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		By: gs		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/06/16/freedom-is-it-any-surprise/#comment-252107</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s surprising, given how things are going with the country, that more people aren&#039;t amok. Father&#039;s Day makes Marc&#039;s post especially poignant. 

Thomas Ball remained self-possessed enough to turn his rage on himself and not against others. RIP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s surprising, given how things are going with the country, that more people aren&#8217;t amok. Father&#8217;s Day makes Marc&#8217;s post especially poignant. </p>
<p>Thomas Ball remained self-possessed enough to turn his rage on himself and not against others. RIP.</p>
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		By: Yackums		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/06/16/freedom-is-it-any-surprise/#comment-251898</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ted Nugent is an Indiana State Senator?

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted Nugent is an Indiana State Senator?</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: Marc		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/06/16/freedom-is-it-any-surprise/#comment-251792</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently one New Hampshire man took the &quot;live free or die&quot; slogan literally:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedailyholden.com/Articles-c-2011-06-17-78443.113122-Holden-man-sets-himself-ablaze-in-front-of-New-Hampshire-Courthouse.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently one New Hampshire man took the &#8220;live free or die&#8221; slogan literally:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedailyholden.com/Articles-c-2011-06-17-78443.113122-Holden-man-sets-himself-ablaze-in-front-of-New-Hampshire-Courthouse.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
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		By: ridgerunner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indiana&#039;s secret is the same as New Hampshire&#039;s: a substantial proportion its population being of Scots-Irish descent.  One of the reasons the Confederacy did not succeed in winning independence was that the tough-as-nails Scots-Irish were fighting on both sides. New Hampshire&#039;s Ulstermen immigrated directly there in the early 18th century.  Pennsylvania&#039;s moved from just west of Philadelphia to the mountainous regions of western PA.  Southern Indiana&#039;s Scots-Irish arrived there from Virginia, Kentucky and North Carolina.  Folks in this ethnic group really don&#039;t accept being told what to do with good grace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indiana&#8217;s secret is the same as New Hampshire&#8217;s: a substantial proportion its population being of Scots-Irish descent.  One of the reasons the Confederacy did not succeed in winning independence was that the tough-as-nails Scots-Irish were fighting on both sides. New Hampshire&#8217;s Ulstermen immigrated directly there in the early 18th century.  Pennsylvania&#8217;s moved from just west of Philadelphia to the mountainous regions of western PA.  Southern Indiana&#8217;s Scots-Irish arrived there from Virginia, Kentucky and North Carolina.  Folks in this ethnic group really don&#8217;t accept being told what to do with good grace.</p>
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		By: gs		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;john Says: It’s not *all* chirping in the Indiana legislature, here’s my state senator at work:&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks for the link. Good luck to your Senator Nugent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>john Says: It’s not *all* chirping in the Indiana legislature, here’s my state senator at work:</i></p>
<p>Thanks for the link. Good luck to your Senator Nugent.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ninjafetus Says:
June 17th, 2011 at 8:16 am

What’s sad is listening to all the lefties moan about this study, asking why factors like “the freedom to change employers without the fear of losing your healthcare coverage”...

Is it that hard to understand the difference between freedom from coercion and freedom from consequences? Or is their worldview so twisted that words are turned upside down and lose their meaning? (hint: those were rhetorical questions)&quot;



I was about to respond with a comment about John Dewey and his marxian style redefinition of freedom, until I read your last line and saw you were already there.

It is of course &quot;people like you&quot; with your retrogressive and emotionally immature attachment to guns, God, and that blasted charter of negative (-ly formulated) liberties, that are the real problem.

Get with the program. There is nothing to protect against unwelcome change. The self is an illusion, merely matter in motion; and, real freedom is the freedom to fulfill your social obligations and exercise your potentials as a responsible element of a properly directed collective.

Where will it all lead you ask, and for what end? 

Don&#039;t worry. Answering those questions isn&#039;t your responsibility. There are those with expertise and credentials who are better suited to that. They work in government supported institutions and are paid good money for their trouble.

Happiness is for you, in knowing your place.

So, what&#039;s on American Idol tonight?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ninjafetus Says:<br />
June 17th, 2011 at 8:16 am</p>
<p>What’s sad is listening to all the lefties moan about this study, asking why factors like “the freedom to change employers without the fear of losing your healthcare coverage”&#8230;</p>
<p>Is it that hard to understand the difference between freedom from coercion and freedom from consequences? Or is their worldview so twisted that words are turned upside down and lose their meaning? (hint: those were rhetorical questions)&#8221;</p>
<p>I was about to respond with a comment about John Dewey and his marxian style redefinition of freedom, until I read your last line and saw you were already there.</p>
<p>It is of course &#8220;people like you&#8221; with your retrogressive and emotionally immature attachment to guns, God, and that blasted charter of negative (-ly formulated) liberties, that are the real problem.</p>
<p>Get with the program. There is nothing to protect against unwelcome change. The self is an illusion, merely matter in motion; and, real freedom is the freedom to fulfill your social obligations and exercise your potentials as a responsible element of a properly directed collective.</p>
<p>Where will it all lead you ask, and for what end? </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry. Answering those questions isn&#8217;t your responsibility. There are those with expertise and credentials who are better suited to that. They work in government supported institutions and are paid good money for their trouble.</p>
<p>Happiness is for you, in knowing your place.</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s on American Idol tonight?</p>
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		By: Libby		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Drug dealers, illegal immigrants, welfare bums, and those partaking in Planned Parenthood services find California pretty darned free.&quot;

You&#039;re right, freedom in California depends on who you are. 

Victor Davis Hanson has been blogging about the two California&#039;s: the regular folk who are being taxed and regulated to death, and then the recent immigrants who have been allowed to set up their third world lifestyle right here in the US. Dumping trash wherever they please, selling items on the street corner (w/no sales tax, no vendor&#039;s license), eateries on wheels (without health inspection oversight), cobbled together shacks (no zoning approval, building code followed), etc. Utterly depressing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Drug dealers, illegal immigrants, welfare bums, and those partaking in Planned Parenthood services find California pretty darned free.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, freedom in California depends on who you are. </p>
<p>Victor Davis Hanson has been blogging about the two California&#8217;s: the regular folk who are being taxed and regulated to death, and then the recent immigrants who have been allowed to set up their third world lifestyle right here in the US. Dumping trash wherever they please, selling items on the street corner (w/no sales tax, no vendor&#8217;s license), eateries on wheels (without health inspection oversight), cobbled together shacks (no zoning approval, building code followed), etc. Utterly depressing.</p>
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		By: CZ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Indiana resident here.

We&#039;re free because we keep all the moonbats locked up in a small northwest corner of the state.

We&#039;re free because we keep all the union thugs locked up in a small northwest corner of the state.

We&#039;re free because we keep all the druggies and gangbangers locked up in a small northwest corner of the state.

We&#039;re free because I am licensed to carry a concealed loaded weapon whenever I need to visit that small northwest corner of the state.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indiana resident here.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re free because we keep all the moonbats locked up in a small northwest corner of the state.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re free because we keep all the union thugs locked up in a small northwest corner of the state.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re free because we keep all the druggies and gangbangers locked up in a small northwest corner of the state.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re free because I am licensed to carry a concealed loaded weapon whenever I need to visit that small northwest corner of the state.</p>
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		By: ninjafetus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ninjafetus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 12:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s sad is listening to all the lefties moan about this study, asking why factors like &quot;the freedom to change employers without the fear of losing your healthcare coverage&quot; aren&#039;t included, and doing it with a straight face. (http://salon.com/a/sKzofAA)

Is it that hard to understand the difference between freedom from coercion and freedom from consequences?  Or is their worldview so twisted that words are turned upside down and lose their meaning?  (hint: those were rhetorical questions)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s sad is listening to all the lefties moan about this study, asking why factors like &#8220;the freedom to change employers without the fear of losing your healthcare coverage&#8221; aren&#8217;t included, and doing it with a straight face. (<a href="http://salon.com/a/sKzofAA" rel="nofollow ugc">http://salon.com/a/sKzofAA</a>)</p>
<p>Is it that hard to understand the difference between freedom from coercion and freedom from consequences?  Or is their worldview so twisted that words are turned upside down and lose their meaning?  (hint: those were rhetorical questions)</p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cappy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 11:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Live Free or Die may be a loaded slogan.  My slacker useless former brother in law had that in mind while he mooched off my dad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Live Free or Die may be a loaded slogan.  My slacker useless former brother in law had that in mind while he mooched off my dad.</p>
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