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					<description><![CDATA[taken and converted from a history timeline:

On the state and local level, American town and city governments were allowed to continue as before but the Progressive Democratic Party political chain, extending upwards to the Gauleiters, existed side by side with the local government establishments. 

Thus, a town could possibly have a non-Progressive Democratic leader and town council, but such persons were merely “rubber stamps” for the local head Progressive Democratic leader. 

the next paragraph was about paramilitary groups... and the SS... but in this case, we have holder, and HHS...  and the SEIU.. (notice how a judge had to tell them not to throw feces)....  as well as the brutal class, and most are not paying attention to obama&#039;s social group that he said would be bigger than the US military...   (you think that if he starts giving out class based jobs to do things as in last century people wont line up?)

By later 2012, there was virtually no distinction between the progressive democratic Party and the american government.

[the policies of the progressive party and the state were one and the same regardless of constitution, or laws... what the progressive party wanted, it got, regardless of protests from the public or if the majority was opposed to it!]

Obama, by this time, had remolded and merged the office of President into the new responsibilities of leader of America and remained leader of the progressive democratic Party. 

The Democrat flag was now the official Flag of America and the American armed forces now wore progressive insignia and swore personal allegiance to the leader. 

In addition, nearly all progressive Party groups were sponsored and in some way connected to the American government

i love this quote rewritten:
&lt;b&gt;Some claim that this confusion arose from Obama’s great failings, his boredom with administrative detail, and his preference for wider questions like foreign affairs.

It seems more like that Obama was satisfied with this system that enabled him to block and nullify any initiative or individual unacceptable to him. &lt;/b&gt;

the original:
Some claim that this confusion arose from Hitler’s great failings, his boredom with administrative detail, and his preference for wider questions like foreign affairs. It seems more like that Hitler was satisfied with this system that enabled him to block and nullify any initiative or individual unacceptable to him. 

who is Jesse Lee?
our Truth Czar!
who was Goebbles?
Minister for Popular Enlightenment...

a truth czar... (but since germans were opposed to communism, they couldnt use czars so called them ministers)

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The White House has named Jesse Lee to a new position within its communications department titled Director of Progressive Media &#038; Online Response. According to The Huffington Post, Lee will essentially be responsible for building up Obama’s online presence as he prepares for his reelection bid, and squashing any negative stories
-=-=-=-=-
&lt;b&gt;The post is a new one for this White House. Rapid response has been the purview of the Democratic National Committee (and will continue to be). Lee&#039;s hire, however, suggests that a portion of it will now be handled from within the administration. It also signals that the White House will be adopting a more aggressive engagement in the online world in the months ahead.&lt;/b&gt;

atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/obama-appoints-truth-czar.html
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

so the democratic national committee responsibilities are becoming one with the state...  that is, they are moving tasks that are party tasks into state departments...  like who?

and about that time, the same time as now... 
the VOLK started acting out and attacking the scape goats.. 

just as blacks and other are now attacking whites as oppressors.. the party is refusing to prosecute them, just as they refused to prosecute the brutal class for actions against the jews... and just like then, they equate capitalism with judaism...

how about on economy?

&lt;blockquote&gt; Economy; Many different policies — not only one. Three main ideas:

   1. &lt;b&gt;A ”third way” between a fully planned socialist economy and a completely free capitalist economy&lt;/b&gt;
   2. Economic self-sufficiency
   3. Concept of war economy (Wehrwirtschaft)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

we have 1.. and call it crony capitalism.. 

Third Way&#039;s Anne Kim at DNC 2008, Denver
www.flickr.com/photos/thirdwaythinktank/3619572299/

today they hide it... calling it CENTRISM

Third Way (centrism) (wiki)

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The Third Way refers to various political positions which try to reconcile right-wing and left-wing politics by advocating a varying synthesis of right-wing economic and left-wing social policies.[1] Third Way approaches are commonly viewed from within the first- and second-way perspectives as representing a centrist reconciliation between capitalism and state socialist command economy.[2][3] Less often, the phrase &quot;Third Way&quot; is used to refer to Distributism. Democratic socialism would be an example of a Third Way.[4] This claim is embodied in the alternative description of the Third Way as the Radical center.

Third Way policies were enacted in the 1980s in Australia by the Hawke/Keating Labor governments.[5] The most recent prominent examples are the Clinton administrations in the United States as well as 2008 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton,[6] the Labour Party (New Labour) governments of the United Kingdom under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, Gerhard Schré¶der&#039;s &quot;Neue Mitte&quot; in Germany[7] the Liberal Party government of Canada under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin, the Australian Labor Party under Kevin Rudd, the Polder Model under Wim Kok in the Netherlands, the Democratic Party - demokraci.pl in Poland and the previous Labour government in New Zealand, led by current UNDP Administrator Helen Clark.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

how about the speeches of economic self sufficiency? 

how about the wars dont stop? 
and we refuse to respect sovereignty?

from the history timeline:
All these ideas formed a part of Nazi economic thinking, but they were never coordinated into a single economic strategy.
      &lt;b&gt;The big winners of the Nazi economic policy were large industrial companies, especially those geared to rearmament.&lt;/b&gt;

and who are the winners of Obama? 
the auto industry he nationalised [Too]

the banking industry he nationalized through regulation [Too]

the schools he took over with by controlling who gets funded? 

big companies can buy uo small company ip now... 
its a feild day as they are consolodating into larger state controlled entities. 

it takes years... not weeks

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;b&gt;If the big winners were big business who paid for their success...&lt;/b&gt;

   1. &lt;b&gt;Small business&lt;/b&gt;. Due to government measures about 20% of all small enterprises had to close while the big business grew

   2. &lt;b&gt;Industrial workers&lt;/b&gt;. In general the take-home pay of industrial workers fell and the hours per week increased. 

All trade union rights had been removed. The unions were replaced by DAF - the German Laborfront (Deutsche Arbeitsfront)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

sound familiar YET?

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Some groups experienced a small improvement but still had to face some set backs;

    * &lt;b&gt;Artisans&lt;/b&gt;. This group won some concessions with government backing. Still the number of independent artisans declined between 1936 and 1939
    *
      Farmers. Some experienced a small improvement but some rules (some nearly feudal) curtailed what could have become a bigger improvement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

pigford... the national endowment for the arts being tasks for the leader and the cause... departments of state helping campaigns... as if the state and the party are indistinguishable...

from the same wiki page
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Past invocations of a political &#039;third way&#039; or a &#039;middle way&#039; have included the Fabian Socialism, Distributism, Technocracy (bureaucratic), Keynesian economics, Franklin Roosevelt&#039;s New Deal, Italian Fascism under Benito Mussolini,[11] Harold Macmillan&#039;s 1950s One Nation Conservatism[12] and Phillip Blond&#039;s Red Toryism.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ok... is it clear yet? 

when communism fell that left only ONE form of dictatorship on the table... Fascism... with China booming using that model, and maintaining power. 

guess what won in 1995? 

not capitalism... fascism... 

and just read that list... and the third way CEntrism stuff

its Nazi (nationalizers) all over again... 
the merging of party and state and the outing of all other parties, with the idea of not having to listen to anyone else. 

its all the same

and its the SAME TARGETS... 

dont think so? 
then let the socialists tell you THEMSELVES

from World Socialism org
(world socialism is communism)

www.worldsocialism.org/canada/marx.and.antisemitism.1960.v27n214.htm 

its a interesting piece in which they point out marx antisemitism, and the left apologist then comes up with excuses a to marx was in a bad mood.. 

but one of the more telling is this in which they are so focused on one point that their point then proves what they wish to disprove:
&lt;blockquote&gt;A sample of the manner in which Runes embellishes Marx is the following, taken from his book (pages vii, viii)

&quot;&lt;b&gt;The identification of Judaism with usury and exploitation of the masses&lt;/b&gt;, combined with an alleged secret master plan of the Jews with headquarters in Jerusalem to dominate the rest of the world, has been, and still is, the fundamental platform of political anti-Semitism.&quot;

No Marxist would quarrel with the first part of this quotation. But Runes combines it with something that can be found nowhere in the works of Marx. &lt;b&gt;Anything can be proved in this way.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

but noticed how his attack on the second part, he agrees that Capitalism = Judaism/Christianity

so what will eventually happen is a repeat of history
except that there will be no rescuers this time

helen thomas let the mask slip, it wasnt a fluke]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taken and converted from a history timeline:</p>
<p>On the state and local level, American town and city governments were allowed to continue as before but the Progressive Democratic Party political chain, extending upwards to the Gauleiters, existed side by side with the local government establishments. </p>
<p>Thus, a town could possibly have a non-Progressive Democratic leader and town council, but such persons were merely “rubber stamps” for the local head Progressive Democratic leader. </p>
<p>the next paragraph was about paramilitary groups&#8230; and the SS&#8230; but in this case, we have holder, and HHS&#8230;  and the SEIU.. (notice how a judge had to tell them not to throw feces)&#8230;.  as well as the brutal class, and most are not paying attention to obama&#8217;s social group that he said would be bigger than the US military&#8230;   (you think that if he starts giving out class based jobs to do things as in last century people wont line up?)</p>
<p>By later 2012, there was virtually no distinction between the progressive democratic Party and the american government.</p>
<p>[the policies of the progressive party and the state were one and the same regardless of constitution, or laws&#8230; what the progressive party wanted, it got, regardless of protests from the public or if the majority was opposed to it!]</p>
<p>Obama, by this time, had remolded and merged the office of President into the new responsibilities of leader of America and remained leader of the progressive democratic Party. </p>
<p>The Democrat flag was now the official Flag of America and the American armed forces now wore progressive insignia and swore personal allegiance to the leader. </p>
<p>In addition, nearly all progressive Party groups were sponsored and in some way connected to the American government</p>
<p>i love this quote rewritten:<br />
<b>Some claim that this confusion arose from Obama’s great failings, his boredom with administrative detail, and his preference for wider questions like foreign affairs.</p>
<p>It seems more like that Obama was satisfied with this system that enabled him to block and nullify any initiative or individual unacceptable to him. </b></p>
<p>the original:<br />
Some claim that this confusion arose from Hitler’s great failings, his boredom with administrative detail, and his preference for wider questions like foreign affairs. It seems more like that Hitler was satisfied with this system that enabled him to block and nullify any initiative or individual unacceptable to him. </p>
<p>who is Jesse Lee?<br />
our Truth Czar!<br />
who was Goebbles?<br />
Minister for Popular Enlightenment&#8230;</p>
<p>a truth czar&#8230; (but since germans were opposed to communism, they couldnt use czars so called them ministers)</p>
<blockquote><p>
The White House has named Jesse Lee to a new position within its communications department titled Director of Progressive Media &amp; Online Response. According to The Huffington Post, Lee will essentially be responsible for building up Obama’s online presence as he prepares for his reelection bid, and squashing any negative stories<br />
-=-=-=-=-<br />
<b>The post is a new one for this White House. Rapid response has been the purview of the Democratic National Committee (and will continue to be). Lee&#8217;s hire, however, suggests that a portion of it will now be handled from within the administration. It also signals that the White House will be adopting a more aggressive engagement in the online world in the months ahead.</b></p>
<p>atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/05/obama-appoints-truth-czar.html
</p></blockquote>
<p>so the democratic national committee responsibilities are becoming one with the state&#8230;  that is, they are moving tasks that are party tasks into state departments&#8230;  like who?</p>
<p>and about that time, the same time as now&#8230;<br />
the VOLK started acting out and attacking the scape goats.. </p>
<p>just as blacks and other are now attacking whites as oppressors.. the party is refusing to prosecute them, just as they refused to prosecute the brutal class for actions against the jews&#8230; and just like then, they equate capitalism with judaism&#8230;</p>
<p>how about on economy?</p>
<blockquote><p> Economy; Many different policies — not only one. Three main ideas:</p>
<p>   1. <b>A ”third way” between a fully planned socialist economy and a completely free capitalist economy</b><br />
   2. Economic self-sufficiency<br />
   3. Concept of war economy (Wehrwirtschaft)
</p></blockquote>
<p>we have 1.. and call it crony capitalism.. </p>
<p>Third Way&#8217;s Anne Kim at DNC 2008, Denver<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/thirdwaythinktank/3619572299/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.flickr.com/photos/thirdwaythinktank/3619572299/</a></p>
<p>today they hide it&#8230; calling it CENTRISM</p>
<p>Third Way (centrism) (wiki)</p>
<blockquote><p>
The Third Way refers to various political positions which try to reconcile right-wing and left-wing politics by advocating a varying synthesis of right-wing economic and left-wing social policies.[1] Third Way approaches are commonly viewed from within the first- and second-way perspectives as representing a centrist reconciliation between capitalism and state socialist command economy.[2][3] Less often, the phrase &#8220;Third Way&#8221; is used to refer to Distributism. Democratic socialism would be an example of a Third Way.[4] This claim is embodied in the alternative description of the Third Way as the Radical center.</p>
<p>Third Way policies were enacted in the 1980s in Australia by the Hawke/Keating Labor governments.[5] The most recent prominent examples are the Clinton administrations in the United States as well as 2008 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton,[6] the Labour Party (New Labour) governments of the United Kingdom under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, Gerhard Schré¶der&#8217;s &#8220;Neue Mitte&#8221; in Germany[7] the Liberal Party government of Canada under Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin, the Australian Labor Party under Kevin Rudd, the Polder Model under Wim Kok in the Netherlands, the Democratic Party &#8211; demokraci.pl in Poland and the previous Labour government in New Zealand, led by current UNDP Administrator Helen Clark.</p></blockquote>
<p>how about the speeches of economic self sufficiency? </p>
<p>how about the wars dont stop?<br />
and we refuse to respect sovereignty?</p>
<p>from the history timeline:<br />
All these ideas formed a part of Nazi economic thinking, but they were never coordinated into a single economic strategy.<br />
      <b>The big winners of the Nazi economic policy were large industrial companies, especially those geared to rearmament.</b></p>
<p>and who are the winners of Obama?<br />
the auto industry he nationalised [Too]</p>
<p>the banking industry he nationalized through regulation [Too]</p>
<p>the schools he took over with by controlling who gets funded? </p>
<p>big companies can buy uo small company ip now&#8230;<br />
its a feild day as they are consolodating into larger state controlled entities. </p>
<p>it takes years&#8230; not weeks</p>
<blockquote><p>
<b>If the big winners were big business who paid for their success&#8230;</b></p>
<p>   1. <b>Small business</b>. Due to government measures about 20% of all small enterprises had to close while the big business grew</p>
<p>   2. <b>Industrial workers</b>. In general the take-home pay of industrial workers fell and the hours per week increased. </p>
<p>All trade union rights had been removed. The unions were replaced by DAF &#8211; the German Laborfront (Deutsche Arbeitsfront)</p></blockquote>
<p>sound familiar YET?</p>
<blockquote><p>
Some groups experienced a small improvement but still had to face some set backs;</p>
<p>    * <b>Artisans</b>. This group won some concessions with government backing. Still the number of independent artisans declined between 1936 and 1939<br />
    *<br />
      Farmers. Some experienced a small improvement but some rules (some nearly feudal) curtailed what could have become a bigger improvement.</p></blockquote>
<p>pigford&#8230; the national endowment for the arts being tasks for the leader and the cause&#8230; departments of state helping campaigns&#8230; as if the state and the party are indistinguishable&#8230;</p>
<p>from the same wiki page</p>
<blockquote><p><i><b>Past invocations of a political &#8216;third way&#8217; or a &#8216;middle way&#8217; have included the Fabian Socialism, Distributism, Technocracy (bureaucratic), Keynesian economics, Franklin Roosevelt&#8217;s New Deal, Italian Fascism under Benito Mussolini,[11] Harold Macmillan&#8217;s 1950s One Nation Conservatism[12] and Phillip Blond&#8217;s Red Toryism.</b></i></p></blockquote>
<p>ok&#8230; is it clear yet? </p>
<p>when communism fell that left only ONE form of dictatorship on the table&#8230; Fascism&#8230; with China booming using that model, and maintaining power. </p>
<p>guess what won in 1995? </p>
<p>not capitalism&#8230; fascism&#8230; </p>
<p>and just read that list&#8230; and the third way CEntrism stuff</p>
<p>its Nazi (nationalizers) all over again&#8230;<br />
the merging of party and state and the outing of all other parties, with the idea of not having to listen to anyone else. </p>
<p>its all the same</p>
<p>and its the SAME TARGETS&#8230; </p>
<p>dont think so?<br />
then let the socialists tell you THEMSELVES</p>
<p>from World Socialism org<br />
(world socialism is communism)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldsocialism.org/canada/marx.and.antisemitism.1960.v27n214.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.worldsocialism.org/canada/marx.and.antisemitism.1960.v27n214.htm</a> </p>
<p>its a interesting piece in which they point out marx antisemitism, and the left apologist then comes up with excuses a to marx was in a bad mood.. </p>
<p>but one of the more telling is this in which they are so focused on one point that their point then proves what they wish to disprove:</p>
<blockquote><p>A sample of the manner in which Runes embellishes Marx is the following, taken from his book (pages vii, viii)</p>
<p>&#8220;<b>The identification of Judaism with usury and exploitation of the masses</b>, combined with an alleged secret master plan of the Jews with headquarters in Jerusalem to dominate the rest of the world, has been, and still is, the fundamental platform of political anti-Semitism.&#8221;</p>
<p>No Marxist would quarrel with the first part of this quotation. But Runes combines it with something that can be found nowhere in the works of Marx. <b>Anything can be proved in this way.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>but noticed how his attack on the second part, he agrees that Capitalism = Judaism/Christianity</p>
<p>so what will eventually happen is a repeat of history<br />
except that there will be no rescuers this time</p>
<p>helen thomas let the mask slip, it wasnt a fluke</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[just so its CLEAR in its parallels of Gleichshaltung... 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Hitler and Nazi ideologists had foreseen that for Germany to become a dictatorship, the Nazi Party and the German government had to become one and the same. To accomplish this, measures were enacted to merge the German government with the Nazi Party. On the federal level, all German Ministries were staffed with Nazi officials who, in turn, appointed other Nazis to civil service positions within the government. A vast and complex Nazi party civil service system then developed which had, by 1935, completely taken over the German government.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just replace hitler with you know who
just replace german, with american
and replace nazi, with  Progressive Democrat... 


&lt;blockquote&gt;
Obama and Progressive Democratic ideologists had foreseen that for America to become a dictatorship, the Progressive Democratic Party and the American government had to become one and the same. 
To accomplish this, measures were enacted to merge the American government with the Democratic Party. 
On the federal level, all American governments were staffed with Progressive Democratic  officials who, in turn, appointed other Progressive Democrats  to civil service positions within the government. 
A vast and complex Progressive Democratic  party civil service system then developed which had, by 1935, completely taken over the American government.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

what people fantasize thanks to movies is that they get power, and a week later there are posters and flags and so on and so forth... 

no... they get power then they have to change the state in certain ways... of course if you dont know this, know the history, and so on, you will imagine that the moves of Gleichshaltung would be just party trying to gain advantage while it can

but what is not being noticed is that these are ILLEGAL changes and changes that are ignoring law... 

ie... the restructuring is violating the law to get its structure in place... and people like krugman are a distraction from any real debate or real action... 

ie... his purpose is to prevent consensus on what they dont want, to happen in the peoples minds... ie... as long as there are people with false credentials (earned by stacking the board who gives them out), there are people who will refuse, like hux, just to be reawsonable. 

oh... they would choose if they knew 110%, but less than that, they will just stand around... even if it changes, they will continue to try to act the same and not change their behavior... that is until someone shatters their idea of their reality and there is no more way to skirt or play with it, no matter how many krugmans

anyone noticing the authoritarian dictatorship that is now russia, and how it has nuclear weapons, and how its now also teamed up solidly with China... 

any one realize that they have their fingers on a grenade stuffed up the oompa of the american people and are going to pull that pin... 

when?   2012.. 

&lt;b&gt;here, let me make it EASY... &lt;/b&gt;

if you had the worst president in the history of the US in office, and your goal was the removal and destruction of that state, and your open about it, then would you want them to replace him with another person just as you have been able to maneuver things to take advantage of it in spades? 

ie... does russia and china do better in their END GOALS if Obadiah stays or goes? 

right now we have similar structures, similar skirting of the law, the same ideology, external agents helping, and on and on.. 

&lt;b&gt;heck... given what Reagan did to the soviets would you think that they, given history of man, would just let it rest and NOT persue the same in revenge?&lt;/b&gt;

Putin Calls U.S. ‘Parasite’ as Russia Gobbles Its Debt
www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-18/putin-slams-u-s-parasite-after-1-600-jump-in-russia-holdings.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just so its CLEAR in its parallels of Gleichshaltung&#8230; </p>
<blockquote><p>
Hitler and Nazi ideologists had foreseen that for Germany to become a dictatorship, the Nazi Party and the German government had to become one and the same. To accomplish this, measures were enacted to merge the German government with the Nazi Party. On the federal level, all German Ministries were staffed with Nazi officials who, in turn, appointed other Nazis to civil service positions within the government. A vast and complex Nazi party civil service system then developed which had, by 1935, completely taken over the German government.</p></blockquote>
<p>Just replace hitler with you know who<br />
just replace german, with american<br />
and replace nazi, with  Progressive Democrat&#8230; </p>
<blockquote><p>
Obama and Progressive Democratic ideologists had foreseen that for America to become a dictatorship, the Progressive Democratic Party and the American government had to become one and the same.<br />
To accomplish this, measures were enacted to merge the American government with the Democratic Party.<br />
On the federal level, all American governments were staffed with Progressive Democratic  officials who, in turn, appointed other Progressive Democrats  to civil service positions within the government.<br />
A vast and complex Progressive Democratic  party civil service system then developed which had, by 1935, completely taken over the American government.
</p></blockquote>
<p>what people fantasize thanks to movies is that they get power, and a week later there are posters and flags and so on and so forth&#8230; </p>
<p>no&#8230; they get power then they have to change the state in certain ways&#8230; of course if you dont know this, know the history, and so on, you will imagine that the moves of Gleichshaltung would be just party trying to gain advantage while it can</p>
<p>but what is not being noticed is that these are ILLEGAL changes and changes that are ignoring law&#8230; </p>
<p>ie&#8230; the restructuring is violating the law to get its structure in place&#8230; and people like krugman are a distraction from any real debate or real action&#8230; </p>
<p>ie&#8230; his purpose is to prevent consensus on what they dont want, to happen in the peoples minds&#8230; ie&#8230; as long as there are people with false credentials (earned by stacking the board who gives them out), there are people who will refuse, like hux, just to be reawsonable. </p>
<p>oh&#8230; they would choose if they knew 110%, but less than that, they will just stand around&#8230; even if it changes, they will continue to try to act the same and not change their behavior&#8230; that is until someone shatters their idea of their reality and there is no more way to skirt or play with it, no matter how many krugmans</p>
<p>anyone noticing the authoritarian dictatorship that is now russia, and how it has nuclear weapons, and how its now also teamed up solidly with China&#8230; </p>
<p>any one realize that they have their fingers on a grenade stuffed up the oompa of the american people and are going to pull that pin&#8230; </p>
<p>when?   2012.. </p>
<p><b>here, let me make it EASY&#8230; </b></p>
<p>if you had the worst president in the history of the US in office, and your goal was the removal and destruction of that state, and your open about it, then would you want them to replace him with another person just as you have been able to maneuver things to take advantage of it in spades? </p>
<p>ie&#8230; does russia and china do better in their END GOALS if Obadiah stays or goes? </p>
<p>right now we have similar structures, similar skirting of the law, the same ideology, external agents helping, and on and on.. </p>
<p><b>heck&#8230; given what Reagan did to the soviets would you think that they, given history of man, would just let it rest and NOT persue the same in revenge?</b></p>
<p>Putin Calls U.S. ‘Parasite’ as Russia Gobbles Its Debt<br />
<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-18/putin-slams-u-s-parasite-after-1-600-jump-in-russia-holdings.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-18/putin-slams-u-s-parasite-after-1-600-jump-in-russia-holdings.html</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[This day in history August 19 

1934:Germans voted to make Adolf Hitler their Fuhrer.

On August 19, about 95 percent of registered voters in Germany went to the polls and gave Hitler 38 million votes of approval (90 percent of the vote).

it took about 5 years for the changes and structuring (Gliecshaltung) to be set before the mask came off... and all of the world to reach Sept 1 1939

Germany had huge unemployment, but the having to build up material for war and defense as a solution, brought the nation to full employment... 

as would a similar action which would cut the US off from China, or others... 

one should understand that Krugman is like all despotic economists serving a cause..  his answer can NEVER be less, for to those that judge his loyalty and grant him his place and butter his bread, would no longer do so. he pimps the line he earns from

&lt;b&gt;According to Krugman, his interest in economics began with Isaac Asimov&#039;s Foundation novels, in which the social scientists of the future use &quot;psychohistory&quot; to attempt to save civilization. Since &quot;psychohistory&quot; in Asimov&#039;s sense of the word does not exist, Krugman turned to economics, which he considered the next best thing.&lt;/b&gt;

ie.. a fanatic who would save he world... 

by the way that mentality was key to the people who served the new fascist state, a hybrid of capitalism and communist socialism, where they would seek to control the beast of capitalism and domesticate it through state laws, decrees, licenses, taxes, and if needed nationalizing and helping construct larger monopolies, seeking to tame and use the economy. 

the communists did not think that what the business men did was special enough or complicated enough and so envisioned taking control themselves and just switching people (much like feminism in europe)... 

the germans thought, as with italy, that these people are needed to do what they do, but they should do it with an eye for and from the state... 

BOTH saw Capitalism = Judaism/Christianity

and so the easiest way to end it as a free thing outside of the domesticated false system that appears like it (but is completely controlled), was to destroy western civilization and exterminate its people... 

which is why, if we didnt accept the immigration breaking, we would notice the demographic genocide

Krugman comes from the communist idea in the US that all ideas are ok, even bad ones like communism, its just that we have to discuss them and fund them to make them work, and so are allowed on the table. 

ie... his job is to NORMALIZE the abnormal by constant extreme advocacy... ie... he got his nobel prize not because he was right, but because having one and haivng him spout is something the left can use!!!!!    

while hayek recieved a nobel before krugman for disproving krugman (Technically)

what i have noticed is that they give an AFFECTATION of understanding... but dont really. i ahve noticed this in the geneticists too...  but all one has to do is ask a question which reveals this, and they go ape sh* t

The Poverty and Poison of Paul Krugman
by William L. Anderson
www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson207.html


but thats the point... that these are lies, and that we are NOT allowed to call out lies, and are to accept them as an alternaticve truth

of course who set us up and trained us for 4 generations to accept lies and contradictions as normal, and unassailable? 

women are as good at X as men are

the reason that they dont do as well, is that there is a conspiracy to skew the tests against them

even though men and women are the same in this ideology, women are better... 

a 120lb woman can demolish a 240 lb man with weapons... and not muss her hair.

a woman can bring home the bacon, fry it up in the pan, and never let you forget your a man... (the soviet new socialist woman delivered to us by madison ave)

who taught us that having women on a team is magtically productive?   that we are equal but they multitask better? 

you see... &lt;b&gt;its an ideology of contradictions and outright lies&lt;/b&gt; in which one has to accept the ego position of the truth to counter...  and what woman would gladly accept that she is not pretty? or as desireable (any one notice how they want equality of selection?)

or how about this kind of contradiction:
&quot;[W]omen, like men, should not have to bear children.... The destruction of the biological family, never envisioned by Freud, will allow the emergence of new women and men, different from any people who have previously existed.&quot; -- Alison Jaggar, Political Philosophies of Women&#039;s Liberation: Feminism and Philosophy, (Totowa, NJ: Littlefield, Adams &#038; Co. 1977)

heck... they sell birth control as freedom from being a woman and having periods... i guess that now we have batmitzvahs we dont need periods... that is a privelege of the elite. 

but the bigger point is that once you normalize living on contradictions...

then you can no longer separate the invalid lies from the valid debateable points, everything is equal... nothing can be cast out for invalidity... 

how can you cast out krugmans communist finances as neo liberal capitalism if you live a life of similar contradictions and there aint no way your going to clean house only in one corner. 

and so, as i said, until we are willing to cast out the cancers that make abnormal thinking normal... we wont have the thought procesesss to oppose organized assauts on our thinking disguises as honest debate with everything on the table 

personally, its inane to have everything on the table,and its NOT A GOOD THING... 

ie... if everything on the table is allowed, then lies are allowed... then human executions are allowed. then gulags are allowed... social engineering... communism.. gutting the constitition, etc. 

and after, they will say, what part of everything did you not understand when you ACCEPTED it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This day in history August 19 </p>
<p>1934:Germans voted to make Adolf Hitler their Fuhrer.</p>
<p>On August 19, about 95 percent of registered voters in Germany went to the polls and gave Hitler 38 million votes of approval (90 percent of the vote).</p>
<p>it took about 5 years for the changes and structuring (Gliecshaltung) to be set before the mask came off&#8230; and all of the world to reach Sept 1 1939</p>
<p>Germany had huge unemployment, but the having to build up material for war and defense as a solution, brought the nation to full employment&#8230; </p>
<p>as would a similar action which would cut the US off from China, or others&#8230; </p>
<p>one should understand that Krugman is like all despotic economists serving a cause..  his answer can NEVER be less, for to those that judge his loyalty and grant him his place and butter his bread, would no longer do so. he pimps the line he earns from</p>
<p><b>According to Krugman, his interest in economics began with Isaac Asimov&#8217;s Foundation novels, in which the social scientists of the future use &#8220;psychohistory&#8221; to attempt to save civilization. Since &#8220;psychohistory&#8221; in Asimov&#8217;s sense of the word does not exist, Krugman turned to economics, which he considered the next best thing.</b></p>
<p>ie.. a fanatic who would save he world&#8230; </p>
<p>by the way that mentality was key to the people who served the new fascist state, a hybrid of capitalism and communist socialism, where they would seek to control the beast of capitalism and domesticate it through state laws, decrees, licenses, taxes, and if needed nationalizing and helping construct larger monopolies, seeking to tame and use the economy. </p>
<p>the communists did not think that what the business men did was special enough or complicated enough and so envisioned taking control themselves and just switching people (much like feminism in europe)&#8230; </p>
<p>the germans thought, as with italy, that these people are needed to do what they do, but they should do it with an eye for and from the state&#8230; </p>
<p>BOTH saw Capitalism = Judaism/Christianity</p>
<p>and so the easiest way to end it as a free thing outside of the domesticated false system that appears like it (but is completely controlled), was to destroy western civilization and exterminate its people&#8230; </p>
<p>which is why, if we didnt accept the immigration breaking, we would notice the demographic genocide</p>
<p>Krugman comes from the communist idea in the US that all ideas are ok, even bad ones like communism, its just that we have to discuss them and fund them to make them work, and so are allowed on the table. </p>
<p>ie&#8230; his job is to NORMALIZE the abnormal by constant extreme advocacy&#8230; ie&#8230; he got his nobel prize not because he was right, but because having one and haivng him spout is something the left can use!!!!!    </p>
<p>while hayek recieved a nobel before krugman for disproving krugman (Technically)</p>
<p>what i have noticed is that they give an AFFECTATION of understanding&#8230; but dont really. i ahve noticed this in the geneticists too&#8230;  but all one has to do is ask a question which reveals this, and they go ape sh* t</p>
<p>The Poverty and Poison of Paul Krugman<br />
by William L. Anderson<br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson207.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson207.html</a></p>
<p>but thats the point&#8230; that these are lies, and that we are NOT allowed to call out lies, and are to accept them as an alternaticve truth</p>
<p>of course who set us up and trained us for 4 generations to accept lies and contradictions as normal, and unassailable? </p>
<p>women are as good at X as men are</p>
<p>the reason that they dont do as well, is that there is a conspiracy to skew the tests against them</p>
<p>even though men and women are the same in this ideology, women are better&#8230; </p>
<p>a 120lb woman can demolish a 240 lb man with weapons&#8230; and not muss her hair.</p>
<p>a woman can bring home the bacon, fry it up in the pan, and never let you forget your a man&#8230; (the soviet new socialist woman delivered to us by madison ave)</p>
<p>who taught us that having women on a team is magtically productive?   that we are equal but they multitask better? </p>
<p>you see&#8230; <b>its an ideology of contradictions and outright lies</b> in which one has to accept the ego position of the truth to counter&#8230;  and what woman would gladly accept that she is not pretty? or as desireable (any one notice how they want equality of selection?)</p>
<p>or how about this kind of contradiction:<br />
&#8220;[W]omen, like men, should not have to bear children&#8230;. The destruction of the biological family, never envisioned by Freud, will allow the emergence of new women and men, different from any people who have previously existed.&#8221; &#8212; Alison Jaggar, Political Philosophies of Women&#8217;s Liberation: Feminism and Philosophy, (Totowa, NJ: Littlefield, Adams &amp; Co. 1977)</p>
<p>heck&#8230; they sell birth control as freedom from being a woman and having periods&#8230; i guess that now we have batmitzvahs we dont need periods&#8230; that is a privelege of the elite. </p>
<p>but the bigger point is that once you normalize living on contradictions&#8230;</p>
<p>then you can no longer separate the invalid lies from the valid debateable points, everything is equal&#8230; nothing can be cast out for invalidity&#8230; </p>
<p>how can you cast out krugmans communist finances as neo liberal capitalism if you live a life of similar contradictions and there aint no way your going to clean house only in one corner. </p>
<p>and so, as i said, until we are willing to cast out the cancers that make abnormal thinking normal&#8230; we wont have the thought procesesss to oppose organized assauts on our thinking disguises as honest debate with everything on the table </p>
<p>personally, its inane to have everything on the table,and its NOT A GOOD THING&#8230; </p>
<p>ie&#8230; if everything on the table is allowed, then lies are allowed&#8230; then human executions are allowed. then gulags are allowed&#8230; social engineering&#8230; communism.. gutting the constitition, etc. </p>
<p>and after, they will say, what part of everything did you not understand when you ACCEPTED it?</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, Krugman was very consistent on this, saying from the start that the stimulus was too small.

See, for example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/07/what-the-centrists-have-wrought/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=2167&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Krugman was very consistent on this, saying from the start that the stimulus was too small.</p>
<p>See, for example, <a href="http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/07/what-the-centrists-have-wrought/" rel="nofollow">this</a> and <a href="http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=2167" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would be interested in finding out the proportion of thinking that is objectively concluding that the stimulus was not big enough--or that some other progressive effort failed--and how much is not wanting to admit to having been wrong, and how much is consciously interested in ruining the current system by doubling down.
Said it before, the most likely result of a suggesed action is the intent of the person who suggests it, other assertions notwithstanding.  And the result of an action taken was the actor&#039;s intent, excuses and predictions aand promises notwithstanding.
Exceptions must be proven to a high degree of rigor, which is to say, I hardly ever believe them if the person is over, say, thirteen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be interested in finding out the proportion of thinking that is objectively concluding that the stimulus was not big enough&#8211;or that some other progressive effort failed&#8211;and how much is not wanting to admit to having been wrong, and how much is consciously interested in ruining the current system by doubling down.<br />
Said it before, the most likely result of a suggesed action is the intent of the person who suggests it, other assertions notwithstanding.  And the result of an action taken was the actor&#8217;s intent, excuses and predictions aand promises notwithstanding.<br />
Exceptions must be proven to a high degree of rigor, which is to say, I hardly ever believe them if the person is over, say, thirteen.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[What I would like to know is whether or not Krugman complained at the time of the first stimulus that it was not large enough, and that as a result unemployment would be larger that what Obama claimed it would be without the stimulus.  If so, he is at least being consistent.  If not, he is a partisan hack.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I would like to know is whether or not Krugman complained at the time of the first stimulus that it was not large enough, and that as a result unemployment would be larger that what Obama claimed it would be without the stimulus.  If so, he is at least being consistent.  If not, he is a partisan hack.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo.
See &quot;The Martian Shop&quot;.  I first found it in Fantasy and Science Fiction about fifty years ago.
Guy with lots of money fakes up a Martian infiltration.  Earth pulls together.
Author was an optimist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo.<br />
See &#8220;The Martian Shop&#8221;.  I first found it in Fantasy and Science Fiction about fifty years ago.<br />
Guy with lots of money fakes up a Martian infiltration.  Earth pulls together.<br />
Author was an optimist.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;I personally wrote a blog comment and I can attest to the fact that it saved 10,000 jobs. If you don’t believe me, prove that I didn’t!!!&quot;&quot;
Hangtown Bob

 And i contend if not for wearing my lucky hat to the game, the Braves would have suffered a much greater loss Wednesday against the Giants.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;I personally wrote a blog comment and I can attest to the fact that it saved 10,000 jobs. If you don’t believe me, prove that I didn’t!!!&#8221;&#8221;<br />
Hangtown Bob</p>
<p> And i contend if not for wearing my lucky hat to the game, the Braves would have suffered a much greater loss Wednesday against the Giants.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Parker: you think it wouldn’t? We’d all get that Rosie the Riveter spirit again!&quot;

&quot;The man does have a point.&quot;

When WW2 ended and the troops came home and war spending stopped all was not rosy with the economy.  The economic hay days that blossomed in the 1950-1960s were made possible because we were the only industrial nation that had not suffered the destruction and the horrors of WW2.  We lost many troops but compared to others as a percentage of population it was minimal and we did not suffer the lose of tens of millions of civilians otherwise known as productive workers and consumers. 

The industries that expanded for war production were the only large, undamaged industrial base in the world.  We flooded the world with our products from raw steel to televisions to locomotives to airplanes.  We had no real competitors. And made in America needed no label because pretty much any manufactured consumer item for 20 years could only be made in quantity and quality in America.

By the logic Krugman embraces instead of gearing up to defeat imaginary extra-terrestrials we should make war against other, non-imaginary terrestrials without end.  Lets declare war on the entire Islamic world and build the machines that will be required and draft millions of young men to slaughter and lay waste to every Islamic nation.  Next, lets start a war with China.  That would require even more airplanes, aircraft carriers, tanks, cruise missiles, predator drones, rifles, bullets, etc., and an army of 30 million. Once we defeat China; lets take on Russia, Western Europe, Mexico, and South America.  We&#039;ll all be rich! 

Its the broken window fallacy writ large.  Destruction does not produce wealth, it simply transfers wealth from one pocket to another pocket. Care to break every window in your town and watch the economy grow?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Parker: you think it wouldn’t? We’d all get that Rosie the Riveter spirit again!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The man does have a point.&#8221;</p>
<p>When WW2 ended and the troops came home and war spending stopped all was not rosy with the economy.  The economic hay days that blossomed in the 1950-1960s were made possible because we were the only industrial nation that had not suffered the destruction and the horrors of WW2.  We lost many troops but compared to others as a percentage of population it was minimal and we did not suffer the lose of tens of millions of civilians otherwise known as productive workers and consumers. </p>
<p>The industries that expanded for war production were the only large, undamaged industrial base in the world.  We flooded the world with our products from raw steel to televisions to locomotives to airplanes.  We had no real competitors. And made in America needed no label because pretty much any manufactured consumer item for 20 years could only be made in quantity and quality in America.</p>
<p>By the logic Krugman embraces instead of gearing up to defeat imaginary extra-terrestrials we should make war against other, non-imaginary terrestrials without end.  Lets declare war on the entire Islamic world and build the machines that will be required and draft millions of young men to slaughter and lay waste to every Islamic nation.  Next, lets start a war with China.  That would require even more airplanes, aircraft carriers, tanks, cruise missiles, predator drones, rifles, bullets, etc., and an army of 30 million. Once we defeat China; lets take on Russia, Western Europe, Mexico, and South America.  We&#8217;ll all be rich! </p>
<p>Its the broken window fallacy writ large.  Destruction does not produce wealth, it simply transfers wealth from one pocket to another pocket. Care to break every window in your town and watch the economy grow?</p>
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