Comments on: Support for public service unions: there are pols, and then there are polls https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/ A blog about political change, among other things Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:08:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.1 By: Sergey https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230655 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 16:08:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230655 Mark Steyn is more strightforvard: “That’s what “collective bargaining” is about: It enables unions rather than citizens to set the price of government. It is, thus, a direct assault on republican democracy, and it needs to be destroyed.”

]]> By: Dennis https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230360 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:01:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230360 More like the Mobs and Slobs in action in Wisconsin.

]]> By: Artfldgr https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230342 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:50:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230342 the source of our left and right concepts is the french revolution..
rive droight rive gauche..
river right, river left…

which is why being trendy is gauche and also gauche 🙂
being of the left bank became synonymous..

it was the parrisiene equivalent of
“being on the wrong side of the tracks”

the arguments arodnu it make no real sense here other than we accept it and ignore that.

after all, the US never had an aristocracy..
and protests are not needed since there is a way to change it by other means (but by protesting deny it).

etc…etc… etc…

]]> By: SteveH https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230332 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:20:57 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230332 Think of an automatic payroll deduction from every public union employee to support the tea party union. Can you imagine the liberal heads exploding?

This is exactly the scenario happening right now aimed at non union taxpayers. They simply count on our reverence for the individual to keep us from forming a collective with any passion and resolve. They may be right, because i know an awful lot of decent people that just want to be left alone.

]]> By: Baklava https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230327 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:53:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230327 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PFM36pPRPoo

Thieves in action in Wisconsin.

]]> By: baklava https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230326 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:48:02 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230326 SteveH,

How can I be the thief?

I want to pull money from the union bosses paychecks and members of the Democrat party to start a union.

I’ll call it.

“Democrats for America” (even though I’m not a Democrat).

I’ll do nothing but siphon money to the opposition.

]]> By: SteveH https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230325 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:43:36 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230325 Basically it’s coming down to gangland USA. You either belong to a collective/gang like a union to extort from those less powerful or you’ll be trampled.

The Tea Party will have to morph into a taxpayers union at some point and no doubt will have to be rather ruthless too. These people will not yield until they get a good dose of their own medicine.

]]> By: Sergey https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230317 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:03:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230317 It is amusing how the word “rights” makes fools almost of everybody. Every “right” people are ready to support, never asking whose obligation it will be to pay for this right and if these money are available. I wonder what results the polls would produce, if the question be formulated “Do you support right to work of non-union members?

]]> By: Michael https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230204 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 05:31:11 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230204 baklava

Working my way thru college I had to pay dues to both the USW and UAW. I was not a member as I was considered a probationary employee. And of course summer vacation never lasted long enough to become a member.

No one stood for me and I had none of the “protections” but the company collected dues from me and handed it over to the union.

Them’s the rules.

But you know, these many decades later I am still bitter about that.

]]> By: Parker https://thenewneo.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230201 Wed, 02 Mar 2011 05:14:22 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/03/01/support-for-public-service-unions-there-are-pols-and-then-there-are-polls/#comment-230201 “There is no avant garde, there are only those who have been left behind to sift the ashes of history and preen over their imagined relevance.”

— Parker (circa 1969)

” Every wave is new until it breaks.”

— Neil Young (circa 1979)

“There is no escaping the fact that the fate of the Constitution is in our hands as voters, representatives, and justices. If we allow ourselves to abuse the tradition of higher law making, the very idea that the Constitution can be viewed as the culminating expression of a mobilized citizenry disintegrates. After all, the American Republic is no more eternal than the Roman — and it will come to an end when the American citizens betray their Constitution’s fundamental ideals and aspirations so thoroughly that existing institutions merely parody the public meanings they formerly conveyed.”

— Bruce Ackerman (circa 1990)

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