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		By: JuliB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JuliB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 05:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[njartist49 - No, if course the Pope hasn&#039;t gone silent...

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1101210.htm

He has appealed for a suspension of the violence.  Our media has gone silent about the Pope though, since it doesn&#039;t fit their pro-Obama agenda.

One of my Cath newspapers featured the Archbishop of Libya expressing what a horrible thing this is to get involved in.  He said that initially is was Libyan vs Libyan - Muslim vs Muslim.  Now, it&#039;s possible it will be seen as a Crusade...  sigh...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>njartist49 &#8211; No, if course the Pope hasn&#8217;t gone silent&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1101210.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1101210.htm</a></p>
<p>He has appealed for a suspension of the violence.  Our media has gone silent about the Pope though, since it doesn&#8217;t fit their pro-Obama agenda.</p>
<p>One of my Cath newspapers featured the Archbishop of Libya expressing what a horrible thing this is to get involved in.  He said that initially is was Libyan vs Libyan &#8211; Muslim vs Muslim.  Now, it&#8217;s possible it will be seen as a Crusade&#8230;  sigh&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 02:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My personal hypothesis is that Obama hopes to bleed the military down enough that there won&#039;t be any problems in the 2012 elections financially or politically.

It&#039;s always easier to take funds from the military when the military needs replenishment of large scale war munitions. Like Vietnam, a lot of that money looks real juicy to Obama&#039;s cronies. A lot of it will go into their pockets and be redistributed there, instead of to the US front lines.

Discretionary spending or surplus spending for military operations has to be voted on, yes. Maintenance for these weapon systems are already there. So if you spend them now, but don&#039;t restock because you control Congress, then you get rid of the maintenance costs. Then you can start getting rid of the military jobs for them.

Well, that&#039;s why I think Obama&#039;s sitting with a big fat grin on his face as he makes our military suffer more stress and combat at least. Just a personal view and assessment, rather than a logical analysis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal hypothesis is that Obama hopes to bleed the military down enough that there won&#8217;t be any problems in the 2012 elections financially or politically.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always easier to take funds from the military when the military needs replenishment of large scale war munitions. Like Vietnam, a lot of that money looks real juicy to Obama&#8217;s cronies. A lot of it will go into their pockets and be redistributed there, instead of to the US front lines.</p>
<p>Discretionary spending or surplus spending for military operations has to be voted on, yes. Maintenance for these weapon systems are already there. So if you spend them now, but don&#8217;t restock because you control Congress, then you get rid of the maintenance costs. Then you can start getting rid of the military jobs for them.</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s why I think Obama&#8217;s sitting with a big fat grin on his face as he makes our military suffer more stress and combat at least. Just a personal view and assessment, rather than a logical analysis.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 02:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh ya, the reason why I think so is because France and Germany were very reticent about allowing their jets to be used for .... combat in Afghanistan. I think France even denied their jets entirely for the use of NATO air support before Chirac got dumped. I&#039;m not sure why they would unleash the dogs of war for Libya, but I presume that they would rather transfer the workload to US pilots if they could. Especially when it comes to cutting off the C3, meaning beheading command and control aka assassination. Always political issues with those and it&#039;s just easier to dump it on America.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh ya, the reason why I think so is because France and Germany were very reticent about allowing their jets to be used for &#8230;. combat in Afghanistan. I think France even denied their jets entirely for the use of NATO air support before Chirac got dumped. I&#8217;m not sure why they would unleash the dogs of war for Libya, but I presume that they would rather transfer the workload to US pilots if they could. Especially when it comes to cutting off the C3, meaning beheading command and control aka assassination. Always political issues with those and it&#8217;s just easier to dump it on America.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 02:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama&#039;s policies, NATO&#039;s aggressive stance, the UN&#039;s quite mysterious presence of decisiveness and quickness in intent and action, as well as the various consistent policy statements of the rebels, all are not produced by Qadaffi&#039;s press releases.

Why would anyone believe so?

Information is not so tight that the funnels are so singular.

The only way to train flight skills is to get them up in the air and fly em. Well, I suppose that doesn&#039;t make sense to people who think their words can cause the sea levels to lower. Too bad that didn&#039;t work for the tsunami in Japan, eh. Then again, I guess Obama was bowing to the Japanese for that ahead of time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s policies, NATO&#8217;s aggressive stance, the UN&#8217;s quite mysterious presence of decisiveness and quickness in intent and action, as well as the various consistent policy statements of the rebels, all are not produced by Qadaffi&#8217;s press releases.</p>
<p>Why would anyone believe so?</p>
<p>Information is not so tight that the funnels are so singular.</p>
<p>The only way to train flight skills is to get them up in the air and fly em. Well, I suppose that doesn&#8217;t make sense to people who think their words can cause the sea levels to lower. Too bad that didn&#8217;t work for the tsunami in Japan, eh. Then again, I guess Obama was bowing to the Japanese for that ahead of time.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 00:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar

The Chinese embassy was a deliberate mistake by an USAF general flying in total blackout from Conus and back.

Strangely, the precision munitions hit the cypher room in the wee hours when only three spies were sending intel back home/ receiving orders.

That&#039;s some mistake!

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The ordnance pictured in the WaPo appears to be uniquely American. It&#039;s a concrete filled artillery tube with precision tacked on.

The flight profile indicates a high speed low altitude release. Since the &#039;residence&#039; is adjacent to the coast such a profile was quite practical.

It didn&#039;t fail to detonate since such was never intended.

Nothing would lead anyone to believe the Duck of Death&#039;s press releases. They&#039;ve been pure chaff so far.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar</p>
<p>The Chinese embassy was a deliberate mistake by an USAF general flying in total blackout from Conus and back.</p>
<p>Strangely, the precision munitions hit the cypher room in the wee hours when only three spies were sending intel back home/ receiving orders.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s some mistake!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>The ordnance pictured in the WaPo appears to be uniquely American. It&#8217;s a concrete filled artillery tube with precision tacked on.</p>
<p>The flight profile indicates a high speed low altitude release. Since the &#8216;residence&#8217; is adjacent to the coast such a profile was quite practical.</p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t fail to detonate since such was never intended.</p>
<p>Nothing would lead anyone to believe the Duck of Death&#8217;s press releases. They&#8217;ve been pure chaff so far.</p>
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		By: Mr. Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 00:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar

In support of your observations was the USAF experience with the F104 Starfighter in the Sixties. The Germans crashed them with great regularity while American pilots did not. It was an unforgiving plane to fly, but the Americans had far more training flight hours allotted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar</p>
<p>In support of your observations was the USAF experience with the F104 Starfighter in the Sixties. The Germans crashed them with great regularity while American pilots did not. It was an unforgiving plane to fly, but the Americans had far more training flight hours allotted.</p>
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		By: njartist49		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[njartist49]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 22:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the Vietnam War until now I have heard the arguments regarding Just War: always against the current U.S. war; now there is only deafening silence. Has the pope gone silent? Has the left forgotten .....let&#039;s rephrase that: this is the Left&#039;s Just War.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Vietnam War until now I have heard the arguments regarding Just War: always against the current U.S. war; now there is only deafening silence. Has the pope gone silent? Has the left forgotten &#8230;..let&#8217;s rephrase that: this is the Left&#8217;s Just War.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 21:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have also noticed that once US forces engage in combat, their rate of accident decreases remarkedly. When Clinton killed the air force and navy pilot&#039;s training budgets, it was natural that the Chinese embassy would get bombed by mistake. What do you expect when you kill people&#039;s live training funds?

But even in OEF, a pilot error with the GPS guidance allowed a JDAM to drop right ontop of a SF A-Team and their local platoon of Afghan allies. But this was in the beginning and people hadn&#039;t had the chance to correct their training procedures and human errors.

Whenever I would heard of a mistake in bombing, it was almost always attributed to NATO, meaning French or German, fighter pilots. That&#039;s to be expected given their lower standard of quality across the board and how little funding they can squeeze from their anti-American, anti-war political hacks at home.

So when I hear of NATo doing this or doing, I&#039;m hedging towards the view that if it was a mistake, it was made by NATO allied members. And if it was deliberate, it was made by US command.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also noticed that once US forces engage in combat, their rate of accident decreases remarkedly. When Clinton killed the air force and navy pilot&#8217;s training budgets, it was natural that the Chinese embassy would get bombed by mistake. What do you expect when you kill people&#8217;s live training funds?</p>
<p>But even in OEF, a pilot error with the GPS guidance allowed a JDAM to drop right ontop of a SF A-Team and their local platoon of Afghan allies. But this was in the beginning and people hadn&#8217;t had the chance to correct their training procedures and human errors.</p>
<p>Whenever I would heard of a mistake in bombing, it was almost always attributed to NATO, meaning French or German, fighter pilots. That&#8217;s to be expected given their lower standard of quality across the board and how little funding they can squeeze from their anti-American, anti-war political hacks at home.</p>
<p>So when I hear of NATo doing this or doing, I&#8217;m hedging towards the view that if it was a mistake, it was made by NATO allied members. And if it was deliberate, it was made by US command.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 21:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Qadafi rules using tribalism, similar to Saddam&#039;s Sunni supporters. Thus it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if Qadafi had family in the &quot;family business&quot; working on the homeland defense.

Whether they thought they would get bombed while doing so, is a mystery.

After all, they know that we tried to blow up Saddam once a twice in OIF. So it is not entirely impossible. And Qadaffi of all people, who lost a son to US bombing retaliation, should know the risks. But that doesn&#039;t mean they knew how to mitigate those risks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qadafi rules using tribalism, similar to Saddam&#8217;s Sunni supporters. Thus it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if Qadafi had family in the &#8220;family business&#8221; working on the homeland defense.</p>
<p>Whether they thought they would get bombed while doing so, is a mystery.</p>
<p>After all, they know that we tried to blow up Saddam once a twice in OIF. So it is not entirely impossible. And Qadaffi of all people, who lost a son to US bombing retaliation, should know the risks. But that doesn&#8217;t mean they knew how to mitigate those risks.</p>
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		By: Mr. Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 20:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t really know who if anybody was killed. The youngest son has no children so where did the three grandchildren come from. Some photos I&#039;ve seen of the aftermath show lots of broken up concrete. Was it a bunker?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t really know who if anybody was killed. The youngest son has no children so where did the three grandchildren come from. Some photos I&#8217;ve seen of the aftermath show lots of broken up concrete. Was it a bunker?</p>
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