It’s a crime to me.

the scam of the priori of zion has been maintained by energy from the soviet state… and so the idea of the Jewish conspiracy to take over the world, and so forth, never dies (until they do, or the energy is gone, etc).

modern kitsch wisdom from last centuries commenter has not been fully refined by time…

along with the victors write the history, as a variation of to the victors belong the spoils, in this case the spoil being the privilege of dictating a temporary history… till next fight..

and all this doesn’t even take in the truth and validity of the nature of reality as exposed or illustrated in Rashomon…

nor does it take in all the other deep thought as to what truth is, vs other things. steeped in the malaise of nihilistic materialist only existence, its hard to see truth beyond what we think is concrete.

often, i notice that when one introduces a new fact, that it has no effect. to quote a comment on global warming that illustrated the point in the abstract…

If you take the time to read this abstract, you may or may not notice the effect, or the condition, or whatever you want to call it to label it so we can talk about it (for all i care you can call it Penelope – such label language systems arent reality to me).

Acceleration of the contribution of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets to sea level rise
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2011/2011GL046583.shtml

in this example, they do it to themselves.
but in other examples i see when i step back, i CONSTANTLY watch people have it happen to them from an external, but do the same thing, with only the source of the contradiction being different.

Ice sheet mass balance estimates have improved substantially in recent years using a variety of techniques, over different time periods, and at various levels of spatial detail. Considerable disparity remains between these estimates due to the inherent uncertainties of each method, the lack of detailed comparison between independent estimates

yada yada yada…

but here is a quote, that illustrates it.

Notice something in the abstract? More than the first quarter of it is devoted to saying how unreliable are the gravity-based measurements they use. They then of course go on to claim that they have got it right. That they have got it WRONG is obvious however. Why? Because their fundamental claim that sea levels are rising at an accelerating rate is false! The satellite data shows in fact that sea level rise rates have slowed in the last five years.

facts and meaning to exist have to have effect!

its odd to me that when i put in a fact, a fact that should have every one re-jigger things. its as if it goes in one ear and out the other, and there is nary any thing more substantial than aerogel to stop it.

we talk about the financial crisis..
now there is a report pointing out that a huge part of it was also an outside attack… do we change our assessments and arguments and assumptions?

no…

i point out ted Kennedy crap when he was alive… did it modify any points any one made, or was making as to him, his truthfulness, and so on? not an iota… but when the same stuff is now released as a record… its a big news thing…

it points to the other side of truth

that one has to be open to receive it and let it change you…

the truth shall set you free.. .

funny how many lines from the bible the secular steal for their songs… and comments, and so forth.

if they moved any papers, hung things on wall with tape, and so on… thats VANDALISM… and the state and people do not have to tolerate their remaining to be vandals… as vandals, and protesters are different thing..

as are visgoths… but thats another story… 🙂

Often said, but untrue…

Churchill was wrong…
[He won, how’s his history?]

Communism lost… now apply that to your history above.. Do we know or believe the atrocities committed? Do we understand the subversion known to have happened and detailed. Methods? Ideals? Goals? Where are all the movies to show the history?

A complete blank spot, eh?

Noticing what’s missing is harder than noticing what’s not missing.
What’s missing? Where are all the things one would expect?

Did the capitalists write the history after the war, or did Zinn a communist?

Do we believe the facts, or the leftist narrative?

Why did the losers get to write history this time?

[heck, to the point that a film clip from a left liberal american movie, was what was used to create propaganda that got two soldiers shot in germany!!!!!!!!!! ]

The losers got to write history…
So the assertion that the winners do, is false.
[the assertion does not make an exception to a society who lets the losers run around and take up education positions, writing positions, history positions, publishing positions, and such… if we let ex Nazis take over all that, do you think those losers would have written the history of the winners?]

Actually its completely false in that we have gone back and discovered things and resurrected what was cut out…

I side with Betsy… i think more about it. (and I suspect she does too given her answers)

In my book, Betsy beat Churchill on this one 

he was kicked out by the fabians… tried to warn about Hitler. so did bonhoeffer above. when the ridiculed ideas and facts became reality, and the Fabians realized that they were going to be under Hitler, not stalin… they invited Churchill back…

The minute the war was over what did they do to him?
So did the winner, or the subversives get to write history?
And did the subversives history last, or did the truth?

and lastly, after answering the above, can you realize that leftist truth is a temporary contrivance never meant to last, and to serve a purpose of trickery and manipulation. After you get the gold, and there is no recourse or abilty to correct or return, or recompense, does it matter if the truth is found out?

once a woman is infertile given the advice feminists give, does it matter she realizes the game? of course not… which is why the work on the young, and work on them not to listen to the older people… false truth always has an expiration date

History is the truth… (As betsy validly points out)

Yes lies can be inserted, but over time, they are either corrected, or fall to irrelevance..

the history of the dinosaurs is being discovered..

the truth is concordant, lies are not
and so the more history you know, the more real facts you know, the more wisdom you can glean by knowing which facts to look at, and which to ignore, the easier it is to find the discordant outside the focus of the liar.

Ignorance, false belief, lack of curiosity, lack of skepticism..
are all the friend of the liar and the subversive.

Ask eve… the first victim of neuron-linguistic games…
And a great example of the process of such…

Too bad we forgot the lesson…
But then again, who taught us to temporarily do so for their advantage?

We can go back and point out who lied…
In fact, many times it was a case where the liar thought he got away with it.

Classic example: Lattimore..

Lattimore was attacked for being a spy… he wrote a whiny book, and coined the term McCarthyism… did he ever think that the Russian archives, cpusa archives, smuggled Mitrokhin archives, and telegrams of kgb and gru communication decoded?

Do you think that Ted Kennedy thought the world would know that he betrayed the US colluding with KGB, and that HE approached them? Eventually he cant expend the energy on it… eventually the energy and power will no longer be available to maintain the situation around obama and his birth!

Its temporary at best… and the time needed to pass depends on the followers ability to stop defending the lie they were taught to love, and start waking up to the fact that evil can do good to when it serves evil.

The marvelous thing about truth is that it needs no energy to be preserved…
lies need energy.. [Funny how the universe is constructed that way…]

So even if a regime lies… and they are the winners.
The truth will out… (Another saying)

Sangers history is a lie… whats happening now?

The dems history with the kkk was almost gone… now wahts happening?

Eventually the people who are expending resources to maintain the lie, run out of resources, life, will, or care.

1. Both political parties are composed of high-minded altruists who happen to disagree about what’s best for America. If you agree, please disregard the rest of this comment.

The second sentence indicates that the first sentence was sarcastic.

for betsy:

To understand reality is not the same as to know about outward events.

It is to perceive the essential nature of things.

The best-informed man is not necessarily the wisest.

Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will lose sight of what is essential.

But on the other hand, knowledge of an apparently trivial detail quite often makes it possible to see into the depth of things.

And so the wise man will seek to acquire the best possible knowledge about events, but always without becoming dependent upon this knowledge.

To recognize the significant in the factual is wisdom

“A prison cell, in which one waits, hopes – and is completely dependent on the fact that the door of freedom has to be opened from the outside, is not a bad picture of Advent”

i sit and wait… for all doors are closed to me
(Artfldgr)

“The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world that it leaves to its children.”

for the militant atheists:
“A God who let us prove his existence would be an idol”

“Only he who believes is obedient and only he who is obedient believes.”

“If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction.”
[he is commenting on times like ours, where we have elected the wrong person, and now want to run backwards…]

“Human love has little regard for the truth. It makes the truth relative, since nothing, not even the truth, must come between it and the beloved person.”

In normal life we hardly realize how much more we receive than we give; life can be rich only with such realization. [letters and papers from prison]

The first service that one owes to others in the fellowship consists of listening to them. Just as love of God begins with listening to his word, so the beginning of love for our brothers and sisters is learning to listen to them.

We have learned a bit too late in the day that action springs not from thought but from a readiness for responsibility.

There is no way to peace along the way to safety. For peace must be dared. It is the great venture.

he failed….

WRONG..

read the definition of altruist please and stop making devils into angels carelessly without thought…