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	Comments on: Robert Reich wonders whether Obama can pull a Bill Clinton before the election of 2012&#8230;	</title>
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		By: stu		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[As Yogi Berra said, this is deja vu all over again.  When Obama  won in 2008, I was convinced that Jimmy Carter was getting his second term.  Unfortunately I was right.  We need as a candidate someone with the vision and optimism of a Reagan.  Romney may or may not be up to the job.  His biography as a successful businessman should help.  In addition to pointing out government has been the problem, he needs to show that the path to prosperity for all is thru smaller government, less regulation and unleashing the natural entrepreneurial energy of our citizenry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Yogi Berra said, this is deja vu all over again.  When Obama  won in 2008, I was convinced that Jimmy Carter was getting his second term.  Unfortunately I was right.  We need as a candidate someone with the vision and optimism of a Reagan.  Romney may or may not be up to the job.  His biography as a successful businessman should help.  In addition to pointing out government has been the problem, he needs to show that the path to prosperity for all is thru smaller government, less regulation and unleashing the natural entrepreneurial energy of our citizenry.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[rickl,

I haven&#039;t seen that before.  Thanks.That&#039;s something else that should get wholesale distribution at least by right-leaning media.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rickl,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen that before.  Thanks.That&#8217;s something else that should get wholesale distribution at least by right-leaning media.</p>
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		By: JHB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Democrats hurt themselves by quickly and confidently passing the &quot;stimulus&quot; and then placing all of their eggs in the healthcare basket. 

If the progressives knew their economic bill was not enough, then they were negligent. While if their program was inherently defective, then the progressives have a defective philosophy. I get the sense that people really really want to give Obama a chance to succeed, but don&#039;t like the way things are going and may bail on him at the last minute, like Carter in 1980.

Running on their record will be a tough sell for the progressives, though as Bush proved in 2004, Obama doesn&#039;t need to be the best, just the best of the worst. The Republicans need to run on offering a vision of a better economic future; they&#039;re not going to win a personality content with Obama. I&#039;m convinced that &quot;Generic Republican&quot; can defeat him. Our problem is that &quot;Weird Republican&quot; will not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democrats hurt themselves by quickly and confidently passing the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; and then placing all of their eggs in the healthcare basket. </p>
<p>If the progressives knew their economic bill was not enough, then they were negligent. While if their program was inherently defective, then the progressives have a defective philosophy. I get the sense that people really really want to give Obama a chance to succeed, but don&#8217;t like the way things are going and may bail on him at the last minute, like Carter in 1980.</p>
<p>Running on their record will be a tough sell for the progressives, though as Bush proved in 2004, Obama doesn&#8217;t need to be the best, just the best of the worst. The Republicans need to run on offering a vision of a better economic future; they&#8217;re not going to win a personality content with Obama. I&#8217;m convinced that &#8220;Generic Republican&#8221; can defeat him. Our problem is that &#8220;Weird Republican&#8221; will not.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T:
I&#039;ve probably linked this chart before, but here it is again.  It was from the Wall Street Journal a couple months ago.  It shows exactly who the Marxists mean when they say &quot;tax the rich&quot;:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k247/rickl_2006/Web/middleclasstaxtarget.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Middle Class Tax Target&lt;/a&gt;

Obama&#039;s voter base is towards the left end of the chart, and they&#039;re looking &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; way.

In Venezuela, Hugo Chavez waged war on the middle class, and he is loved by the poor and uneducated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T:<br />
I&#8217;ve probably linked this chart before, but here it is again.  It was from the Wall Street Journal a couple months ago.  It shows exactly who the Marxists mean when they say &#8220;tax the rich&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k247/rickl_2006/Web/middleclasstaxtarget.jpg" rel="nofollow">The Middle Class Tax Target</a></p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s voter base is towards the left end of the chart, and they&#8217;re looking <i>our</i> way.</p>
<p>In Venezuela, Hugo Chavez waged war on the middle class, and he is loved by the poor and uneducated.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SteveH,

Reality bats last . . . .

Should be carved in stone on every public monument.

Superb!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveH,</p>
<p>Reality bats last . . . .</p>
<p>Should be carved in stone on every public monument.</p>
<p>Superb!</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OB (@1:36 above),

You have exposed THE liberal paradigm.  If success is due to chance and luck rather than skill, work and perserverance, then the concept of wealth redistribution makes some sort of warped sense.

Neoneocon,

Regarding the length of the public&#039;s memory, don&#039;t forget that everytime Obama makes a pronouncement on which he fails to follow through, he reminds everyone of each past pronouncement on which he&#039;s failed to follow through.

Kolnai, et. al above,

Regarding Obama&#039;s apparent strength in the polls: the other night Dick Morris pointed out that the undecided pollsters by-and-large swing to the challenger.  So that if you take the undecideds and add them to the polling of the challenger then Obama is actually underwater.  I&#039;m not a pollster so I don&#039;t actually know how accurate that is, but I would like to think Morris&#039; experience counts for something.

Random thoughts,

You are correct.  The class warfare mantra has always hinged on encouraging the individual to look up the socio-economic ladder and resent anyone above their own rung.  &quot;Tax the Rich&quot; becomes redistribute the wealth of anyone above you on the ladder, but the dirty little secret is that those below you on the ladder are looking up at you and agitating for the same thing.

That&#039;s why I&#039;m a conservative, I do not resent someone who has (or has achieved) more than I, nor do I pity someone just because they have less.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OB (@1:36 above),</p>
<p>You have exposed THE liberal paradigm.  If success is due to chance and luck rather than skill, work and perserverance, then the concept of wealth redistribution makes some sort of warped sense.</p>
<p>Neoneocon,</p>
<p>Regarding the length of the public&#8217;s memory, don&#8217;t forget that everytime Obama makes a pronouncement on which he fails to follow through, he reminds everyone of each past pronouncement on which he&#8217;s failed to follow through.</p>
<p>Kolnai, et. al above,</p>
<p>Regarding Obama&#8217;s apparent strength in the polls: the other night Dick Morris pointed out that the undecided pollsters by-and-large swing to the challenger.  So that if you take the undecideds and add them to the polling of the challenger then Obama is actually underwater.  I&#8217;m not a pollster so I don&#8217;t actually know how accurate that is, but I would like to think Morris&#8217; experience counts for something.</p>
<p>Random thoughts,</p>
<p>You are correct.  The class warfare mantra has always hinged on encouraging the individual to look up the socio-economic ladder and resent anyone above their own rung.  &#8220;Tax the Rich&#8221; becomes redistribute the wealth of anyone above you on the ladder, but the dirty little secret is that those below you on the ladder are looking up at you and agitating for the same thing.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m a conservative, I do not resent someone who has (or has achieved) more than I, nor do I pity someone just because they have less.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;Who, after all, elected the guy after the J. Wright tapes hit Youtube, and every other glaringly horrible fact about him was made known.&quot;&quot;
Beverly

 We humans are always in the becoming phase. And right now young people are getting an education on shysters and con men politicians. In many ways we had to get where we are now. Otherwise there&#039;d only be the liberal narrative. But reality bats last and she&#039;s up to the plate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Who, after all, elected the guy after the J. Wright tapes hit Youtube, and every other glaringly horrible fact about him was made known.&#8221;&#8221;<br />
Beverly</p>
<p> We humans are always in the becoming phase. And right now young people are getting an education on shysters and con men politicians. In many ways we had to get where we are now. Otherwise there&#8217;d only be the liberal narrative. But reality bats last and she&#8217;s up to the plate.</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;People who have not worked in education (high school or college) have no idea how ignorant and unaware the average voter under forty is.&quot; 

Can you have an Achilles &lt;i&gt;leg&lt;/i&gt;? I&#039;ve been watching this debacle with rising dread, and I&#039;m afraid Kolnai and Mr. Frank are right. The only reason this creature is polling a steady 50% or so in favor of his &quot;policies&quot; is that the MSM&#039;s slavish support of his message is having the desired effect on the doltish demos. Who, after all, elected the guy after the J. Wright tapes hit Youtube, and every other glaringly horrible fact about him was made known.

We are so screwed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People who have not worked in education (high school or college) have no idea how ignorant and unaware the average voter under forty is.&#8221; </p>
<p>Can you have an Achilles <i>leg</i>? I&#8217;ve been watching this debacle with rising dread, and I&#8217;m afraid Kolnai and Mr. Frank are right. The only reason this creature is polling a steady 50% or so in favor of his &#8220;policies&#8221; is that the MSM&#8217;s slavish support of his message is having the desired effect on the doltish demos. Who, after all, elected the guy after the J. Wright tapes hit Youtube, and every other glaringly horrible fact about him was made known.</p>
<p>We are so screwed.</p>
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		By: RandomThoughts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 06:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do not underestimate the power of the &quot;tax the rich&quot; mantra upon the unwitting public. Especially upon the younger voters. Tonight at dinner Mr. Random Thoughts and I were discussing the likelihood of the Republicans caving and giving Obama what he wants vis a vis the debt ceiling. 

Our college educated, socially conservative and reasonably intelligent daughter doesn&#039;t follow politics, but she listens when we discuss the topic. She asked what exactly Obama wanted. I answered, &quot;Increased taxes.&quot; Daughter then asked, &quot;They&#039;re just going to tax the rich though, right?&quot;

My response was something along the lines of, &quot;Yes, sweetheart, and that means you and me and everyone else who actually has a reasonable income. WE are the &#039;rich&#039; as far as Obama is concerned.&quot;

Obviously she&#039;s heard the phrase &quot;tax the rich&quot; so often it&#039;s stuck in her mind, along with the lie pushed by the Democrats: The &quot;rich&quot; are someone else, not you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not underestimate the power of the &#8220;tax the rich&#8221; mantra upon the unwitting public. Especially upon the younger voters. Tonight at dinner Mr. Random Thoughts and I were discussing the likelihood of the Republicans caving and giving Obama what he wants vis a vis the debt ceiling. </p>
<p>Our college educated, socially conservative and reasonably intelligent daughter doesn&#8217;t follow politics, but she listens when we discuss the topic. She asked what exactly Obama wanted. I answered, &#8220;Increased taxes.&#8221; Daughter then asked, &#8220;They&#8217;re just going to tax the rich though, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>My response was something along the lines of, &#8220;Yes, sweetheart, and that means you and me and everyone else who actually has a reasonable income. WE are the &#8216;rich&#8217; as far as Obama is concerned.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obviously she&#8217;s heard the phrase &#8220;tax the rich&#8221; so often it&#8217;s stuck in her mind, along with the lie pushed by the Democrats: The &#8220;rich&#8221; are someone else, not you.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 02:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Life is uphill, M J R!

Super good article on Obama at the following link which destroys the &quot;poor but brilliant man succeeds by hard work&quot; narrative. 

I raised an earlier objection to the whole idea that if Obama can succeed at fixing jobs or the economy he will gain re-election. It&#039;s not Obama&#039;s job and unfortunately we don&#039;t seem to be returning to that very simple idea. Nor is it the job of government anywhere. 

http://tinyurl.com/65rcgat]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is uphill, M J R!</p>
<p>Super good article on Obama at the following link which destroys the &#8220;poor but brilliant man succeeds by hard work&#8221; narrative. </p>
<p>I raised an earlier objection to the whole idea that if Obama can succeed at fixing jobs or the economy he will gain re-election. It&#8217;s not Obama&#8217;s job and unfortunately we don&#8217;t seem to be returning to that very simple idea. Nor is it the job of government anywhere. </p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/65rcgat" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/65rcgat</a></p>
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