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		By: Sergey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/13/where-is-egypt-heading/#comment-267806</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Muslim Brotherhood (but not Salafists) does not want to seize the power just now. They know what a mess is ahead and do not want to inherit it. Egypt is not a failed state, it is a failed society, actually, a dying society. What we will see quite soon are its death throes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muslim Brotherhood (but not Salafists) does not want to seize the power just now. They know what a mess is ahead and do not want to inherit it. Egypt is not a failed state, it is a failed society, actually, a dying society. What we will see quite soon are its death throes.</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/13/where-is-egypt-heading/#comment-267800</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I wonder what could have happened in about 700 AD to have plunged the whole place into an agriculturally barren and mismanaged s**t hole?&quot;
Climate change. And it happened not in 700 AD, but 3 centures before it, finishing Roman Empire and destroying agriculture in all of Northern Africa. That is when Sahara began to spread, and Libya and Tunisia became a desert.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder what could have happened in about 700 AD to have plunged the whole place into an agriculturally barren and mismanaged s**t hole?&#8221;<br />
Climate change. And it happened not in 700 AD, but 3 centures before it, finishing Roman Empire and destroying agriculture in all of Northern Africa. That is when Sahara began to spread, and Libya and Tunisia became a desert.</p>
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		By: Pat Dooley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/13/where-is-egypt-heading/#comment-267397</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Dooley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://pajamasmedia.com/spengler/2011/09/13/endgame-for-egypt/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spengler&lt;/a&gt; points out where this is headed, and it isn&#039;t good for Egypt.

&quot;Egypt imports half its caloric consumption, 45% of its people are illiterate, its university graduates are unemployable, its $10 billion a year tourism industry is shuttered for the duration, and its foreign exchange reserves are gradually disappearing.&quot;

My wife and I did the Egypt experience in 1991. You couldn&#039;t pay me enough to go back now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/spengler/2011/09/13/endgame-for-egypt/" rel="nofollow">Spengler</a> points out where this is headed, and it isn&#8217;t good for Egypt.</p>
<p>&#8220;Egypt imports half its caloric consumption, 45% of its people are illiterate, its university graduates are unemployable, its $10 billion a year tourism industry is shuttered for the duration, and its foreign exchange reserves are gradually disappearing.&#8221;</p>
<p>My wife and I did the Egypt experience in 1991. You couldn&#8217;t pay me enough to go back now.</p>
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		By: Parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/13/where-is-egypt-heading/#comment-267386</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 04:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is the first administration where I asked such a thing... &quot;

Me too, and I don&#039;t like the thinking/feeling that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is the first administration where I asked such a thing&#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>Me too, and I don&#8217;t like the thinking/feeling that way.</p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/13/where-is-egypt-heading/#comment-267383</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I didnt see the last debate, but on the one previous Bacchmann actually mentioned the unmentionable...&quot;caliphate&quot;.

I cant help but wonder if all this is leading to that...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didnt see the last debate, but on the one previous Bacchmann actually mentioned the unmentionable&#8230;&#8221;caliphate&#8221;.</p>
<p>I cant help but wonder if all this is leading to that&#8230;</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/13/where-is-egypt-heading/#comment-267379</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard:
No, I&#039;m not sure.  But this case sounds like a classic unintended consequences screwup.  

Problem:  Americans consume too much fossil fuels, a non-renewable resource.

Solution:  Make ethanol out of corn.  It&#039;s a renewable resource!

I don&#039;t think the people responsible for banning DDT &lt;i&gt;intended&lt;/i&gt; to kill millions of African children.  They had the best of intentions towards baby birds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard:<br />
No, I&#8217;m not sure.  But this case sounds like a classic unintended consequences screwup.  </p>
<p>Problem:  Americans consume too much fossil fuels, a non-renewable resource.</p>
<p>Solution:  Make ethanol out of corn.  It&#8217;s a renewable resource!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the people responsible for banning DDT <i>intended</i> to kill millions of African children.  They had the best of intentions towards baby birds.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[rickl
You sure the consequences are unintended?
This is the first administration where I asked such a thing without attempting to be snarky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rickl<br />
You sure the consequences are unintended?<br />
This is the first administration where I asked such a thing without attempting to be snarky.</p>
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		By: Rickbert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/13/where-is-egypt-heading/#comment-267359</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Obama is trying to do the right thing by Obama.  As a politician and president that&#039;s hardly news, but it tends to drain consistency and coherence out of his actions, and makes it less predictable what he might do as winds shift.  Best outcome may be that he feels no need to further involve himself in the Middle East before the election.

ziontruth&#039;s comment about Mao being just another Chinese Dynasty brought another historical tidbit to mind.  Islam has had a tradition of it&#039;s military powers securing a sense of legitimacy from it&#039;s religious authorities in exchange for providing protection and a relatively free hand in social and legal affairs (at least as applied to the general populace, as the military is usually granted a degree of exemption).

On some level, I find it hard to see what&#039;s going on in Egypt as anything but the latest chapter in that history, a renegotiation of the terms, if you will.  At which point, it&#039;s down to the old joke with the punchline, &quot;we&#039;ve established what you are, now we&#039;re just haggling over the price.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Obama is trying to do the right thing by Obama.  As a politician and president that&#8217;s hardly news, but it tends to drain consistency and coherence out of his actions, and makes it less predictable what he might do as winds shift.  Best outcome may be that he feels no need to further involve himself in the Middle East before the election.</p>
<p>ziontruth&#8217;s comment about Mao being just another Chinese Dynasty brought another historical tidbit to mind.  Islam has had a tradition of it&#8217;s military powers securing a sense of legitimacy from it&#8217;s religious authorities in exchange for providing protection and a relatively free hand in social and legal affairs (at least as applied to the general populace, as the military is usually granted a degree of exemption).</p>
<p>On some level, I find it hard to see what&#8217;s going on in Egypt as anything but the latest chapter in that history, a renegotiation of the terms, if you will.  At which point, it&#8217;s down to the old joke with the punchline, &#8220;we&#8217;ve established what you are, now we&#8217;re just haggling over the price.&#8221;</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/13/where-is-egypt-heading/#comment-267338</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Our boneheaded attempt to subsidize burning food to run our cars has the happy effect of raising food prices and starving millions around the world, thus sparking revolutions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which will spur even more anti-American sentiment.  Demagogues will say, &quot;Americans are taking food out of your mouths in order to fuel their cars.&quot;

Yet the greenies claim that the poor nations hate America because we consume too many resources, including fossil fuels.  The law of unintended consequences strikes again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey:</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>Our boneheaded attempt to subsidize burning food to run our cars has the happy effect of raising food prices and starving millions around the world, thus sparking revolutions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which will spur even more anti-American sentiment.  Demagogues will say, &#8220;Americans are taking food out of your mouths in order to fuel their cars.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet the greenies claim that the poor nations hate America because we consume too many resources, including fossil fuels.  The law of unintended consequences strikes again.</p>
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		By: Paul in Boston		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul in Boston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We subsidise Egypt to the tune of $2 billion a year.  Obama might not do it, but a later President could use that for a lot of leverage.  If they become too hostle, just cancel it and let them eat jihad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We subsidise Egypt to the tune of $2 billion a year.  Obama might not do it, but a later President could use that for a lot of leverage.  If they become too hostle, just cancel it and let them eat jihad.</p>
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