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		By: raf		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-268186</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 20:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why assume that Carville has Obama&#039;s interests at heart?  Carville is deeply involved with the Clintons.  One could read this as contributing to a general feeling that Obama is doomed, so the Dems need to find a way to fall back on Hillary in 2012.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why assume that Carville has Obama&#8217;s interests at heart?  Carville is deeply involved with the Clintons.  One could read this as contributing to a general feeling that Obama is doomed, so the Dems need to find a way to fall back on Hillary in 2012.</p>
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		By: gs		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-268166</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-268159&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Don Carlos&lt;/a&gt;. Savvy veteran Carville has indicated promising targets for Democrat attack ads.

To put it in terms of gamesmanship: The Democrats should hire concern trolls to write those ads. They should use the tone of sweet reason to scare the dickens out of American voters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-268159" rel="nofollow">Don Carlos</a>. Savvy veteran Carville has indicated promising targets for Democrat attack ads.</p>
<p>To put it in terms of gamesmanship: The Democrats should hire concern trolls to write those ads. They should use the tone of sweet reason to scare the dickens out of American voters.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-268164</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought the attack watch site was a joke until i clicked on it. This President and these times are getting really bizzare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the attack watch site was a joke until i clicked on it. This President and these times are getting really bizzare.</p>
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		By: gs		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-268162</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;uncleFred Says:

gs: “Obama is vulnerable. Obama is not beyond a point of no return.”
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...He has no intention of turning back, and he is past the point of electability &lt;b&gt;unless he does so. Barring a total melt down of the Republican candidate&lt;/b&gt;, Obama is done.&lt;/i&gt;

1. A skeptic might interpret the two phrases I boldfaced as escape clauses.

2. For the three incumbent Presidents--Ford, Carter, Bush 41--whose reelection efforts I saw fail, the outcomes were in doubt well into the campaign.

3. The Moderate Voice&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://themoderatevoice.com/120411/gallup-poll-obama-re-election-now-far-from-a-shoo-in/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joe Gandelman&lt;/a&gt; titles his post, &quot;Gallup Poll: Obama Re-Election Now Far From A Shoo In&quot;.  That&#039;s in the ball park afaic, though shaded too favorably for Obama. (NB: I&#039;m quoting the TMV site, not recommending it.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>uncleFred Says:</p>
<p>gs: “Obama is vulnerable. Obama is not beyond a point of no return.”<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8230;He has no intention of turning back, and he is past the point of electability <b>unless he does so. Barring a total melt down of the Republican candidate</b>, Obama is done.</i></p>
<p>1. A skeptic might interpret the two phrases I boldfaced as escape clauses.</p>
<p>2. For the three incumbent Presidents&#8211;Ford, Carter, Bush 41&#8211;whose reelection efforts I saw fail, the outcomes were in doubt well into the campaign.</p>
<p>3. The Moderate Voice&#8217;s <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/120411/gallup-poll-obama-re-election-now-far-from-a-shoo-in/" rel="nofollow">Joe Gandelman</a> titles his post, &#8220;Gallup Poll: Obama Re-Election Now Far From A Shoo In&#8221;.  That&#8217;s in the ball park afaic, though shaded too favorably for Obama. (NB: I&#8217;m quoting the TMV site, not recommending it.)</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-268159</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What Carville said, and where  the focus really ought to be:

&quot;As I watch the Republican debates, I realize that we are on the brink of a crazy person running our nation. I sit in front of the television and shudder at the thought of one of these creationism-loving, global-warming-denying, immigration-bashing, Social-Security-cutting, clean-air-hating, mortality-fascinated, Wall-Street-protecting Republicans running my country.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Carville said, and where  the focus really ought to be:</p>
<p>&#8220;As I watch the Republican debates, I realize that we are on the brink of a crazy person running our nation. I sit in front of the television and shudder at the thought of one of these creationism-loving, global-warming-denying, immigration-bashing, Social-Security-cutting, clean-air-hating, mortality-fascinated, Wall-Street-protecting Republicans running my country.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, we now have a new resource in the war against all those eevil &quot;unapproved&quot; thoughts, wrecking, threats to &quot;democratic centralism,&quot; and tendencies to &quot;rightist deviationism&quot;, etc. etc.;  ATTACKWATCH.COM (see a very funny parody of this site here at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XYKRokgX00) . 

This new Obama administration website resembles nothing so much as the  &quot;official line&quot; memos that used to be issued--I believe weekly--to each official propagandist/political officer in the old U.S.S.R., so that they could tell the masses what was officially &quot;true and correct,&quot; what ideas it was permissible to hold, and what it was permissible to think and say,  with these not &quot;getting the message&quot; given free trips to Siberia.

So, for convenience sake and to stop useless and perhaps dangerous questioning of Obama, authority, and official &quot;reality,&quot; we now have the &quot;current line&quot;; the list of officially approved thoughts we are allowed to hold and the sentiments we are allowed to express.

Thus, for instance, we are told that &quot;Obama was born in the United States and is a U.S. citizen, period.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we now have a new resource in the war against all those eevil &#8220;unapproved&#8221; thoughts, wrecking, threats to &#8220;democratic centralism,&#8221; and tendencies to &#8220;rightist deviationism&#8221;, etc. etc.;  ATTACKWATCH.COM (see a very funny parody of this site here at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XYKRokgX00" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XYKRokgX00</a>) . </p>
<p>This new Obama administration website resembles nothing so much as the  &#8220;official line&#8221; memos that used to be issued&#8211;I believe weekly&#8211;to each official propagandist/political officer in the old U.S.S.R., so that they could tell the masses what was officially &#8220;true and correct,&#8221; what ideas it was permissible to hold, and what it was permissible to think and say,  with these not &#8220;getting the message&#8221; given free trips to Siberia.</p>
<p>So, for convenience sake and to stop useless and perhaps dangerous questioning of Obama, authority, and official &#8220;reality,&#8221; we now have the &#8220;current line&#8221;; the list of officially approved thoughts we are allowed to hold and the sentiments we are allowed to express.</p>
<p>Thus, for instance, we are told that &#8220;Obama was born in the United States and is a U.S. citizen, period.&#8221;</p>
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		By: uncleFred		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-268097</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[gs:
&quot;Obama is vulnerable. Obama is not beyond a point of no return.&quot;

   Barack has to turn back to save his presidency. He has to return to centrist policies, stop the insane spending, dump Obamacare, roll back his 81,000+ new pages of regulations, unblock the energy permitting process, etc. 

   He has no intention of turning back, and he is past the point of electability unless he does so. Barring a total melt down of the Republican candidate, Obama is done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gs:<br />
&#8220;Obama is vulnerable. Obama is not beyond a point of no return.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Barack has to turn back to save his presidency. He has to return to centrist policies, stop the insane spending, dump Obamacare, roll back his 81,000+ new pages of regulations, unblock the energy permitting process, etc. </p>
<p>   He has no intention of turning back, and he is past the point of electability unless he does so. Barring a total melt down of the Republican candidate, Obama is done.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-267990</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What the H is the matter with Carville? The Dems have succeeded in achieving their agenda beyond their wildest dreams. Obama&#039;s failure is that the public doesn&#039;t like it? Strikes me as &#039;Love the sin, hate the sinner.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the H is the matter with Carville? The Dems have succeeded in achieving their agenda beyond their wildest dreams. Obama&#8217;s failure is that the public doesn&#8217;t like it? Strikes me as &#8216;Love the sin, hate the sinner.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Rickbert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/15/carville-to-obama-time-to-panic/#comment-267951</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I heard Carville being interviewed by Wolf Blitzer on CNN this afternoon.  When Carville said he wanted Obama to, in short, panic, fire his economic team, and start indicting people, Blizter tried to press him for names on who should be indicted.

Carville started sputtering about all the things going wrong with the economy and said you couldn&#039;t have all those things happening without someone doing their jobs so badly they deserved indicting.  

Hard to avoid the impression he was trying desperately hard to find someone besides Obama to blame.  Of course, when referring to the Presidency, indict isn&#039;t exactly the word ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Carville being interviewed by Wolf Blitzer on CNN this afternoon.  When Carville said he wanted Obama to, in short, panic, fire his economic team, and start indicting people, Blizter tried to press him for names on who should be indicted.</p>
<p>Carville started sputtering about all the things going wrong with the economy and said you couldn&#8217;t have all those things happening without someone doing their jobs so badly they deserved indicting.  </p>
<p>Hard to avoid the impression he was trying desperately hard to find someone besides Obama to blame.  Of course, when referring to the Presidency, indict isn&#8217;t exactly the word &#8230;</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MJR: I think the answer is that they have much more in common with each other than they do with most people.  They share an intensity, a boldness, a rabid interest in politics and political shenanigans, a bulldog nature, and the courage of their convictions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJR: I think the answer is that they have much more in common with each other than they do with most people.  They share an intensity, a boldness, a rabid interest in politics and political shenanigans, a bulldog nature, and the courage of their convictions.</p>
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