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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/05/04/international-law-and-bin-ladens-death/#comment-244422</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 14:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the advantage to self appointed judges, is that they are not litigants... period...  /  second advantage is that they decide, not the litigants...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the advantage to self appointed judges, is that they are not litigants&#8230; period&#8230;  /  second advantage is that they decide, not the litigants&#8230;</p>
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		By: slarrow		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/05/04/international-law-and-bin-ladens-death/#comment-244365</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 03:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The old &quot;he needed killing&quot; defense doesn&#039;t seem quite so mockable these days, does it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old &#8220;he needed killing&#8221; defense doesn&#8217;t seem quite so mockable these days, does it?</p>
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		By: bon homme richard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/05/04/international-law-and-bin-ladens-death/#comment-244342</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 00:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, the Germans!  Puleeeze, give me a break!  

There&#039;s nothing more bullshitty than a German intellectual giving the US instructions on how it should act.  When their interests are involved, the modern-day Germans as just as ruthless as their fathers and grandfathers.  Remember GSG-9 in Somalia?  Remember how all the Red Brigaders in German prisons all were suicided on the same day?

Germans!  Hah!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, the Germans!  Puleeeze, give me a break!  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing more bullshitty than a German intellectual giving the US instructions on how it should act.  When their interests are involved, the modern-day Germans as just as ruthless as their fathers and grandfathers.  Remember GSG-9 in Somalia?  Remember how all the Red Brigaders in German prisons all were suicided on the same day?</p>
<p>Germans!  Hah!</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/05/04/international-law-and-bin-ladens-death/#comment-244126</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 17:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Obama tried to capture OBL and had plans to give him protection, it is likely word would have filtered down to the SEAL teams involved and the whole of SOCOM would have had to do some serious thinking and planning. And many might not have wished to go along with the plan, hence the technical difficulties.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama tried to capture OBL and had plans to give him protection, it is likely word would have filtered down to the SEAL teams involved and the whole of SOCOM would have had to do some serious thinking and planning. And many might not have wished to go along with the plan, hence the technical difficulties.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/05/04/international-law-and-bin-ladens-death/#comment-244092</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 16:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[we are now finding out WHY they didnt get him earlier.. 

pretty much all the reasons that someone like me would be called names for putting forth.. 

the minute i heard it... i KNEW it is going to be a clusterfck...  
a nuclear brain fart...  
a humongous S.N.A.F.U.

but not in ability, but in strategy and tactics in the big picture... 

if you can see the big picture, your either not socialist, or your a socialist inner circle leader using people... 

the rest are &quot;tools&quot;

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Pakistanis burn U.S. flags; backlash over death grows...

UPDATE: Only 1 killed in raid was armed...

Pakistan officials: No resistance in &#039;cold-blooded&#039; U.S. raid...

Warns America not to stage any more...

Says US military personnel in country must be cut...

Shrine Forming As Tourists Flock To Death Compound...

Muslims already name dump location &#039;Martyr&#039;s Sea&#039;...

Skepticism over official account of raid...

UPDATE: Photo proving bin Laden&#039;s death to Sen. Brown was faked...

Possibly three senators fell for fakes... 

&lt;/blockquote&gt;


wait... wait... 

we also lost new stealth tech.. 
why didnt they get a CH-53 Sea Stallion, or a CH-53E Super Stallion to go in, and airlift all the stuff? 

they had situational control... only one man was armed... so why leave top secret samples for your &#039;friends&#039; in global socialism? 

for a man who calls himself a christian, he sure dont understand the power of making martyrs.. 

and for a man whose code name is renegade, from renegado, apostate from christianity to islam, he may understand the power of martyrdom...

and so... protected in ambiguousness.. 
the reason for the bow to saudi now is clear... 

you bow to who you SERVE... 

[just as the inane idea of feminists claiming women serve men (and that it wasnt the other way around)...  that in their world, slave holders of the south would have to stand when a slave entered the room. have to remove ones hat in the presence of a slave. have to hold the door open for the slaves... have to speak clean and politely in mixed company. and to die defending the slave from harm if need be.
sounds right and correct, no?  kind of inverted, eh?] 

the WAY it was handled made it so ambigious that every wild idea is on the table.   in fact, there is no reason to think that he is dead at all... it may be that they reached a deal, and like a witness protection program, faked the death, disappearance of the body., etc.. 

perhaps he has moved to Astoria queens,where two of his friends who flew planes into buildings operated from, and perhaps he now goes to the same mosque

if Stalin&#039;s daughter can be a Wisconsin cheese head.. 

anything is possible. 
[including him locked away in a prison cell forever, and no one knowing. that too is a page out of the soviet play book]

regardless of which... 
obama played out stalins maxim... 

no man, no problem...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are now finding out WHY they didnt get him earlier.. </p>
<p>pretty much all the reasons that someone like me would be called names for putting forth.. </p>
<p>the minute i heard it&#8230; i KNEW it is going to be a clusterfck&#8230;<br />
a nuclear brain fart&#8230;<br />
a humongous S.N.A.F.U.</p>
<p>but not in ability, but in strategy and tactics in the big picture&#8230; </p>
<p>if you can see the big picture, your either not socialist, or your a socialist inner circle leader using people&#8230; </p>
<p>the rest are &#8220;tools&#8221;</p>
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Pakistanis burn U.S. flags; backlash over death grows&#8230;</p>
<p>UPDATE: Only 1 killed in raid was armed&#8230;</p>
<p>Pakistan officials: No resistance in &#8216;cold-blooded&#8217; U.S. raid&#8230;</p>
<p>Warns America not to stage any more&#8230;</p>
<p>Says US military personnel in country must be cut&#8230;</p>
<p>Shrine Forming As Tourists Flock To Death Compound&#8230;</p>
<p>Muslims already name dump location &#8216;Martyr&#8217;s Sea&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>Skepticism over official account of raid&#8230;</p>
<p>UPDATE: Photo proving bin Laden&#8217;s death to Sen. Brown was faked&#8230;</p>
<p>Possibly three senators fell for fakes&#8230; </p>
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<p>wait&#8230; wait&#8230; </p>
<p>we also lost new stealth tech..<br />
why didnt they get a CH-53 Sea Stallion, or a CH-53E Super Stallion to go in, and airlift all the stuff? </p>
<p>they had situational control&#8230; only one man was armed&#8230; so why leave top secret samples for your &#8216;friends&#8217; in global socialism? </p>
<p>for a man who calls himself a christian, he sure dont understand the power of making martyrs.. </p>
<p>and for a man whose code name is renegade, from renegado, apostate from christianity to islam, he may understand the power of martyrdom&#8230;</p>
<p>and so&#8230; protected in ambiguousness..<br />
the reason for the bow to saudi now is clear&#8230; </p>
<p>you bow to who you SERVE&#8230; </p>
<p>[just as the inane idea of feminists claiming women serve men (and that it wasnt the other way around)&#8230;  that in their world, slave holders of the south would have to stand when a slave entered the room. have to remove ones hat in the presence of a slave. have to hold the door open for the slaves&#8230; have to speak clean and politely in mixed company. and to die defending the slave from harm if need be.<br />
sounds right and correct, no?  kind of inverted, eh?] </p>
<p>the WAY it was handled made it so ambigious that every wild idea is on the table.   in fact, there is no reason to think that he is dead at all&#8230; it may be that they reached a deal, and like a witness protection program, faked the death, disappearance of the body., etc.. </p>
<p>perhaps he has moved to Astoria queens,where two of his friends who flew planes into buildings operated from, and perhaps he now goes to the same mosque</p>
<p>if Stalin&#8217;s daughter can be a Wisconsin cheese head.. </p>
<p>anything is possible.<br />
[including him locked away in a prison cell forever, and no one knowing. that too is a page out of the soviet play book]</p>
<p>regardless of which&#8230;<br />
obama played out stalins maxim&#8230; </p>
<p>no man, no problem&#8230;</p>
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		By: Good Ole Charlie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/05/04/international-law-and-bin-ladens-death/#comment-244085</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 16:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OB:  In a play by Gunther Grass about Brecht and the 1953 Berlin riots &quot;The Plebeians Rehearse the Uprising&quot;, Brecht gives private support to the rioters by making sarcastic remarks about the regime and its leaders, but does an about face when confronted with threats.
Somewhat like Brecht&#039;s take on Galileo &quot;Life of Galileo&quot; in one of his better plays.  Coward when it counts...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OB:  In a play by Gunther Grass about Brecht and the 1953 Berlin riots &#8220;The Plebeians Rehearse the Uprising&#8221;, Brecht gives private support to the rioters by making sarcastic remarks about the regime and its leaders, but does an about face when confronted with threats.<br />
Somewhat like Brecht&#8217;s take on Galileo &#8220;Life of Galileo&#8221; in one of his better plays.  Coward when it counts&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/05/04/international-law-and-bin-ladens-death/#comment-244081</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 16:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t trust Leftist &quot;Black Panther and police acted stupidly&quot; laws in the US. Why would I trust Leftist laws made by the international community. Do I have more influence and power there than our own nation&#039;s DC? *snorts*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t trust Leftist &#8220;Black Panther and police acted stupidly&#8221; laws in the US. Why would I trust Leftist laws made by the international community. Do I have more influence and power there than our own nation&#8217;s DC? *snorts*</p>
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		By: ziontruth		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/05/04/international-law-and-bin-ladens-death/#comment-244061</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziontruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 13:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T,

&quot;International law is an oxymoron. There can be international agreements that are in place, but only as long as parties abide by the agreement. There can never be international &#039;law&#039; because it is subject to being ignored at the whim of any govt of state.&quot;

Quoted for being the gosh-darned truth.

To &quot;at the whim of any govt of state&quot; should be added, &quot;...and non-state actor.&quot;

It&#039;s not only that international law fails on principle, it&#039;s also that international law as it currently stands is like an early 20th-century Encyclopedia Britannica. Just as you wouldn&#039;t look up the 1911 Britannica to learn about computers (except maybe Charles Babbage&#039;s failed attempts at constructing one), international law in its current form is useless because it completely fails to take the Islamic way of warfare into account.

As a refresher, the Islamic way of warfare has never maintained a distinction between civilians and combatants, such a distinction never having existed in 7th-century Arabia (it was tribe against tribe, and the victor would treat the vanquished tribe as a lion would the mate and offspring of the defeated male enemy: Taking the former for his own after killing all the latter).

In modern times, the Islamic way of warfare is coupled with their working of a complicit media. In brief, civilians are placed in the line of fire to create a win-win scenario: Either the non-Muslim enemy refrains from firing, for fear of hurting the civilians; or they fire regardless, and when civilians are inevitably hurt, the Muslims use the dead bodies both as propaganda and as exhibits to be presented before the courts of international &quot;law.&quot; For which reason, besides morality, a non-Muslim army would often hold fire in the first place.

Forgive my being pompous, but I have to declare: Whereas international law does not take the Islamic way of warfare into account; Whereas international law does not take the cynical use of civilian casualties into account; Whereas international law hands the Islamic imperialist enemy its victories on a silver platter, aiding and abetting the Islamization of the world; Be it therefore enacted, that all rules of warfare as stipulated by international law are henceforth null and void, retired in favor of the necessities of survival.

I wish to see that declaration proclaimed by people in positions of power one day. The sooner the better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T,</p>
<p>&#8220;International law is an oxymoron. There can be international agreements that are in place, but only as long as parties abide by the agreement. There can never be international &#8216;law&#8217; because it is subject to being ignored at the whim of any govt of state.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quoted for being the gosh-darned truth.</p>
<p>To &#8220;at the whim of any govt of state&#8221; should be added, &#8220;&#8230;and non-state actor.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not only that international law fails on principle, it&#8217;s also that international law as it currently stands is like an early 20th-century Encyclopedia Britannica. Just as you wouldn&#8217;t look up the 1911 Britannica to learn about computers (except maybe Charles Babbage&#8217;s failed attempts at constructing one), international law in its current form is useless because it completely fails to take the Islamic way of warfare into account.</p>
<p>As a refresher, the Islamic way of warfare has never maintained a distinction between civilians and combatants, such a distinction never having existed in 7th-century Arabia (it was tribe against tribe, and the victor would treat the vanquished tribe as a lion would the mate and offspring of the defeated male enemy: Taking the former for his own after killing all the latter).</p>
<p>In modern times, the Islamic way of warfare is coupled with their working of a complicit media. In brief, civilians are placed in the line of fire to create a win-win scenario: Either the non-Muslim enemy refrains from firing, for fear of hurting the civilians; or they fire regardless, and when civilians are inevitably hurt, the Muslims use the dead bodies both as propaganda and as exhibits to be presented before the courts of international &#8220;law.&#8221; For which reason, besides morality, a non-Muslim army would often hold fire in the first place.</p>
<p>Forgive my being pompous, but I have to declare: Whereas international law does not take the Islamic way of warfare into account; Whereas international law does not take the cynical use of civilian casualties into account; Whereas international law hands the Islamic imperialist enemy its victories on a silver platter, aiding and abetting the Islamization of the world; Be it therefore enacted, that all rules of warfare as stipulated by international law are henceforth null and void, retired in favor of the necessities of survival.</p>
<p>I wish to see that declaration proclaimed by people in positions of power one day. The sooner the better.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 00:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brecht oughta know. Didn&#039;t he support the crackdown of 1953?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brecht oughta know. Didn&#8217;t he support the crackdown of 1953?</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 00:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wretchard has a great comment on moral purists:

http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/comment/157151/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wretchard has a great comment on moral purists:</p>
<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/comment/157151/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/comment/157151/</a></p>
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