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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Grey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama has a GREAT  SOUNDING voice -- it sounds like a Hollywood generation thinks a president should sound like.
as above: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Obama has a sonorous voice which he uses to mouth platitudes, half-truths, prevarications, and mealy-mouthed b.s., the sum of which passes for oratory these days. &lt;/i&gt;

It passes for oratory because it sounds good.

Reps should all continue talking about how good the sound quality of his voice is, but how terrible his policies are; and how often he has been dishonest/ wrong about what his great sounding voice says.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has a GREAT  SOUNDING voice &#8212; it sounds like a Hollywood generation thinks a president should sound like.<br />
as above: <i>&#8220;Obama has a sonorous voice which he uses to mouth platitudes, half-truths, prevarications, and mealy-mouthed b.s., the sum of which passes for oratory these days. </i></p>
<p>It passes for oratory because it sounds good.</p>
<p>Reps should all continue talking about how good the sound quality of his voice is, but how terrible his policies are; and how often he has been dishonest/ wrong about what his great sounding voice says.</p>
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		By: uncleFred		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[uncleFred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 13:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parker hits the nail on the head:
&quot;Millions swooned for BHO because they were told by the MSM that he was a transcendent messiah who would heal the wounds of partisanship, stop the rising of the seas, and so forth&quot;

While some in the media were themselves caught up in the cult, we now have proof that the effort to sell Obama was mutually coordinated by people in the media intending to deceive the electorate. A large chunk of the people who bought that message are no longer deceived and have lost any trust in the MSM.

Obama&#039;s oratory has not changed, his audience has caught on and look behind the words to see the truth for themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parker hits the nail on the head:<br />
&#8220;Millions swooned for BHO because they were told by the MSM that he was a transcendent messiah who would heal the wounds of partisanship, stop the rising of the seas, and so forth&#8221;</p>
<p>While some in the media were themselves caught up in the cult, we now have proof that the effort to sell Obama was mutually coordinated by people in the media intending to deceive the electorate. A large chunk of the people who bought that message are no longer deceived and have lost any trust in the MSM.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s oratory has not changed, his audience has caught on and look behind the words to see the truth for themselves.</p>
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		By: waltj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[waltj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I&#039;ve said before, Obama has a sonorous voice which he uses to mouth platitudes, half-truths, prevarications, and mealy-mouthed b.s., the sum of which passes for oratory these days.  Listen to a Churchill speech (and read the transcript) if you want to know what the gold standard is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve said before, Obama has a sonorous voice which he uses to mouth platitudes, half-truths, prevarications, and mealy-mouthed b.s., the sum of which passes for oratory these days.  Listen to a Churchill speech (and read the transcript) if you want to know what the gold standard is.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Update on Chavez: in &#039;critical condition&#039; in the Cuban healthcare paradise. One can but hope.

There is some Venezuelan chatter that he may have prostate cancer, but that doesn&#039;t cause a pelvic abcess. A colonic perforation would. Who knows? At least he&#039;s &#039;critical&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update on Chavez: in &#8216;critical condition&#8217; in the Cuban healthcare paradise. One can but hope.</p>
<p>There is some Venezuelan chatter that he may have prostate cancer, but that doesn&#8217;t cause a pelvic abcess. A colonic perforation would. Who knows? At least he&#8217;s &#8216;critical&#8217;.</p>
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		By: michaele		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[michaele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back in early &#039;08, I wrote in the Althouse comments&#039; section:

&quot;We used to breed horses and there was always such excitement and optimism about the possibilities of the foal. So, when I see all the enthusiam that Obama generates simply by being, I jokingly refer to him as &quot;the foal&quot;. He&#039;s a repository for hopes and dreams and isn&#039;t so far along that you have to admit this creation isn&#039;t going to pan out like you&#039;d hoped.&quot;

Well, the foal has matured enough so that, hopefully in Nov. 2012, enough people will realize he&#039;s not a mount worth keeping.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in early &#8217;08, I wrote in the Althouse comments&#8217; section:</p>
<p>&#8220;We used to breed horses and there was always such excitement and optimism about the possibilities of the foal. So, when I see all the enthusiam that Obama generates simply by being, I jokingly refer to him as &#8220;the foal&#8221;. He&#8217;s a repository for hopes and dreams and isn&#8217;t so far along that you have to admit this creation isn&#8217;t going to pan out like you&#8217;d hoped.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the foal has matured enough so that, hopefully in Nov. 2012, enough people will realize he&#8217;s not a mount worth keeping.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SteveH:
&lt;blockquote&gt;7. If you think yourself educated but can’t change a tire. &lt;blockquote&gt;

If you think yourself educated, but cannot write a coherent paragraph, cannot  solve a 9th grade algebra problems, if  you  know about Harriet Tubman than you do about George Washington, or if you think it was a shame that ~150,000 Japanese were killed at Hiroshima or Nagasaki but were not aware that the Japanese had   killed ~10-20 million Chinese civilians, nor can you change a tire. 

My recollection of the &quot;cannot change a tire&quot; line is that when I was in junior high, a time when it was not popular for a male to be an academic high achiever, was that some of the nonacademic types would say to me, &quot;But can you change a tire?&quot;  I could, but damned if I was going to tell them that I could.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveH:</p>
<blockquote><p>7. If you think yourself educated but can’t change a tire. </p>
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<p>If you think yourself educated, but cannot write a coherent paragraph, cannot  solve a 9th grade algebra problems, if  you  know about Harriet Tubman than you do about George Washington, or if you think it was a shame that ~150,000 Japanese were killed at Hiroshima or Nagasaki but were not aware that the Japanese had   killed ~10-20 million Chinese civilians, nor can you change a tire. </p>
<p>My recollection of the &#8220;cannot change a tire&#8221; line is that when I was in junior high, a time when it was not popular for a male to be an academic high achiever, was that some of the nonacademic types would say to me, &#8220;But can you change a tire?&#8221;  I could, but damned if I was going to tell them that I could.</p></blockquote>
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		By: MissJean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MissJean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great orator? Ha! The problem is that not enough liberal white folks have ever heard on-fire-with-the-Spirit  black Christian preacher, or they&#039;d have recognized the what Barack was ATTEMPTING.  He is a man of little significance or ability, raised to a position far over his paygrade. Incidentally, one of my mentors had Mr. Obama&#039;s number just a few months after his election; she dubbed him &quot;the Trifling President&quot; (as a play on &quot;Teflon President&quot;). Trifling he is.  

As for the young voters, I think they haven&#039;t been indoctrinated by their schooling but by their families.  All the volunteers for his campaign that I met in my area were generally from well-off or well-subsidized families who could afford to take an unpaid job without endangering their bank accounts or their welfare status. (BTW I have always found it telling that the wealthy liberals I&#039;ve met are asset-wealthy, which means they don&#039;t mind tax increases on income, as they or their ancestors paid taxes on the principal long ago. )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great orator? Ha! The problem is that not enough liberal white folks have ever heard on-fire-with-the-Spirit  black Christian preacher, or they&#8217;d have recognized the what Barack was ATTEMPTING.  He is a man of little significance or ability, raised to a position far over his paygrade. Incidentally, one of my mentors had Mr. Obama&#8217;s number just a few months after his election; she dubbed him &#8220;the Trifling President&#8221; (as a play on &#8220;Teflon President&#8221;). Trifling he is.  </p>
<p>As for the young voters, I think they haven&#8217;t been indoctrinated by their schooling but by their families.  All the volunteers for his campaign that I met in my area were generally from well-off or well-subsidized families who could afford to take an unpaid job without endangering their bank accounts or their welfare status. (BTW I have always found it telling that the wealthy liberals I&#8217;ve met are asset-wealthy, which means they don&#8217;t mind tax increases on income, as they or their ancestors paid taxes on the principal long ago. )</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr--I doubt that way over his &quot;level of competence&quot; Obama could even manage to do a half way decent job of reading most of those speeches.  

The guy is a very shrewd, very badly educated but slick talking con artist who played the system for all it was worth--having played it so often, I&#039;m surprised his racism card hasn&#039;t had all the symbols worn off it by now--and picked up Ivy League degrees that he was very obviously not entitled to, nor--it seems--worked all that hard for.  

Thus, the lack of more than a handful of fellow students from college, grad, and law schools combined who even remember him, much less have come forward to reminisce at great length and detail about their days together of hard study in Academe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr&#8211;I doubt that way over his &#8220;level of competence&#8221; Obama could even manage to do a half way decent job of reading most of those speeches.  </p>
<p>The guy is a very shrewd, very badly educated but slick talking con artist who played the system for all it was worth&#8211;having played it so often, I&#8217;m surprised his racism card hasn&#8217;t had all the symbols worn off it by now&#8211;and picked up Ivy League degrees that he was very obviously not entitled to, nor&#8211;it seems&#8211;worked all that hard for.  </p>
<p>Thus, the lack of more than a handful of fellow students from college, grad, and law schools combined who even remember him, much less have come forward to reminisce at great length and detail about their days together of hard study in Academe.</p>
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		By: mousebert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mousebert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr Said:&quot;In Genesis 22, God asks Abraham to sacrifice his only son, Isaac.&quot;

Only son? What about Ishmael? According to the Koran Abraham took his son, and that is interpreted to be Ishmael. Ishmael was older but Isaac was the son of Sarah, the primary wife. So Isaac, by some, is considered the eldest legal son for inheritance. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr Said:&#8221;In Genesis 22, God asks Abraham to sacrifice his only son, Isaac.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only son? What about Ishmael? According to the Koran Abraham took his son, and that is interpreted to be Ishmael. Ishmael was older but Isaac was the son of Sarah, the primary wife. So Isaac, by some, is considered the eldest legal son for inheritance. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael</a></p>
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		By: RPL		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RPL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kurt, that&#039;s the one. Rickl, Kurt has provided the link. Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt, that&#8217;s the one. Rickl, Kurt has provided the link. Thank you!</p>
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