Comments on: Will liberty come to the shores of Tripoli? https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/ A blog about political change, among other things Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:23:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: SteveH https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261880 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:23:51 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261880 I have little doubt Obama wants the middle east more radical to better poke their finger in the eye of America and the west. One of these days we’ll be puzzled why so many couldn’t see the obviousness of Obama’s agenda.

]]> By: Beverly https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261832 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 07:12:42 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261832 John Bachelor, of the AM 770 station (same as Limbaugh), says that Libya’s rebels are led, mostly, by al Qaida-connected radical moslems, and he expects the successor regime to be even worse than Gaddafi’s. And what are we (the Administration and STate Dept.) doing to prevent that?

Nothing. So says John Bachelor, anyway, and he claims to have been following the Libyan situation for some time.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he were right.

I just went to a memorial service for a gay friend. His gay friends, both quite wealthy (one famous) who hosted the event have a sign over their fireplace, “Muslims Are Welcome Here.” Of course, if they ever had any real muslims in their swanky Greenwich Village apartment, they’d be stoned to death. Such is the logic of the liberal mind.

]]> By: JTW https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261826 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 06:06:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261826 The only thing that will come to north Africa (and eventually all of Africa and the middle east) is tyranny, theocracy, and a single large Taliban like state along the lines of Iran or Afghanistan.

This of course will be a major problem for what remains of the nominally free world, as it will be a 2 billion people training school for terrorists and jihadis, the like the world has never seen.

]]> By: Parker https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261820 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 05:00:13 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261820 “Liberty under Sharia?”

That is the question and the answer is no. Everything else is wishful thinking as credible as faith in the tooth fairy.

]]> By: J.J. formerly Jimmy J. https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261755 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 02:43:47 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261755 There are many factions in Libya. Most of them are well armed now. Unlike Egypt where only the army, which preserved order after Mubarack’s departure, has any weapons worth mentioning. John Bolton and some other ME experts fear that Libya could become a failed state much like Somalia – except with oil income that could fuel much mischief. No one knows, of course, but the odds are that Libya will be a thorn in Europe’s and our sides for some time.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261726 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:44:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261726 A thousand apologies.
La griffe du lion.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261724 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:42:27 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261724 See also the piquant statistical explanations of Griffedelion on the “smart middle” or other issues.

]]> By: Artfldgr https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261717 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:18:37 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261717 Liberty under Sharia?

Libyan Draft Constitution: Sharia is ‘Principal Source of Legislation’

blog.heritage.org/2011/08/22/libyan-draft-constitution-sharia-is-principal-source-of-legislation/

]]> By: Peter https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261684 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:18:51 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261684 We will know in a matter of a few months. I lean towards the idea that Libya will be a dictatorship, simply because there has never been a free society Arab nation before, the closest has been Iraq and there is simply no nation willing to invest her sons and daughters, as well as billions of dollars the way America and her pitifully few allies have done.

As to the American Revolution, please do not forget the theological underpinnings of that revolt, it was not simply ideological. The founders were deeply religious, with very few exceptions. They fought for the rights “endowed by our creator.” Islam has no such belief.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/22/will-liberty-come-to-the-shores-of-tripoli/#comment-261660 Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:20:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=8988#comment-261660 Don.
Culture is key but since, to libs, all cultures are perfectly wonderful except ours which is perfectly vile, all cultures lean toward freedom. To say otherwise would be racist.
I generalize in pursuit of making the point that liberals have a very tough time with this issue.
They have to say one thing one time–not all people want democracy [the only way to be free] when it’s useful to thwart, say US actions in Iraq. Or, if the US is not pushing democracy someplace, everybody wants to be free and have elections and all that stuff.
Cultures make the result possible or impossible, but you can’t, as a liberal, say that, either. It would be racist.

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