Comments on: Lara Logan, the press, and the Egyptian street https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/ A blog about political change, among other things Sat, 19 Feb 2011 03:57:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-227113 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 03:57:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-227113 Richard Aubrey: I agree he is no outlier. He seems to be an excellent example of the crusading, earnest, self-righteous, leftist. Everything is interpreted according to the party line in terms of power, oppressor vs. victim groups or classes (not individuals), race, and white vs. brown people.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-227101 Sat, 19 Feb 2011 03:01:29 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-227101 NEO
Yeah. The left is just a bunch of really good guys who are sickened at the unfairness of everything.
In actuality, they are a bunch of vicious. lying, hypocritical, cowardly !@#$%^&* who would screw your pet rock should you be silly enough to let them babysit it.
And feel justified while doing it.
No sympathy, no empathy, no kindness toward those bastards. They would kill you as soon as look at you if they don’t think you’re on their side.
I mean, they’d get somebody else to kill you.
Any questions?
This guy is not an outlier. He just got busted, is all. The others are the same, but slightly more cautious.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-227040 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 23:25:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-227040 Richard Aubrey:

Anderson Cooper’s theory is that Rosen’s hostility was due to envy.

Also, Rosen felt Logan was not with the leftist, anti-US anti-imperialist anti-yada yada yada program.

Here’s Rosen’s latest; read it if you can stomach it. But I’ll help you out by quoting his own explanation, for what it’s worth:

I feel I should explain the point I really was trying to make. Had Logan been a non-white, non-famous journalist, this story would have never made it to the news. Ahmed Mahmoud, an Egyptian journalist, was killed in cold blood and nobody ever heard of him. Dozens of other women were harassed and nobody will ever know their names. Credible accounts indicate that the assaults on women took place largely on the Friday of the victory celebration, when millions of non-demonstrators joined the party. Countless women (Egyptian and foreign, journalists and others) have reported being harassed and assaulted in Tahrir Square that Friday, mostly, it seems, by non-revolutionaries…

Only when pretty white people showed up did Egypt really start to matter, and then, they were preoccupied with the scary Muslim Brotherhood possibly taking over, or what would happen to poor Israel now that there was a “threat” of democracy in Egypt…

I really have been outraged by Logan’s stories in the past, which I feel have defended American imperial adventures that cost the lives of many thousands of people in the Middle East, glorified American special forces even while they were killing innocent Afghans, and praised Gen. Stanley McChrystal, while condemning her own colleague, Michael Hastings, of Rolling Stone (because he hadn’t served his country, she said). My resentment of Logan was because I felt she was a terrible journalist who supported wars that I had covered.

But joking about her assault betrayed the very principles that led me to condemn her in the first place. And her destructive reporting has nothing to do with the crime she suffered, nothing at all.

Et cetera, et cetera, and so forth.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-227027 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 22:41:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-227027 Question is why Rosen was so hostile to Logan.
On, I believe, Ace of Spades, it was explained that Logan had some not-terrible things to say about US soldiers in Iraq and the left keeps score about those who fail to keep to the narrative.
Thus, Logan was on The List for smearing.
Also, CBS and others are accused of trying to spike the story because it makes zero’s policies look bad. Not sure I follow that, but they would if they thought zero needed the help.

]]> By: Casca https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226879 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:52:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226879 Bob from VA, you’re reading my mind. We could make up our collective minds to put the stick to them in a big way. Probably the nearest reality is that the fecklessness of the West backs us into a corner where there is no other option.

]]> By: Dan https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226860 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:25:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226860 The attack on Lara Logan was cowardly and despicable. The whitewash by CBS only less so. Where was their sensitivity when they aired videos of Americans being killed or wounded in Iraq by IEDs and snipers? You can’t turn off the war porno machine just because you don’t like what it shows about a side you favor.

]]> By: Beverly https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226740 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 06:30:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226740 When I was a freshman in college (Vanderbilt), my roommate, a liberal gal from Elizabeth, NJ, and with a Jersey accent that could etch glass, struck up a conversation with a young Paki student named Israr. The very next morning, this fellow, to my shock and outrage, had managed to infiltrate our girls-only dorm, and was sitting at the foot of my roommate’s bed, chattily confiding that he was sure we would be willing to relieve him of his virginity!!!

I mean, WTH? We were trapped beneath our blankets, as we were sleeping in our tee shirts and undies. It was a girls’ dorm, boys Not Allowed (yeah, I’m dating myself).

So this creep went on about how all the Paki males drool over the prospect of coming to America: “We all heard there are many American blondes who wait at the airport for foreign men to arrive so they can have sex with them,” he assured us. “We all think of the day we can come here.” He also said he was 26, and engaged since boyhood to a girl he’d marry when he returned home to Pakistan.

We like to NEVER got him outta there. My idiot roommate thought all this was funny and cute.

Even worse, she ate dinner a week later with Israr’s roommate, Nasir. She hadn’t planned to; she was in the student union and this freak sat next to her and wouldn’t go away. Nasir said he was a gynecologist. He told my roommate that he didn’t wear underwear when he was examining women, so he could better feel his erection. Then, assuming she wanted to have sex with him, he followed her back to her dorm.

The nice young man there, and All-American, football player, redheaded guy with freckles, got in Nasir’s face and ordered him out of the dorm. Politely but firmly.

Hero!

I’ve often said, American women have, by and large, the best men on Earth. 😉

]]> By: Parker https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226639 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:59:37 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226639 Within Islam, female puberty is more frightening than Godzilla and Mothra combined.

]]> By: Bob From Virginia https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226629 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 00:44:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226629 To look at another aspect of the ME, visit the Rubin Report and find out what is going to happen in Egypt and Bahrain. Short version, say goodbye to Egypt and probably Bahrain.

My guess is that the Iraqis will request the US retain its troops in the country and that Barack will refuse thereby assuring that that country will fall under Iraniain hegemony. With a little luck he can lose the whole Middle East by election time.

BTW when I was in Turkey in 1976 the western women who I traveled with all got used to being pinched black and blue by the locals. I was told a western woman in Pakistan would wind up leading an unwanted parade of Pakistani males.

My guess is that the Middle east with digress backward until the oil gives out, then their modern cities will make outstanding ruins.

]]> By: Artfldgr https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226558 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:07:36 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/02/16/lara-logan-the-press-and-the-egyptian-street/#comment-226558 Given the ACTUAL rules they follow as to wearing a viel and what you can or cant do when another doesnt, what happened is not surprising.

if my son asked if we could see aceh in indonesia, my wife and i would have told him no, that was almost the only no we would have given. they follow the more extreme arab versions in that location, and so he and i would be in extra danger (more than we were), and my wife would be in even more, if we did not cover her up.

just cause the american has been raised to ignore other cultures and not care, they think that others do that too…

the whole idea of When in Rome, do as the Romans do is lost on them, as they do what they want to do, and wonder why they have life in prison, getting their hands chopped off, being raped by a gang under sharia/dhimmi law, caned for tossing gum on the street, and on it goes…

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