama was going to inherit the issue either way next month.

Clinton didn&#039;t do that for Bush. And Obama won&#039;t do that for the next President. Because Democrats care little for the nation itself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was that name they gave the guy in Brandon Sanderson&#8217;s one shot novel&#8230;</p>
<p>Warbreaker the Peaceful?</p>
<p>Many would think that doesn&#8217;t fit Bush 2.</p>
<p>Bush was going to complete a proper succession, and thus his actions on TARP were informed by what obama said he wanted to do, since Obama was going to inherit the issue either way next month.</p>
<p>Clinton didn&#8217;t do that for Bush. And Obama won&#8217;t do that for the next President. Because Democrats care little for the nation itself.</p>
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		By: Mike Mc.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/17/looking-back-at-george-w-bush/#comment-269063</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Mc.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Abdul-

You won this thread.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abdul-</p>
<p>You won this thread.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Promethea,
I was hearing the same things in Germany about the banks here who had bought the US mortgage loans. I think the fear of international shutdown was real. I am not qualified to say whether it was correct.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Promethea,<br />
I was hearing the same things in Germany about the banks here who had bought the US mortgage loans. I think the fear of international shutdown was real. I am not qualified to say whether it was correct.</p>
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		By: Promethea		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/17/looking-back-at-george-w-bush/#comment-269014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Promethea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not defending TARP here, because I know nothing about the financial matters relating to it.

However, I remember at the time that people were afraid that without it, there would have been some kind of credit crisis that meant that grocery stores wouldn&#039;t have been able to restock their shelves.

If this is true, in my area this would have caused panic and looting within a few days. As I recall, this was the argument in favor of TARP for those of us who didn&#039;t understand the situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not defending TARP here, because I know nothing about the financial matters relating to it.</p>
<p>However, I remember at the time that people were afraid that without it, there would have been some kind of credit crisis that meant that grocery stores wouldn&#8217;t have been able to restock their shelves.</p>
<p>If this is true, in my area this would have caused panic and looting within a few days. As I recall, this was the argument in favor of TARP for those of us who didn&#8217;t understand the situation.</p>
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		By: kolnai		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[abdul7591 - great comment.  Love the KKK analogy.  As T said, I think you nailed it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abdul7591 &#8211; great comment.  Love the KKK analogy.  As T said, I think you nailed it.</p>
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		By: br549		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/17/looking-back-at-george-w-bush/#comment-268951</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo:

I like the EH.net article. Sadly, though, it makes both of us right.

Anyway, I was going to use what I wrote at first to again lead into the political party who originally supported slavery, and &quot;ran&quot; the south. They are the major migrants, it seems, and now &quot;run&quot; the north, and are filled with a hatred of all things southern. And via their efforts, in a way, have many more people enslaved then ever before.

I vote republican because I want as little government interference in my life as is currently possible, all things considered. Those who vote democrat seem to want just the opposite. They want the government to do for them. And through the government, want to force me to do as they would have me do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo:</p>
<p>I like the EH.net article. Sadly, though, it makes both of us right.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was going to use what I wrote at first to again lead into the political party who originally supported slavery, and &#8220;ran&#8221; the south. They are the major migrants, it seems, and now &#8220;run&#8221; the north, and are filled with a hatred of all things southern. And via their efforts, in a way, have many more people enslaved then ever before.</p>
<p>I vote republican because I want as little government interference in my life as is currently possible, all things considered. Those who vote democrat seem to want just the opposite. They want the government to do for them. And through the government, want to force me to do as they would have me do.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[During Dubya&#039;s first run for Governor I had just been elected a Republican Precinct Chairman (Yay Me!) and so was a delegate to the State Senatorial District Convention. This consisted of about a gazillion speeches including one by Dubya. Shortly afterward there were a slew of folks running for judge in places where my Precinct had no vote so I was outside, smokin&#039; and jokin&#039; with some other delegates. That&#039;s when Dubya came out and spent about an hour talking with us.

 I am sure that Dubya would never recognize me if we met after this long but I sure remember him. I know that one of the things he is proudest of is bringing running water, electricity and sewers to the colonias along the Rio Grande. He did this not because he wanted the Hispanic vote but because he felt it was the right thing to do. Everything he did in office was like that. He was never the same kind of conservative I was, he&#039;s one of those men with which seventy percent is as close as it gets. 

 I don&#039;t think George W. Bush remembers me but I am still glad I met this good man and am proud to call him my friend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During Dubya&#8217;s first run for Governor I had just been elected a Republican Precinct Chairman (Yay Me!) and so was a delegate to the State Senatorial District Convention. This consisted of about a gazillion speeches including one by Dubya. Shortly afterward there were a slew of folks running for judge in places where my Precinct had no vote so I was outside, smokin&#8217; and jokin&#8217; with some other delegates. That&#8217;s when Dubya came out and spent about an hour talking with us.</p>
<p> I am sure that Dubya would never recognize me if we met after this long but I sure remember him. I know that one of the things he is proudest of is bringing running water, electricity and sewers to the colonias along the Rio Grande. He did this not because he wanted the Hispanic vote but because he felt it was the right thing to do. Everything he did in office was like that. He was never the same kind of conservative I was, he&#8217;s one of those men with which seventy percent is as close as it gets. </p>
<p> I don&#8217;t think George W. Bush remembers me but I am still glad I met this good man and am proud to call him my friend.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[abdul7591:
Excellent!  I didn&#039;t see your comment until after I posted mine.  (I&#039;m a slow writer.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abdul7591:<br />
Excellent!  I didn&#8217;t see your comment until after I posted mine.  (I&#8217;m a slow writer.)</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike Mc. Says: 
September 17th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Those who attack him are not good people. They are as far from great people as one can get. They are, in truth, as low a specimen of human being as you can get. Period.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wrong.  The people who attack Palin are worse.  &lt;i&gt;Much&lt;/i&gt; worse.

With Bush, you could say that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, he was an obnoxious frat boy, alcoholic, son of a President who was also a former CIA director, member of the ruling class, etc., etc., etc.

(I&#039;m just putting myself in the shoes of Bush haters there.)

Who is Palin?  A housewife and mother who came out of nowhere, with no family or political connections, ran for mayor of a small town, got appointed to the Oil and Gas Board, resigned because of corruption, then ran for governor on a platform of fighting corruption in her own party.  No contest.  The people who hate her hate decency itself.

Parker Says: 
September 18th, 2011 at 12:55 am
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;What would have happened? That’s easy! The big, over leveraged banks and investment firms would have crashed. It would have caused much pain for everyone. We would have taken a 10-20% hit to GDP. AND by now we would be in the beginning stage of a real recovery. Instead, we are around 8 trillion, and rapidly counting, further in the hole and daylight can not reach the bottom.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly.  TARP was an enormous blunder, and set the stage for Obama&#039;s even more massive interventions in the economy.  I saw it at the time.  Not passing TARP would have sent us into an immediate, severe depression.  But it was necessary.  Attempting to mask it with deficit spending works for a while, but it can&#039;t continue forever, and the collapse will be much worse when it does happen, as it must.  I suppose the thinking was that not passing TARP and going into a depression on the eve of the election would have guaranteed an Obama victory, while staving it off with TARP gave McCain a slim chance.  Whatever the case, it didn&#039;t work, and now we have the worst of both worlds.

I voted for Bush both times, and I&#039;m glad I did.  I&#039;m actually more critical of him today than I was during his Presidency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Mc. Says:<br />
September 17th, 2011 at 8:33 pm</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>Those who attack him are not good people. They are as far from great people as one can get. They are, in truth, as low a specimen of human being as you can get. Period.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wrong.  The people who attack Palin are worse.  <i>Much</i> worse.</p>
<p>With Bush, you could say that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, he was an obnoxious frat boy, alcoholic, son of a President who was also a former CIA director, member of the ruling class, etc., etc., etc.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m just putting myself in the shoes of Bush haters there.)</p>
<p>Who is Palin?  A housewife and mother who came out of nowhere, with no family or political connections, ran for mayor of a small town, got appointed to the Oil and Gas Board, resigned because of corruption, then ran for governor on a platform of fighting corruption in her own party.  No contest.  The people who hate her hate decency itself.</p>
<p>Parker Says:<br />
September 18th, 2011 at 12:55 am</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>What would have happened? That’s easy! The big, over leveraged banks and investment firms would have crashed. It would have caused much pain for everyone. We would have taken a 10-20% hit to GDP. AND by now we would be in the beginning stage of a real recovery. Instead, we are around 8 trillion, and rapidly counting, further in the hole and daylight can not reach the bottom.</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly.  TARP was an enormous blunder, and set the stage for Obama&#8217;s even more massive interventions in the economy.  I saw it at the time.  Not passing TARP would have sent us into an immediate, severe depression.  But it was necessary.  Attempting to mask it with deficit spending works for a while, but it can&#8217;t continue forever, and the collapse will be much worse when it does happen, as it must.  I suppose the thinking was that not passing TARP and going into a depression on the eve of the election would have guaranteed an Obama victory, while staving it off with TARP gave McCain a slim chance.  Whatever the case, it didn&#8217;t work, and now we have the worst of both worlds.</p>
<p>I voted for Bush both times, and I&#8217;m glad I did.  I&#8217;m actually more critical of him today than I was during his Presidency.</p>
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		By: Matthew M		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 05:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BDS reminded me of the incessant vitriol aimed at Reagan.  I think the ire of the left reaches white heat when BS is called on their critical theory inspired delusions.  Conservative(ish) presidents making prominent statements and policies that capture public attention and cannot be ignored (their default treatment of heresy) insults their faith.  The phrases &quot;evil empire&quot; and &quot;axis of evil&quot; threw them into tizzy because facts they ignore or deny were being acknowledged.  It challenged their orthodoxy that communism was moral and multiculturalism is realistic.

Another hypothesis regarding BDS that occurred to me after witnessing the Obama hagiography syndrome was that Bush&#039;s presence was a reproach to their desire for an enlightened - read progressive - dictator.  In support of this is their enthusiasm for relinquishing control of every decision from health care to light bulbs to the wise experts populating the bureaucracies on Washington.  They want an aristocracy instead of a republic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BDS reminded me of the incessant vitriol aimed at Reagan.  I think the ire of the left reaches white heat when BS is called on their critical theory inspired delusions.  Conservative(ish) presidents making prominent statements and policies that capture public attention and cannot be ignored (their default treatment of heresy) insults their faith.  The phrases &#8220;evil empire&#8221; and &#8220;axis of evil&#8221; threw them into tizzy because facts they ignore or deny were being acknowledged.  It challenged their orthodoxy that communism was moral and multiculturalism is realistic.</p>
<p>Another hypothesis regarding BDS that occurred to me after witnessing the Obama hagiography syndrome was that Bush&#8217;s presence was a reproach to their desire for an enlightened &#8211; read progressive &#8211; dictator.  In support of this is their enthusiasm for relinquishing control of every decision from health care to light bulbs to the wise experts populating the bureaucracies on Washington.  They want an aristocracy instead of a republic.</p>
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