I suggested the NRO article as another POV because the NRO is a reputable organization. I read and reread this today: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=185202 and since IMO this fellow is honest and forthright, I am now inclined to believe that this ‘long form’ is suspicious indeed. But that begs the question of why would BHO float a bogus, easily discredited ‘document’.?

Consider Rather. Because of that, perhaps it took 2.5 years to make a damned good forgery. The governor of HI couldn’t find it. The Donald certainly has the cash to pursue. Did Obama have the only copy hidden away in a safe deposit box? My long form, original live birth certificate has my footprint….etc.

I don’t trust him, I don’t believe him. Nor do I have to.

After all, he sternly reminded us: “We have better stuff to do. *I* have better stuff to do.”

(His pronouncement lost a little of its gravitas, though, when it became known that Obama’s “better stuff to do” was “go tape a TV show with Oprah”.)

why? i makes only the lightest cursory argument to people who dont use the software.

i have used EVERY professional version of adobe..

yes… adobe DOES have character recognition.
but lets be honest here. and take a look at ALL parts together.

imagine trying to win for the defendant a murder case by pointing to one thing, getting it wrong, and then not address everything else!!!!!!!!!

and now you have the way that article was written.

they keep doing this. its a misdirection game.

ie.. you say, you want the rules of presidential requirements followed… they say, why? etc.

you say, the records should be checked, even if they are not needed any more, the law was not changed. you dont get to choose which laws you will follow and which ones you wont, that makes law a farce.

but what is the argument? that the right is saying that he is born in kenya… smuggled into the US… etc.

but IS that what they are saying? not at all.

so you see this misdirection game that in the absence of recordings, personal computers, and tons of other things that have changed since 1917 when the playbook was written…

havent you ever gotten another person to accept something by refusing to budge on the point? by claiming with utter certainty to the point that they start questioning themselves rather than conflict with the liar?

thats the game.

lets take things one at a time (on some of them), and start with the point from the aritcle. that pdfs make layers.

yes they do… but you see, the person who is arguing is not an expert in adobe… are they? so their claims are quite spurious.

go to HIS example… now drill down and into it.
do you see the halos around the lettering?
nope.

ALSO… take a look at the original COLB which the white house released WITH the new birth certificate.

why is the NEW colb missing the colors, and the hint of a signature on it? the color version has that and TONS of artifacts that show it was constructed.

ok.. now look at his document again… look at the letters and numbers, etc.. now. do they look to have some generated one way, and some another?

ie.. did the graphics program inject changes to the images by adding sharpening halos, and all these artifacts? nope..

now. take a look at the new certificate..

why is the left edge of the paper curled as if it was a copy? look carefully.. its logically wrong on all counts. whether your copying to a page with the pattern on it, or whether your inserting the image on a page and then printing it with the graphics on it.

LOOK CAREFULLY…
upper left of the image in the page…

if the image was copied onto the page (the green part being preprinted and the black part added), then why is all the white of the original removed to show the pattern?

ie… why was the white part of the original made transparent so that the pattern would bleed through?

now.. if its printed on the pattern and the pattern is photocopied… why isnt the pattern doing its security job?

ok.. anyone here OTHER than me ever see markup language notes in the art ad field?

i guess the person who marked up the original source, didnt mark up a copy… which is why there are all those pencil marks.. why did someone mark the copy before scanning so that it would appear?

ie… a copy of a copy? or is the original record book marked with pencil all over?

look at the date on box 20… why is the year number different than the rest of it?

now move down…
you have a certification stamp…

but its not on the page with the curve..
and if you lok at the outer edge of that page…
you can see that the page part line edge is darker than the rest of the pattern…

now… care to note the funny part?

its PERFECTLY aligned with the pattern..

have you EVER tried to line up a security pattern and a copy print and get it perfect?

the WHOLE functional point of security patterns is that you CANT line them up and so they cause moire patterns and artifacts.

why is the security pattern not security…

remember, if the security pattern is a graphic in a computer, and not a copy… then it will print perfectly.. its the COPY that wont print right.

and if the security paper was what they printed on, then how did they get the print for the pdf without it making the artifacts?

you see..

only to the ignorant… which is the majority population under progressive education, and progressive taxes and progressive unions.

This ‘birth certificate’ now raises the issue of natural-born citizenship, which Obama cannot have obtained if his father really is Barack, Sr. Won’t hold my breath for that conversation to take place, not after all the political punderati obfuscations over such a simple process as releasing a ‘birth certificate’.

Or did he just mess up worse than he usually does?

Aside from all that, one thing should be noted. Since his stated father (albeit on the photoshopped lfbc) is a non-U.S. citizen, he is not eligible to be president, regardless where he was born, as I understand things.

Nothing has or will be done, no matter. That, to me, is the part that is nasty. It means the rule of law is more than just a bit broken, it is undone.