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	Comments on: More tremors in the forcefield: George Monbiot has some doubts	</title>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/04/09/more-tremors-in-the-forcefield-george-monbiot-has-some-doubts/#comment-240115</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[brad is trying to dialogue to consensus... 
ie, convince us that others agree and so we should be ashamed.. 

its right out of havlock...  

the part they DONT tell the morons that do it, is that the people at the table know what they are doing... which is why, when you do this, and you do things like brainstrorming (xfering the success from one to many), the best brains leave. 

and guess what? 

as my boss is finding out... 
stupid is unable, but ignorant is not knowing
she equates the two, and so she wants to believe that her few years of dabbling is programming, and so she can assert things that wont work, put pressure that makes no sense, and then use the fact she is doing this and threatinign a life and family, to justify not having a person who does know present.. 

the truth is that we are not equal, and she is falling apart and the department is falling apart as thats how she acts,behaves etc..

she has the totalitarian mindset. 
power makes things real
and if power orders and it doesnt happen, then we are just being mean and a whip plaited with wire will help. 

no matter how much you beat a turnip, it wont bleed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brad is trying to dialogue to consensus&#8230;<br />
ie, convince us that others agree and so we should be ashamed.. </p>
<p>its right out of havlock&#8230;  </p>
<p>the part they DONT tell the morons that do it, is that the people at the table know what they are doing&#8230; which is why, when you do this, and you do things like brainstrorming (xfering the success from one to many), the best brains leave. </p>
<p>and guess what? </p>
<p>as my boss is finding out&#8230;<br />
stupid is unable, but ignorant is not knowing<br />
she equates the two, and so she wants to believe that her few years of dabbling is programming, and so she can assert things that wont work, put pressure that makes no sense, and then use the fact she is doing this and threatinign a life and family, to justify not having a person who does know present.. </p>
<p>the truth is that we are not equal, and she is falling apart and the department is falling apart as thats how she acts,behaves etc..</p>
<p>she has the totalitarian mindset.<br />
power makes things real<br />
and if power orders and it doesnt happen, then we are just being mean and a whip plaited with wire will help. </p>
<p>no matter how much you beat a turnip, it wont bleed.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 02:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[brad.
Actually, not every major scientific organization in the work.
See CRU getting busted.  See Watt&#039;s Up With That blog.
However, those who still claim to believe get the subsidies.  Grants. Publish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brad.<br />
Actually, not every major scientific organization in the work.<br />
See CRU getting busted.  See Watt&#8217;s Up With That blog.<br />
However, those who still claim to believe get the subsidies.  Grants. Publish.</p>
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		By: brad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey:

Funny, I think the science behind global warming is stronger and more extensive than ever. You assert otherwise. Neither of us is the expert , so who wins?

Forgive me for going with the expressed opinions of pretty much every major scientific organization in the world on this subject. I think the probability lies that way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Aubrey:</p>
<p>Funny, I think the science behind global warming is stronger and more extensive than ever. You assert otherwise. Neither of us is the expert , so who wins?</p>
<p>Forgive me for going with the expressed opinions of pretty much every major scientific organization in the world on this subject. I think the probability lies that way.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[brad.  You presume the scientists in the field of global warming--a nonexistent field so we&#039;ll say in climate science--overwhelmingly agree that AGW is a reality.
Many, many do not. The so-called science behind the IPCC pronouncements is falling apart, chunk by chunk, with some scientists who were supposedly signatories claiming that wasn&#039;t what they said.  

Ray.  Ref. Des Moines.  A one-meg blast is pretty big.  Thing is, Caldicott and her mouthpieces had no connection to reality.  So if were going to take five meg, or half a meg, no biggie.  Point is, when they&#039;re against US missiles and you point out that it&#039;s Sov missiles which would be exploding over Des Moines, they simply repeat the only thing they&#039;ve managed to memorize.
Morons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brad.  You presume the scientists in the field of global warming&#8211;a nonexistent field so we&#8217;ll say in climate science&#8211;overwhelmingly agree that AGW is a reality.<br />
Many, many do not. The so-called science behind the IPCC pronouncements is falling apart, chunk by chunk, with some scientists who were supposedly signatories claiming that wasn&#8217;t what they said.  </p>
<p>Ray.  Ref. Des Moines.  A one-meg blast is pretty big.  Thing is, Caldicott and her mouthpieces had no connection to reality.  So if were going to take five meg, or half a meg, no biggie.  Point is, when they&#8217;re against US missiles and you point out that it&#8217;s Sov missiles which would be exploding over Des Moines, they simply repeat the only thing they&#8217;ve managed to memorize.<br />
Morons.</p>
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		By: brad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The same reason I support nuclear power and tended to dismiss the arguments against it as ignorant is the reason that I dismiss most arguments against climate change as ignorant: the scientists in the relevent fields overwhelmingly supported nuclear power and the scientists in the relevent fields overwhelmingly support global warming.

It takes a special brand of chutzpah to imagine that you know more than experts in fields you&#039;ve never studied or that people who are aligned with the Heartland Institute and other oil/energy sector think tanks are paragons of scientific virtue, but that the average climate researcher in all the different countries all over the globe is a well-paid member of a vast conspiracy of evil scientists.

I had no idea the League of Supervillians really existed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same reason I support nuclear power and tended to dismiss the arguments against it as ignorant is the reason that I dismiss most arguments against climate change as ignorant: the scientists in the relevent fields overwhelmingly supported nuclear power and the scientists in the relevent fields overwhelmingly support global warming.</p>
<p>It takes a special brand of chutzpah to imagine that you know more than experts in fields you&#8217;ve never studied or that people who are aligned with the Heartland Institute and other oil/energy sector think tanks are paragons of scientific virtue, but that the average climate researcher in all the different countries all over the globe is a well-paid member of a vast conspiracy of evil scientists.</p>
<p>I had no idea the League of Supervillians really existed.</p>
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		By: ropelight		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ropelight]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Anybody can pretend.&quot; 

Like Bill and Hill when Monica was much in the news. Bill got religion and Hill mused about adopting a child. Then Bill sent Air Force bombers after an African aspirin factory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anybody can pretend.&#8221; </p>
<p>Like Bill and Hill when Monica was much in the news. Bill got religion and Hill mused about adopting a child. Then Bill sent Air Force bombers after an African aspirin factory.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The reported Des Moines population as of the 2000 census is 198,682.

That one megaton blast is going to kill everyone in Des Moines.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reported Des Moines population as of the 2000 census is 198,682.</p>
<p>That one megaton blast is going to kill everyone in Des Moines.</p>
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		By: Promethea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Promethea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Surellin . . .

He and his wife may have &quot;debated,&quot; but the question is, did they get the car, or not?

Anybody can pretend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surellin . . .</p>
<p>He and his wife may have &#8220;debated,&#8221; but the question is, did they get the car, or not?</p>
<p>Anybody can pretend.</p>
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		By: Surellin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surellin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Although I disagree with almost everything that Monbiot writes (up until this month, at least) I do have a certain amount of respect for him.  He actually debated the propriety of his buying an automobile when he and his wife moved out of Oxford and into the wilds of Wales.  That argues well for his character - too many environmentalists (see Gore, Al) have no qualms about chartering a private jet themselves and letting the little people do the conserving.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I disagree with almost everything that Monbiot writes (up until this month, at least) I do have a certain amount of respect for him.  He actually debated the propriety of his buying an automobile when he and his wife moved out of Oxford and into the wilds of Wales.  That argues well for his character &#8211; too many environmentalists (see Gore, Al) have no qualms about chartering a private jet themselves and letting the little people do the conserving.</p>
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		By: Doom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 04:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh my!  Keep a reporting page, but start up a humor blog too.  Now, it was on the inside, but I am still laughing my mind off after reading this post.  You really can&#039;t make up material that is as good as this.  No one but liberals would believe it, and since it isn&#039;t within their paradigm, they would not enjoy it.  Thanks for the chuckles... or passing them around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my!  Keep a reporting page, but start up a humor blog too.  Now, it was on the inside, but I am still laughing my mind off after reading this post.  You really can&#8217;t make up material that is as good as this.  No one but liberals would believe it, and since it isn&#8217;t within their paradigm, they would not enjoy it.  Thanks for the chuckles&#8230; or passing them around.</p>
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