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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/04/falling-stocks-rising-fear/#comment-258838</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Two government officials tell ABC News that the federal government is expecting and preparing for bond rating agency Standard &#038; Poor’s to downgrade the rating of US debt from its current AAA value.]]></description>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/04/falling-stocks-rising-fear/#comment-258837</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Russia uses dirty tricks despite U.S. ‘reset’
Intelligence agents tell of intimidation, smears of American officials, diplomats

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/4/russia-uses-dirty-tricks-despite-us-reset/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia uses dirty tricks despite U.S. ‘reset’<br />
Intelligence agents tell of intimidation, smears of American officials, diplomats</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/4/russia-uses-dirty-tricks-despite-us-reset/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/4/russia-uses-dirty-tricks-despite-us-reset/</a></p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/04/falling-stocks-rising-fear/#comment-258836</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 22:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[call me silly... 

but if you look at it the way i see it

1,000,000 raised to the second power times 40 or so.... is a problem.. 

Look.. in the game of hot potato, do you want your money/loans sitting in a 1933 Germany? how about a 1916 Russia?  

The idea that something that hates something would be the best keeper is how dumb the population is...  and the simplest non partisan way i can put it

Everyone around the world, but us knows that America is not what we believe it to be, and also knows that when we cant get to what we believe, America becomes an address... 

As an aside tangent, anyone other than i realize that America is about to become defenseless? 

you cant defend yourself if you cant borrow to cover things and have lines or means of getting those things (or making them). 

and giving up is a signature that congress doesn&#039;t have to be involved in...  in case i forget or missed it.. since giving up was inconceivable to the people who wrote the constitution, there are no provisions for preventing the president from giving up to a foreign power... is there?   

Someone just has to ask the president... 
no? 

the taking possession thing might be hard, but if we were completely at the economic mercy.. well that might just be the price to pay...   or what?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>call me silly&#8230; </p>
<p>but if you look at it the way i see it</p>
<p>1,000,000 raised to the second power times 40 or so&#8230;. is a problem.. </p>
<p>Look.. in the game of hot potato, do you want your money/loans sitting in a 1933 Germany? how about a 1916 Russia?  </p>
<p>The idea that something that hates something would be the best keeper is how dumb the population is&#8230;  and the simplest non partisan way i can put it</p>
<p>Everyone around the world, but us knows that America is not what we believe it to be, and also knows that when we cant get to what we believe, America becomes an address&#8230; </p>
<p>As an aside tangent, anyone other than i realize that America is about to become defenseless? </p>
<p>you cant defend yourself if you cant borrow to cover things and have lines or means of getting those things (or making them). </p>
<p>and giving up is a signature that congress doesn&#8217;t have to be involved in&#8230;  in case i forget or missed it.. since giving up was inconceivable to the people who wrote the constitution, there are no provisions for preventing the president from giving up to a foreign power&#8230; is there?   </p>
<p>Someone just has to ask the president&#8230;<br />
no? </p>
<p>the taking possession thing might be hard, but if we were completely at the economic mercy.. well that might just be the price to pay&#8230;   or what?</p>
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		By: texexec		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The market is tanking as I write this at 10:57am, Friday...

(down 261 and dropping)

We are now paying the piper after decades of economic silliness and living on make believe money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The market is tanking as I write this at 10:57am, Friday&#8230;</p>
<p>(down 261 and dropping)</p>
<p>We are now paying the piper after decades of economic silliness and living on make believe money.</p>
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		By: J.J. formerly Jimmy J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J. formerly Jimmy J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OB said, &quot;J.J., thanks for posting your cri de coeur. Also, please say “hello” to the IRS auditor for us.&quot;

Ya think?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OB said, &#8220;J.J., thanks for posting your cri de coeur. Also, please say “hello” to the IRS auditor for us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ya think?</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 09:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;Curtis asks, ” Question is, have we fallen too far into the abyss to stop?”&quot;

 Well there&#039;s financial abyss which is not to be confused with a quality and interesting life neccessarily slipping into an abyss. I grew up dirt poor and recall it as some rather good times. And even the Great Depression is often refered to by those that went through it as &quot; the good ole days&quot;.

 There may well be a cliff ahead. But it&#039;s important to know we can sew our own parachutes depending in large part on how we choose to percieve and respond to the events.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Curtis asks, ” Question is, have we fallen too far into the abyss to stop?”&#8221;</p>
<p> Well there&#8217;s financial abyss which is not to be confused with a quality and interesting life neccessarily slipping into an abyss. I grew up dirt poor and recall it as some rather good times. And even the Great Depression is often refered to by those that went through it as &#8221; the good ole days&#8221;.</p>
<p> There may well be a cliff ahead. But it&#8217;s important to know we can sew our own parachutes depending in large part on how we choose to percieve and respond to the events.</p>
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		By: Obama&#8217;s Legacy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 06:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Neo-Neocon: It’s small comfort that the US is not alone in its travails–and, in fact, is by no means the closest to the brink. We all know about Greece’s troubles, and now Italy and Spain give special cause for concern. In the understatement of the week: European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso urged European Union officials to reassess the recent bailout funds, as “markets remain to be convinced that we are taking the appropriate steps to resolve the crisis.” [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Neo-Neocon: It’s small comfort that the US is not alone in its travails–and, in fact, is by no means the closest to the brink. We all know about Greece’s troubles, and now Italy and Spain give special cause for concern. In the understatement of the week: European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso urged European Union officials to reassess the recent bailout funds, as “markets remain to be convinced that we are taking the appropriate steps to resolve the crisis.” [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: jms		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/08/04/falling-stocks-rising-fear/#comment-258742</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 05:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The way I see it, this was the last chance for the United States to save their AAA bond rating, and Congress and the President blew it.  The markets wanted a real, if token deficit reduction starting now.  Congress upped the debt limit and Obama responded with a brand new massive deficit blowout of over $300 billion for the July-September quarter.

If the bond rating agencies were waiting to find out what the United States was going to do, they have no reason to wait any longer.  Now they know the intentions of the Obama administration, and what they are doing is the worst case scenario. 

I would not be surprise to see the ratings agencies downgrade the United States debt after the close of markets tomorrow.  I think that a lot of people are getting the same feeling -- like our last chance is now gone.  And I think that that&#039;s a big part of today&#039;s market crash.  I expect the crash to continue.  This debt bill was a disaster.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it, this was the last chance for the United States to save their AAA bond rating, and Congress and the President blew it.  The markets wanted a real, if token deficit reduction starting now.  Congress upped the debt limit and Obama responded with a brand new massive deficit blowout of over $300 billion for the July-September quarter.</p>
<p>If the bond rating agencies were waiting to find out what the United States was going to do, they have no reason to wait any longer.  Now they know the intentions of the Obama administration, and what they are doing is the worst case scenario. </p>
<p>I would not be surprise to see the ratings agencies downgrade the United States debt after the close of markets tomorrow.  I think that a lot of people are getting the same feeling &#8212; like our last chance is now gone.  And I think that that&#8217;s a big part of today&#8217;s market crash.  I expect the crash to continue.  This debt bill was a disaster.</p>
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		By: Barb the Evil Genius		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 03:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And even at that, I still didn&#039;t quite get the phrase &quot;maé±ana and a committee.&quot; But no matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even at that, I still didn&#8217;t quite get the phrase &#8220;maé±ana and a committee.&#8221; But no matter.</p>
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		By: Barb the Evil Genius		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 03:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, Tesh, maé±ana means tomorrow in Spanish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Tesh, maé±ana means tomorrow in Spanish.</p>
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