A terrific source for more information about Keynes rapid interest in ballet is Jennifer Homans’ ‘Apollo’s Angels’. If you’ve not encountered it, it’s a better-than-average ballet history — with some clearly liberal asides — but her 20th-century research is particularly top-notch. She say next to nothing — quite appropriately so — about Keynes’ economic theories. Seems he was far sharper — and even passionate — about dance than we was about economics. If only he’d have stuck to his strengths …

Maybe the prob with us cons, neo or proto, is that we are orgasmically less dependent.

The “born that way” lie is used to sidestep critical observation of the actual dysfunction in the gay lifestyle. It is also used – through Goebbels-like Big Lie repetition – to sloppily move people from “homosexuality is natural” (as in occurring in nature) to “it’s normal” (which is something else entirely).

Then I will rephrase my question:

I wonder if those with childhoods corrupted by Tom Lehrer had a greater tendency to leave the lib/prog fold than libs who did not grow up with Tom Lehrer.

(If you were never a lib, then the question would not apply to you.)

Like Neo, a lot of her readers had their childhoods corrupted by exposure to Tom Lehrer. This is by no means the first Neo thread that mentions him. (Corrupted? I recall a babysitter shaking her head about our singing “The Old Dope Peddler.”)

I wonder if those with childhoods corrupted by Tom Lehrer, which is an indication of having had lib/prog parents, had a greater tendency to leave the lib/prog fold than libs who did not grow up with Tom Lehrer.

OTOH, some childhood friends of mine who also grew up with Tom Lehrer are as lib as ever.

their Nobel fight was only for the right to debase themselves without approbation. they demanded the free use of the nintendo of its day, and the open expression of the mind in sexuality… ergo how many of them get caught recently with partners dressed up as nazi gestapo sex torturers…

progressive politicians are the ones mostly caught cheating or living double lives..

even going back to moses harmon and his paper lucifer bringer of light later the american eugenicist…

after all, if your going to have rampant sex, your going to want a way to select the good from the extra waste. no?

your going to need abortion. no?

your going to need places to dump kids so you can go back to having sex… no?

your going to have to normalize deviancy as early as possible… no?

your going to have to make a two class system as a whole lot of desires you want require a victim… no?

heck.. Obama momma and her nudie pictures, sleeping around, and so on?

weiner? Max Mosley and his Nazi Sex Slaves? the debasement in Rap?

the promise of higher things revealed in feminism to mean, a race to the bottom in debased sexuality, being used, STDs, infertility, etc… but the elite sure do have fun picking things to play with and unlike the past having to support them…

sex fetish stuff normal for the office…

and on it goes…

and steeped in it, we dont notice it much, except we complain a bit when we do, re jigger ourselves, then sleep again…

yesterday, it was very hard to get the general population to let their women be free and accessible… today, they come with their own sex toys, want to be sex tortured, and are given pamphlets in teen years as to happy and loving anal fisting…

hmmm…. and i am bad for mentioning it, when the feminists/progressives/socialists/ etc are good at making it…

the age of the sociopath is upon us…

[to me the more interesting thing is you have two camps, one says x will happen, the other says Y will happen, Y gets their way, X is right, but we have to continue with Y? what happened to going back and listening to the people that were right, rather than proceed onward with the successful but wrong? might makes right over empiricism? ergo, 100 million captains and no deck hands in a storm… ]