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		By: Modern and Vintage Stuff on Sale		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/01/ann-coulter-on-the-gaps-in-evolution/#comment-310109</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Modern and Vintage Stuff on Sale...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]neo-neocon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ann Coulter on the &#8220;gaps&#8221; in evolution[...]...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Modern and Vintage Stuff on Sale&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>[&#8230;]neo-neocon &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; Ann Coulter on the &#8220;gaps&#8221; in evolution[&#8230;]&#8230;</p>
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		By: zipper		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/01/ann-coulter-on-the-gaps-in-evolution/#comment-300008</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good post in the Brussels Journal: The truth about Hungary.  Three sentences jumped out that apply to this debate.

To extrapolate without being encumbered by the facts suits many needs.

Obviously, reality failed to conform to the needs of propaganda.

This way the truth is not what it is but what it is pretended to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post in the Brussels Journal: The truth about Hungary.  Three sentences jumped out that apply to this debate.</p>
<p>To extrapolate without being encumbered by the facts suits many needs.</p>
<p>Obviously, reality failed to conform to the needs of propaganda.</p>
<p>This way the truth is not what it is but what it is pretended to be.</p>
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		By: physical therapy medical billing		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/01/ann-coulter-on-the-gaps-in-evolution/#comment-278810</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physical therapy medical billing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>[&#8230;]neo-neocon &raquo; Blog Archive &raquo; Ann Coulter on the &#8220;gaps&#8221; in evolution[&#8230;]&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ariel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, but after &quot;weren&#039;t&quot; in my post of 09/24 1915 hrs. should be &quot;bipedal&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but after &#8220;weren&#8217;t&#8221; in my post of 09/24 1915 hrs. should be &#8220;bipedal&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Ariel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/01/ann-coulter-on-the-gaps-in-evolution/#comment-270449</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ariel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey (all posts),

There is something you have to dissuade yourself in your arguments. Evolution is not, and has never been, about perfection. Never. Period.

It&#039;s about an imperfect best fit to environmental niches, because the morphology has antecedents. We, as bipeds with muscles that are strained by bipedalism because our ancestors weren&#039;t (really, why should bipeds suffer constant back trauma, shouldn&#039;t those small, short, numerous muscles be larger, longer, and less numerous for perfection&#039;s sake?), are a perfect example.

Hope you get this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey (all posts),</p>
<p>There is something you have to dissuade yourself in your arguments. Evolution is not, and has never been, about perfection. Never. Period.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about an imperfect best fit to environmental niches, because the morphology has antecedents. We, as bipeds with muscles that are strained by bipedalism because our ancestors weren&#8217;t (really, why should bipeds suffer constant back trauma, shouldn&#8217;t those small, short, numerous muscles be larger, longer, and less numerous for perfection&#8217;s sake?), are a perfect example.</p>
<p>Hope you get this.</p>
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		By: zipper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The mystery of the living organism resides in its form.  Every part and every process, its entire structure, springs from that form.But what is this form, this principle of order from which the creature derives its life?  To answer that question in a Christian key,one needs to recall the rudiments of metaphysical doctrine:  the momentous claim that the creation is a theophany, and that every creature is by its nature ls a kind of effigy of the eternal Wisdom, as St. Bonaventure has declared.  It follows, then, that what we have called the basic form of the organism can be nothing less than the manifestation of an eternal archetype subsisting in the Logos or Wisdom of God.  In the final count, what shines through the form as the principle of order and the source of life is the logos itself.  

Wolfgang Smith  Cosmos and Transcdence]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mystery of the living organism resides in its form.  Every part and every process, its entire structure, springs from that form.But what is this form, this principle of order from which the creature derives its life?  To answer that question in a Christian key,one needs to recall the rudiments of metaphysical doctrine:  the momentous claim that the creation is a theophany, and that every creature is by its nature ls a kind of effigy of the eternal Wisdom, as St. Bonaventure has declared.  It follows, then, that what we have called the basic form of the organism can be nothing less than the manifestation of an eternal archetype subsisting in the Logos or Wisdom of God.  In the final count, what shines through the form as the principle of order and the source of life is the logos itself.  </p>
<p>Wolfgang Smith  Cosmos and Transcdence</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[would it be too much to ax for a link to these studies???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would it be too much to ax for a link to these studies???</p>
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		By: Ariel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/09/01/ann-coulter-on-the-gaps-in-evolution/#comment-266918</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 02:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now for more fun: when the studies for mitochondrial DNA said that current humans are from one female, the creationists went hog wild about how Eve was proved, thus Genesis. But there was a problem....

Mitochondrial DNA is passed overwhelmingly through the female (no male product of a female passes it statistically). Get the drift? A few females would be expected (whether you use 40K or 80K for H. Sapiens Sapiens, because of the variability of female menarche and first pregnancy, use 16 then 30 in the calc), and at this point it&#039;s only one (as best as can be determined, if it becomes two, damn Genesis is really screwed). So, Eve becomes a chimera...because, genetically, there were a bunch of Eves but only one genetically survived to this point.

I&#039;m still working on the transgendered Eve (that rib was male) as well all the incest (you know, brother and sister, first cousins, etc. and if it wasn&#039;t then no Adam and Eve)....Do any of you who take the Bible literally think of any of this? It&#039;s a powerful philosophical document to me as an atheist (I obviously neglect G*d as the source), with all sorts of insight to the human condition, but really, incest?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now for more fun: when the studies for mitochondrial DNA said that current humans are from one female, the creationists went hog wild about how Eve was proved, thus Genesis. But there was a problem&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mitochondrial DNA is passed overwhelmingly through the female (no male product of a female passes it statistically). Get the drift? A few females would be expected (whether you use 40K or 80K for H. Sapiens Sapiens, because of the variability of female menarche and first pregnancy, use 16 then 30 in the calc), and at this point it&#8217;s only one (as best as can be determined, if it becomes two, damn Genesis is really screwed). So, Eve becomes a chimera&#8230;because, genetically, there were a bunch of Eves but only one genetically survived to this point.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still working on the transgendered Eve (that rib was male) as well all the incest (you know, brother and sister, first cousins, etc. and if it wasn&#8217;t then no Adam and Eve)&#8230;.Do any of you who take the Bible literally think of any of this? It&#8217;s a powerful philosophical document to me as an atheist (I obviously neglect G*d as the source), with all sorts of insight to the human condition, but really, incest?</p>
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		By: Ariel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jpintx,

If you really want perspective, the two Genesis myths (nothing pejorative) are guesses, ID is a hypothesis (with logical problems of &quot;argument from incredulity&quot; and &quot;god of the gaps&quot;) that has only offered argument but no research and falsifiability (and assumes that disproving Evolution proves ID, another logical fallacy), and the theory called &quot;Evolution&quot;. This is an ordered degree of probability, with Genesis (both myths) as the lowest and Evolution as the highest. ID does not fall in the middle. All from evidence, and Sergey notwithstanding, buttressed by genetics. BTW, statistically, you start off with over 100 mutations (expected by cell divisions, each one having a very, very slight mistake). Not to worry, you&#039;re still homo sapiens sapiens, but a long time ago...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jpintx,</p>
<p>If you really want perspective, the two Genesis myths (nothing pejorative) are guesses, ID is a hypothesis (with logical problems of &#8220;argument from incredulity&#8221; and &#8220;god of the gaps&#8221;) that has only offered argument but no research and falsifiability (and assumes that disproving Evolution proves ID, another logical fallacy), and the theory called &#8220;Evolution&#8221;. This is an ordered degree of probability, with Genesis (both myths) as the lowest and Evolution as the highest. ID does not fall in the middle. All from evidence, and Sergey notwithstanding, buttressed by genetics. BTW, statistically, you start off with over 100 mutations (expected by cell divisions, each one having a very, very slight mistake). Not to worry, you&#8217;re still homo sapiens sapiens, but a long time ago&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ariel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ariel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I decided to pop back in although I bid adieu on the second of Sept (life gets in the way):

So, after reading I find Sergey is a &quot;believer&quot; in Evolution, just not the current mechanisms. I&#039;m simplifying for brevity.

I&#039;ll give kudos to Richard Aubrey for skepticism but still with an open mind.

And jpintx, theory doesn&#039;t mean what you think it does. In science, it&#039;s a hypothesis (I use &quot;a&quot; because I pronounce the &quot;h&quot;) that has stood test after test to the point of having a very, very low probability of being wrong (in normal lay parlance it&#039;s a law, though in science that&#039;s usually a concept expressed easily in a formula, think Newton, Einstein, or Planck).  Lay parlance on guess, hypothesis, theory, and law is one step down from the meaning in science. However, evolution is fact (no elephants, rhinos, or great apes in the Cretaceous for example), the mechanisms of Evolution are still under review. As Sergey would argue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided to pop back in although I bid adieu on the second of Sept (life gets in the way):</p>
<p>So, after reading I find Sergey is a &#8220;believer&#8221; in Evolution, just not the current mechanisms. I&#8217;m simplifying for brevity.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give kudos to Richard Aubrey for skepticism but still with an open mind.</p>
<p>And jpintx, theory doesn&#8217;t mean what you think it does. In science, it&#8217;s a hypothesis (I use &#8220;a&#8221; because I pronounce the &#8220;h&#8221;) that has stood test after test to the point of having a very, very low probability of being wrong (in normal lay parlance it&#8217;s a law, though in science that&#8217;s usually a concept expressed easily in a formula, think Newton, Einstein, or Planck).  Lay parlance on guess, hypothesis, theory, and law is one step down from the meaning in science. However, evolution is fact (no elephants, rhinos, or great apes in the Cretaceous for example), the mechanisms of Evolution are still under review. As Sergey would argue.</p>
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