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		By: davisbr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/07/27/extremism-in-the-debt-ceiling-battle/#comment-257753</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davisbr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 07:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So. It&#039;s come to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EVZwTMmk8c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So. It&#8217;s come to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EVZwTMmk8c" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/07/27/extremism-in-the-debt-ceiling-battle/#comment-257690</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Harry Reid is telling Republicans that they are wasting their time.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/28/reid-spokesman-%e2%80%98boehners-bill-dies-tonight%e2%80%99/

Bill Kristol thinks we are voting for Reid and Pelosi if we vote against a bill that Reid will kill anyway.

ok then...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Reid is telling Republicans that they are wasting their time.</p>
<p><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/28/reid-spokesman-%e2%80%98boehners-bill-dies-tonight%e2%80%99/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/28/reid-spokesman-%e2%80%98boehners-bill-dies-tonight%e2%80%99/</a></p>
<p>Bill Kristol thinks we are voting for Reid and Pelosi if we vote against a bill that Reid will kill anyway.</p>
<p>ok then&#8230;</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/07/27/extremism-in-the-debt-ceiling-battle/#comment-257662</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was wrong. It&#039;s not $1 billion in savings this year it is $22 billion.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/27/cbo-scores-boehners-new-bill-22-billion-in-savings-this-year-917-billion-over-10-years/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wrong. It&#8217;s not $1 billion in savings this year it is $22 billion.</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/27/cbo-scores-boehners-new-bill-22-billion-in-savings-this-year-917-billion-over-10-years/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/27/cbo-scores-boehners-new-bill-22-billion-in-savings-this-year-917-billion-over-10-years/</a></p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/07/27/extremism-in-the-debt-ceiling-battle/#comment-257660</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I get emails from grassfire nation and if this is true, then it changes things:

More &quot;sleight-of-hand&quot; tricks are coming out of Washington.

House Speaker John Boehner is back at the drawing board developing another debt hike bill after being told by the Congressional Budget Office that his prior spending bill  fell far short of the $1 trillion in cuts he promised!

This is fumbling the snap!

Now I know why more people distrust Republicans than Obama on the debt issue!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get emails from grassfire nation and if this is true, then it changes things:</p>
<p>More &#8220;sleight-of-hand&#8221; tricks are coming out of Washington.</p>
<p>House Speaker John Boehner is back at the drawing board developing another debt hike bill after being told by the Congressional Budget Office that his prior spending bill  fell far short of the $1 trillion in cuts he promised!</p>
<p>This is fumbling the snap!</p>
<p>Now I know why more people distrust Republicans than Obama on the debt issue!</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/07/27/extremism-in-the-debt-ceiling-battle/#comment-257658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard wrote, &quot;&lt;em&gt;The point is for the House to pass it, and then fro members appear on every news show, newspaper, talking head show, blog, twitter and facebook page and say, “Yes we did!”&lt;/em&gt;

I don&#039;t know what you think.

I hear what you are saying.

We see that all 53 Senators signed a letter.

I can&#039;t match up your sentence and the Senators sentences and make it work.

They&#039;ve already said to us &quot;Whatever!&quot;.

How do we get it done in the face of the obstance?

How can we get along ourselves without being told we are for Reid and Pelosi. 

I&#039;ve had problems with Bill Kristol before when he uses language as he uses.... I suppose that is why he is where he is. He has a sharp tongue.

Well Bill - direct your sharp language to the 53 Senators and the people in those states.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard wrote, &#8220;<em>The point is for the House to pass it, and then fro members appear on every news show, newspaper, talking head show, blog, twitter and facebook page and say, “Yes we did!”</em></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you think.</p>
<p>I hear what you are saying.</p>
<p>We see that all 53 Senators signed a letter.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t match up your sentence and the Senators sentences and make it work.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve already said to us &#8220;Whatever!&#8221;.</p>
<p>How do we get it done in the face of the obstance?</p>
<p>How can we get along ourselves without being told we are for Reid and Pelosi. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had problems with Bill Kristol before when he uses language as he uses&#8230;. I suppose that is why he is where he is. He has a sharp tongue.</p>
<p>Well Bill &#8211; direct your sharp language to the 53 Senators and the people in those states.</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/07/27/extremism-in-the-debt-ceiling-battle/#comment-257657</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW,

I made this point earlier. Boehner&#039;s bill won&#039;t pass the Senate either.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/27/all-53-senate-dems-sign-letter-to-boehner-your-bill-will-never-pass/

ALL 53 Senators !!!

Imagine a scenario where you are being told that you are voting for Reid and Pelosi if you don&#039;t pass a certain bill.

Yet - the certain bill won&#039;t make it either.

Bill Kristol, please understand - we need a solution. We ALL get that. But this bill which cuts $1billion this year won&#039;t get it done either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW,</p>
<p>I made this point earlier. Boehner&#8217;s bill won&#8217;t pass the Senate either.</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/27/all-53-senate-dems-sign-letter-to-boehner-your-bill-will-never-pass/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/27/all-53-senate-dems-sign-letter-to-boehner-your-bill-will-never-pass/</a></p>
<p>ALL 53 Senators !!!</p>
<p>Imagine a scenario where you are being told that you are voting for Reid and Pelosi if you don&#8217;t pass a certain bill.</p>
<p>Yet &#8211; the certain bill won&#8217;t make it either.</p>
<p>Bill Kristol, please understand &#8211; we need a solution. We ALL get that. But this bill which cuts $1billion this year won&#8217;t get it done either.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/07/27/extremism-in-the-debt-ceiling-battle/#comment-257656</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In this context and respect, I would never support Boehner. I would simply use him to support my own purposes. Never would I &quot;support&quot; people or causes that I don&#039;t believe in. Their cause is not my cause. Their fight isn&#039;t even on the same hemisphere as my fight. But I&#039;ll make use of them, since they are there and they can be of use. To me, that is.

They want support do they. What they will mostly get is cooperation, a temporary alliance. We&#039;ll cooperate until they cease to be of use, then it&#039;s time to discard them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this context and respect, I would never support Boehner. I would simply use him to support my own purposes. Never would I &#8220;support&#8221; people or causes that I don&#8217;t believe in. Their cause is not my cause. Their fight isn&#8217;t even on the same hemisphere as my fight. But I&#8217;ll make use of them, since they are there and they can be of use. To me, that is.</p>
<p>They want support do they. What they will mostly get is cooperation, a temporary alliance. We&#8217;ll cooperate until they cease to be of use, then it&#8217;s time to discard them.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/07/27/extremism-in-the-debt-ceiling-battle/#comment-257655</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boehner does not inspire confidence. Until he gives me evidence that he has at least as much fire as Sarah Palin in chewing up the Left, in his heart of hearts, Boehner isn&#039;t going to get any confidence vote. Possibility is 99% based upon human intentions and motivations. If Republicans don&#039;t have a spine, and they ask to be trusted to put the nail in the coffin of the Left... I&#039;m not sure that is worth anything in this world.

What kind of worth is that promise anyways? Have they demonstrated their ruthless drive to purge the Democrats and crush them on all fronts? As if. Have they demonstrated the ability to understand Leftist evil and be aware that this is on the same level of the Islamic jihad and is even greater a domestic threat? As if.

So what use are they.

Insurgencies do not grow and revolution is not favored unless the occupation decides or is forced to decide, to face slap and behead a bunch of locals. So long as there is a &quot;possible&quot; solution, people will not take up arms via a majority. So long as there is a slim sham of an excuse for a political process, people won&#039;t take the death defying leap.

And thus slow socialism and Leftist subversion is accomplished. As it has been done for the last 60 years.

People may not remember this because they never studied it in depth, but the Left took control of all these social organizations like feminism and civil rights, solely because they relied upon the reasonable characteristics of the original founders. They got an organization with a reputation for doing good, and then turned it to evil, and nobody figured it out until it was too late. Why is that, do you know. Why is it that the founders of civil rights or feminism couldn&#039;t take back their movement once it was hijacked by the Left? Why do they resign as leaders of such organizations when they realize that 90% of the people working under them owes their loyalties to the Left, and not human rights?

Because they didn&#039;t cut off the head of the snake before it sunk in its fangs.

I&#039;ve seen no evidence that Congressional Republicans can imagine the depth of the Left&#039;s evil and crimes against humanity. What use could they possibly be in this war.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boehner does not inspire confidence. Until he gives me evidence that he has at least as much fire as Sarah Palin in chewing up the Left, in his heart of hearts, Boehner isn&#8217;t going to get any confidence vote. Possibility is 99% based upon human intentions and motivations. If Republicans don&#8217;t have a spine, and they ask to be trusted to put the nail in the coffin of the Left&#8230; I&#8217;m not sure that is worth anything in this world.</p>
<p>What kind of worth is that promise anyways? Have they demonstrated their ruthless drive to purge the Democrats and crush them on all fronts? As if. Have they demonstrated the ability to understand Leftist evil and be aware that this is on the same level of the Islamic jihad and is even greater a domestic threat? As if.</p>
<p>So what use are they.</p>
<p>Insurgencies do not grow and revolution is not favored unless the occupation decides or is forced to decide, to face slap and behead a bunch of locals. So long as there is a &#8220;possible&#8221; solution, people will not take up arms via a majority. So long as there is a slim sham of an excuse for a political process, people won&#8217;t take the death defying leap.</p>
<p>And thus slow socialism and Leftist subversion is accomplished. As it has been done for the last 60 years.</p>
<p>People may not remember this because they never studied it in depth, but the Left took control of all these social organizations like feminism and civil rights, solely because they relied upon the reasonable characteristics of the original founders. They got an organization with a reputation for doing good, and then turned it to evil, and nobody figured it out until it was too late. Why is that, do you know. Why is it that the founders of civil rights or feminism couldn&#8217;t take back their movement once it was hijacked by the Left? Why do they resign as leaders of such organizations when they realize that 90% of the people working under them owes their loyalties to the Left, and not human rights?</p>
<p>Because they didn&#8217;t cut off the head of the snake before it sunk in its fangs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen no evidence that Congressional Republicans can imagine the depth of the Left&#8217;s evil and crimes against humanity. What use could they possibly be in this war.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/07/27/extremism-in-the-debt-ceiling-battle/#comment-257653</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Republicans still don&#039;t get it. Democrats are at war with you, regardless of whether you think the Left and their ALLIANCE is at war with you.

Many Americans didn&#039;t get it either. That&#039;s why they voted Obama and Democrat. But as the Iraq war happened and we saw the Left&#039;s response to it, when we saw JournoList and how the New York Times doesn&#039;t even care to be paid for their propaganda, they&#039;d DISCOUNT their front page ads for Leftist causes. They don&#039;t even need to be paid, if they had their way, to spew out Leftist propaganda... that&#039;s probably why they want government funding, subsidies, and support. 

Republicans are still operating in the American political tradition of you scratch my back, I&#039;ll scratch you. Let&#039;s make a deal, you give me what I want and I&#039;ll give you what you want. What the Left wants is your in a slave collar working in the fields and on your knees in the house. What exactly are we getting in return for that? Food? Luxury? Cradle to grave care? The privilege of bowing to our Leftist masters? What is it that We Got exactly?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans still don&#8217;t get it. Democrats are at war with you, regardless of whether you think the Left and their ALLIANCE is at war with you.</p>
<p>Many Americans didn&#8217;t get it either. That&#8217;s why they voted Obama and Democrat. But as the Iraq war happened and we saw the Left&#8217;s response to it, when we saw JournoList and how the New York Times doesn&#8217;t even care to be paid for their propaganda, they&#8217;d DISCOUNT their front page ads for Leftist causes. They don&#8217;t even need to be paid, if they had their way, to spew out Leftist propaganda&#8230; that&#8217;s probably why they want government funding, subsidies, and support. </p>
<p>Republicans are still operating in the American political tradition of you scratch my back, I&#8217;ll scratch you. Let&#8217;s make a deal, you give me what I want and I&#8217;ll give you what you want. What the Left wants is your in a slave collar working in the fields and on your knees in the house. What exactly are we getting in return for that? Food? Luxury? Cradle to grave care? The privilege of bowing to our Leftist masters? What is it that We Got exactly?</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[kaba is correct.  Giving up or giving one dollar in return for democrat promises is stoo pid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kaba is correct.  Giving up or giving one dollar in return for democrat promises is stoo pid.</p>
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