Comments on: War by committee https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/ A blog about political change, among other things Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:09:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Artfldgr https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236504 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:09:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236504 Valid to whom?
there is non universal validity…
so do identify the people who we are referring to
the helpless common man of good nature and brotherly love, or the sociopathic people in power expressing ulterior motives?

]]> By: Sergey https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236473 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:54:57 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236473 There could be at least 3 valid goals for Libya campaign:
1. Averting large-scale mass murder.
2. Get rid of Qaddafi. He never was US-owned SOB; now he is a loose cannon, and hardly any possible Libyan government could be worse than him.
3. Assert US credibility as a world superpower to hold other SOBs at bay.
But as by now this campaign failed to achieve any of these goals, and in absence of clear US leadership it will achieve nothing.

]]> By: rickl https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236469 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:23:46 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236469 I think Germany would have won WWI. France was on the brink of collapse in 1917. Several units mutinied and left the trenches unguarded for a time. The Germans didn’t know that, so they failed to take advantage.

Remember that the Germans arranged for Lenin to take a train trip to Russia. They were hoping that he would cause trouble over there, and he didn’t disappoint them.

Nope, Obama’s my pick, by a mile. Get a load of this:

Woman Tied to 9/11, Fannie Mae on Obama’s FBI Shortlist!

Not just any woman, but none other than Jamie Gorelick herself! If a revised edition of The Peter Principle is ever published, she would get a whole chapter. Can anybody still doubt that Obama’s goal is nothing less than the destruction of the United States?

]]> By: test https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236448 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 06:22:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236448 test

]]> By: Occam's Beard https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236425 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 02:43:32 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236425 A worthy choice, from a strong field of contenders.

]]> By: Parker https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236404 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:08:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236404 rickl says,

“If the US had left them alone in 1917, the problem probably would have sorted itself out. There would almost certainly have been no WWII, and maybe no Russian Revolution.”

I’m not sure of your latter conjecture, but I agree the first one is realistic. We should not have become involved in WW 1. Both sides were exhausted and would have come to a cease fire on very different terms than those imposed upon Germany than the Treaty of Versailles.

Woodrow Wilson, for many reasons, remains my pick for the worst president our republic has suffered.

]]> By: rickl https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236394 Thu, 24 Mar 2011 00:17:58 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236394 LAG Says:
March 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 pm
The real leadership of Europe will eventually be sorted out, unsurprisingly, between German and France.

If the US had left them alone in 1917, the problem probably would have sorted itself out. There would almost certainly have been no WWII, and maybe no Russian Revolution. If there had been no Russian Revolution, then there would have been no exporting of Communism to the Third World, triggering yet more revolutions.

Imagine how different the world of today might be.

]]> By: Parker https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236390 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:58:42 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236390 “The real leadership of Europe will eventually be sorted out, unsurprisingly, between German and France.”

That is the real see-saw struggle in the euro zone. The French are in over their heads in ‘leading’ this ill-conceived intervention in Libya. The Germans are wise to sit back and watch it fall apart.

]]> By: LAG https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236387 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:43:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236387 Parker, I agree. The problem is knowing where that internal-external line in the sand is drawn, as your Portugal link suggests. The real leadership of Europe will eventually be sorted out, unsurprisingly, between German and France. Maybe Portugal, Greece, and the others are the cost of admission. If so I’d expect something in return that the Germans can point to in return.

BTW, I always thought it funny when I went to work at SHAPE that the main corridor in the building through which nearly everyone had to pass was occupied by the Germans. Psychological high ground.

]]> By: Parker https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236382 Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:27:51 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/23/war-by-committee/#comment-236382 LAG,

I think it wise to pay attention to the internal politics of Germany in the days ahead, especially if the global credit-debt crisis worsens (which I’m betting on in my investments). The Germans are getting tired of ponying up to bail out the fools of the Euro zone. Political, social, and economic turmoil in Germany often embroils the entire world. 🙁

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