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		By: hattip		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hattip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 07:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SteveH: It is you that lack &quot;perspective&quot;, not to mention language skills.

Your &quot;position:, such as one can make it out, is absurd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SteveH: It is you that lack &#8220;perspective&#8221;, not to mention language skills.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;position:, such as one can make it out, is absurd.</p>
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		By: Charles Maxwell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Maxwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 17:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First, thanks for that walk down memory lane. The music of S&#038;G always moved me. It did more today than at any time in the past. Thanks for that. PS: Ann, I thoroughly enjoy reading through the commentary after one of your superb posts. Allow me to hattip one of your best posters - hattip! His/her comments are both timely and relevant. Thanks to hattip.  I hope you will continue to comment here. Maxwell, CDR, USN (Ret)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thanks for that walk down memory lane. The music of S&amp;G always moved me. It did more today than at any time in the past. Thanks for that. PS: Ann, I thoroughly enjoy reading through the commentary after one of your superb posts. Allow me to hattip one of your best posters &#8211; hattip! His/her comments are both timely and relevant. Thanks to hattip.  I hope you will continue to comment here. Maxwell, CDR, USN (Ret)</p>
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		By: mitty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mitty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 10:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i am just a lowlife whose vote is bought and sold
as i squander your existence
on a pocketful of kickbacks such is politics
all hope and change still the voters hear what they&#039;re told to hear and never find it strange 
that the promises we make are never kept

when i first arrived in washington i was still a bit naive still had faith in my convictions
then power&#039;s aphrodisia cast its spell on me
now i&#039;m flying high seeking out the lavish parties where the richest donors go cutting deals with them that we call quid pro quos

seeking constant reelection i come pandering for votes and money for my coffers and the blandishments of those who shape your point of view
i do declare there are times when i am so loathsome that even i&#039;m depressed
then i take comfort in the knowledge that i&#039;m just like all the rest

lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie all us politicians ever do is lie

then i&#039;m laying out my strategy and practicing the lies i&#039;ll tell back home so my constituents won&#039;t realize i&#039;m screwing them while wooing them to vote for me mmm mmm mmm mmm

in the senate sits a boxer preening endlessly as she undermines our freedom and interrupts a general condescendingly as she cries out
in her hubris and disdain call me senator i&#039;ve worked too hard for you to call me maam and as for your profession i don&#039;t give a damn

lie lie lie...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am just a lowlife whose vote is bought and sold<br />
as i squander your existence<br />
on a pocketful of kickbacks such is politics<br />
all hope and change still the voters hear what they&#8217;re told to hear and never find it strange<br />
that the promises we make are never kept</p>
<p>when i first arrived in washington i was still a bit naive still had faith in my convictions<br />
then power&#8217;s aphrodisia cast its spell on me<br />
now i&#8217;m flying high seeking out the lavish parties where the richest donors go cutting deals with them that we call quid pro quos</p>
<p>seeking constant reelection i come pandering for votes and money for my coffers and the blandishments of those who shape your point of view<br />
i do declare there are times when i am so loathsome that even i&#8217;m depressed<br />
then i take comfort in the knowledge that i&#8217;m just like all the rest</p>
<p>lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie all us politicians ever do is lie</p>
<p>then i&#8217;m laying out my strategy and practicing the lies i&#8217;ll tell back home so my constituents won&#8217;t realize i&#8217;m screwing them while wooing them to vote for me mmm mmm mmm mmm</p>
<p>in the senate sits a boxer preening endlessly as she undermines our freedom and interrupts a general condescendingly as she cries out<br />
in her hubris and disdain call me senator i&#8217;ve worked too hard for you to call me maam and as for your profession i don&#8217;t give a damn</p>
<p>lie lie lie&#8230;</p>
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		By: Wandriaan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wandriaan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 22:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem is that the sixtees had an angelic and a satanic side, and both were interwoven. I remember how very good and very bad young people were into it, and I still feel the bitterness of having witnessed the truly good being crushed and the truly bad getting away with all the financial and social spoils.
The two sides are most apparent in &#039;Imagine&#039; of John Lennon. On the one hand it is a lovely dream of universal freedom without ressentment and prejudice, on the other hand it was an  evil popversion of the  evil communist manifesto.
Today, thirty years later, sadder and wiser,  I cannot listen to this song without being reminded and revolted of all the lies of the Left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that the sixtees had an angelic and a satanic side, and both were interwoven. I remember how very good and very bad young people were into it, and I still feel the bitterness of having witnessed the truly good being crushed and the truly bad getting away with all the financial and social spoils.<br />
The two sides are most apparent in &#8216;Imagine&#8217; of John Lennon. On the one hand it is a lovely dream of universal freedom without ressentment and prejudice, on the other hand it was an  evil popversion of the  evil communist manifesto.<br />
Today, thirty years later, sadder and wiser,  I cannot listen to this song without being reminded and revolted of all the lies of the Left.</p>
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		By: Tesh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tangentially, I&#039;ve found it interesting to listen to songs in languages that I don&#039;t know, Japanese and Korean lately.  It&#039;s quite possible to appreciate the vocals purely on a musical level.  That said, in some cases, when I hear the song rendered with English lyrics, the words do indeed get in the way of the music.

As a kid, I didn&#039;t so much listen to S&#038;G as hippie poetry as I listened to it as music.  Heck, some of it actually was rendered as pure music via the wonders of &quot;elevator music&quot; modification.  Now, maybe that made me a brainless lump of a child, but I maintain it&#039;s possible to hear only what you&#039;re listening for, for good or for ill.

And notably, I find myself listening to lyrics more these days, and tossing out some old favorites, and even some new ones, simply because of the lyrics.  The music can still be great, but the lyrics break the piece.

...and yes, most of what I listen to is pure music, classical or modern orchestral, or the occasional foreign piece (opera taps into this, too, though I can&#039;t stand vibrato).  Maybe someday, when I learn Japanese, I&#039;ll toss out even more songs for stupid lyrics.  Or if I find out Vivaldi was a mentally deficient protocommunist, I&#039;ll toss that music, too.  *shrug*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tangentially, I&#8217;ve found it interesting to listen to songs in languages that I don&#8217;t know, Japanese and Korean lately.  It&#8217;s quite possible to appreciate the vocals purely on a musical level.  That said, in some cases, when I hear the song rendered with English lyrics, the words do indeed get in the way of the music.</p>
<p>As a kid, I didn&#8217;t so much listen to S&amp;G as hippie poetry as I listened to it as music.  Heck, some of it actually was rendered as pure music via the wonders of &#8220;elevator music&#8221; modification.  Now, maybe that made me a brainless lump of a child, but I maintain it&#8217;s possible to hear only what you&#8217;re listening for, for good or for ill.</p>
<p>And notably, I find myself listening to lyrics more these days, and tossing out some old favorites, and even some new ones, simply because of the lyrics.  The music can still be great, but the lyrics break the piece.</p>
<p>&#8230;and yes, most of what I listen to is pure music, classical or modern orchestral, or the occasional foreign piece (opera taps into this, too, though I can&#8217;t stand vibrato).  Maybe someday, when I learn Japanese, I&#8217;ll toss out even more songs for stupid lyrics.  Or if I find out Vivaldi was a mentally deficient protocommunist, I&#8217;ll toss that music, too.  *shrug*</p>
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		By: Don Janousek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Janousek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Listened to them a lot in Vietnam.

When I was in Naval Supply School in San Diego in the Summer and Fall of 1967, went to a concert by the Lovin&#039; Spoonful where Simon and Garfunkel were the opening act.

&quot;Richard Corey,&quot; &quot;The Boxer,&quot; &quot;Bridge Over Troubled Water&quot; - great stuff at the time.

Nowadays - old and time-worn.  Kay Kyser and his Kollege of Musical Knowledge in 1975 - doesn&#039;t fit.

Retire and drool, guys.  Is what I&#039;m doing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listened to them a lot in Vietnam.</p>
<p>When I was in Naval Supply School in San Diego in the Summer and Fall of 1967, went to a concert by the Lovin&#8217; Spoonful where Simon and Garfunkel were the opening act.</p>
<p>&#8220;Richard Corey,&#8221; &#8220;The Boxer,&#8221; &#8220;Bridge Over Troubled Water&#8221; &#8211; great stuff at the time.</p>
<p>Nowadays &#8211; old and time-worn.  Kay Kyser and his Kollege of Musical Knowledge in 1975 &#8211; doesn&#8217;t fit.</p>
<p>Retire and drool, guys.  Is what I&#8217;m doing.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Got the Kingston Trio on Youtube, searching for &quot;They Call The Wind Mariah&quot;.  None of the old guys was there. Three new ones.  Did a good job.  They should change their name.  None of the old time fans are going to pay money to see new guys just because of the name and new fans aren&#039;t going to want to see what sounds like their grandma&#039;s music.
Anybody remember Maynard Ferguson?  His schtick was to hit high C over a cat fight on his trumpet.
Saw he was booked into a local high school not to many years ago. I bet he wishes he&#039;d paid more attention to his 401k.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got the Kingston Trio on Youtube, searching for &#8220;They Call The Wind Mariah&#8221;.  None of the old guys was there. Three new ones.  Did a good job.  They should change their name.  None of the old time fans are going to pay money to see new guys just because of the name and new fans aren&#8217;t going to want to see what sounds like their grandma&#8217;s music.<br />
Anybody remember Maynard Ferguson?  His schtick was to hit high C over a cat fight on his trumpet.<br />
Saw he was booked into a local high school not to many years ago. I bet he wishes he&#8217;d paid more attention to his 401k.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, I don’t like entertainers of any sort who desperately hang on to the door frame to the stage with their fingernails, and don’t gracefully exit that stage when their talents diminish–not so much a problem with actors as it seems to be with singers.  I can understand an addiction to adulation, but it is unseemly–if that concept is even still operative in these degenerate days. For an example, Wolftrap, here in the Washington, D. C. metro area, keeps bringing back the geriatric Peter, Paul, and Mary and other similarly aged entertainers each year.  Personally, I do not want to hear some old, washed-up, often bloated, bewigged and toupeed,   barely mobile geezer croak out a hacked up i.e. they change the charts, compress the range of notes to accommodate the “star’s” waning abilities--version of a song they sang pretty well many decades ago.

Then, of course, I cannot separate the singer and his or her political views from their songs, especially when those singers have broken out of character,  stepped up to the mike, and lectured all of us unwashed patrons--who have made them rich--about what uninformed boobs, and mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging troglodytes, racists, and haters we all are.

Then, of course, there is the propaganda aspect it all those songs, for everything is, ultimately, “propaganda,” in the sense that words and songs, poetry and plays, TV shows, movies and video games alter our “balance,” hold up examples of behavior, tell us what is to be valued and what to be shunned, push us in one direction or another. 

Never underestimate the power of Songs.  

Songs set the scene and establish a mood, ratify certain behaviors and emotions, and portray others as bad,  they are the almost subliminal messages that form the background of our lives, and influence us in many ways, both overt and subtle. In the case of the pernicious 60’s, those songs had a very great deal to do with promoting the culture of sex, drugs and rock’n roll, with setting us on a new cultural course; a cultural atomic bomb whose fallout we are still suffering from today.  The 60s massively changed attitudes and behaviors of many, many people for the worse, and twisted and poisoned a whole generation of young people–and many older ones as well–who have transmitted those attitudes, values  and behaviors foreword, and many who were so powerfully and deeply changed by the 60s or their heirs are in positions of power today ,and calling the shots.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I don’t like entertainers of any sort who desperately hang on to the door frame to the stage with their fingernails, and don’t gracefully exit that stage when their talents diminish–not so much a problem with actors as it seems to be with singers.  I can understand an addiction to adulation, but it is unseemly–if that concept is even still operative in these degenerate days. For an example, Wolftrap, here in the Washington, D. C. metro area, keeps bringing back the geriatric Peter, Paul, and Mary and other similarly aged entertainers each year.  Personally, I do not want to hear some old, washed-up, often bloated, bewigged and toupeed,   barely mobile geezer croak out a hacked up i.e. they change the charts, compress the range of notes to accommodate the “star’s” waning abilities&#8211;version of a song they sang pretty well many decades ago.</p>
<p>Then, of course, I cannot separate the singer and his or her political views from their songs, especially when those singers have broken out of character,  stepped up to the mike, and lectured all of us unwashed patrons&#8211;who have made them rich&#8211;about what uninformed boobs, and mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging troglodytes, racists, and haters we all are.</p>
<p>Then, of course, there is the propaganda aspect it all those songs, for everything is, ultimately, “propaganda,” in the sense that words and songs, poetry and plays, TV shows, movies and video games alter our “balance,” hold up examples of behavior, tell us what is to be valued and what to be shunned, push us in one direction or another. </p>
<p>Never underestimate the power of Songs.  </p>
<p>Songs set the scene and establish a mood, ratify certain behaviors and emotions, and portray others as bad,  they are the almost subliminal messages that form the background of our lives, and influence us in many ways, both overt and subtle. In the case of the pernicious 60’s, those songs had a very great deal to do with promoting the culture of sex, drugs and rock’n roll, with setting us on a new cultural course; a cultural atomic bomb whose fallout we are still suffering from today.  The 60s massively changed attitudes and behaviors of many, many people for the worse, and twisted and poisoned a whole generation of young people–and many older ones as well–who have transmitted those attitudes, values  and behaviors foreword, and many who were so powerfully and deeply changed by the 60s or their heirs are in positions of power today ,and calling the shots.</p>
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		By: &#8220;It&#8217;s nothing, it&#8217;s la guitare&#8230;&#8221; (updated 4/6/11) &#124; Amused Cynic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;It&#8217;s nothing, it&#8217;s la guitare&#8230;&#8221; (updated 4/6/11) &#124; Amused Cynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 13:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] to come&#8230;[In an interesting bit of synchronicity, I just noticed that Neo-neocon was having nostalgic thoughts about S&#038;G on the same day I was. Cool.]   This entry was posted [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to come&#8230;[In an interesting bit of synchronicity, I just noticed that Neo-neocon was having nostalgic thoughts about S&#38;G on the same day I was. Cool.]   This entry was posted [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 13:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;Question: Is it that they still Believe? Is it that they recall the time when they Believed? Is it simply the music in isolation?&quot;&quot;
Richard Aubrey

 There are songs i love that i purposely avoid and wont put on my ipod or youtube favorited because they seem so wonderfully connected with the times i recall them from and i don&#039;t want to dilute that. Upon hearing them, they can still conjure up feelings i held at the time and even give flashes of sights and smells from that time that my mind otherwise can&#039;t seem to properly recall without it. I know, it&#039;s a weird thing. 

 I don&#039;t want to &quot;own&quot; these songs. I&#039;m content just hearing them by chance maybe once or twice a year on the radio. It keeps their magic intact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Question: Is it that they still Believe? Is it that they recall the time when they Believed? Is it simply the music in isolation?&#8221;&#8221;<br />
Richard Aubrey</p>
<p> There are songs i love that i purposely avoid and wont put on my ipod or youtube favorited because they seem so wonderfully connected with the times i recall them from and i don&#8217;t want to dilute that. Upon hearing them, they can still conjure up feelings i held at the time and even give flashes of sights and smells from that time that my mind otherwise can&#8217;t seem to properly recall without it. I know, it&#8217;s a weird thing. </p>
<p> I don&#8217;t want to &#8220;own&#8221; these songs. I&#8217;m content just hearing them by chance maybe once or twice a year on the radio. It keeps their magic intact.</p>
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