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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226560</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;IT: do you really think that you are making some sort of point?&lt;/i&gt;

everything he knows about the world, he was told by them, and he never questions his masters...   like a good dog, he will bite the leg of anyone they want him to]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>IT: do you really think that you are making some sort of point?</i></p>
<p>everything he knows about the world, he was told by them, and he never questions his masters&#8230;   like a good dog, he will bite the leg of anyone they want him to</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226222</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Egypt is a walking dead, just as all Arab civilization. Its collapse is inevitable, given population growth and inability to modernize. So the best thing to do, at lest in public, was to keep silence. The only resolution of this crisis is a Malthusian one: war, famine, plague. We will see it before our eyes in several years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egypt is a walking dead, just as all Arab civilization. Its collapse is inevitable, given population growth and inability to modernize. So the best thing to do, at lest in public, was to keep silence. The only resolution of this crisis is a Malthusian one: war, famine, plague. We will see it before our eyes in several years.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Was a good idea.&lt;/b&gt;

The topic is magical word usage by the Left. What does any of that have to do with the Left&#039;s belief that words alone constitute decisive action on the world stage?

&lt;b&gt;Ymarsakar, don’t feed the troll.&lt;/b&gt;

If you want to make that happen, convince Neo to get rid of him. Otherwise, I don&#039;t think you can actually control what umpteen hundreds of commenters at a site like Neo will or will not do.

Logistically it&#039;s not possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Was a good idea.</b></p>
<p>The topic is magical word usage by the Left. What does any of that have to do with the Left&#8217;s belief that words alone constitute decisive action on the world stage?</p>
<p><b>Ymarsakar, don’t feed the troll.</b></p>
<p>If you want to make that happen, convince Neo to get rid of him. Otherwise, I don&#8217;t think you can actually control what umpteen hundreds of commenters at a site like Neo will or will not do.</p>
<p>Logistically it&#8217;s not possible.</p>
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		By: Oblio		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226204</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oblio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good Lord.  Ymarsakar, don&#039;t feed the troll.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Lord.  Ymarsakar, don&#8217;t feed the troll.</p>
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		By: InTheory		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226192</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InTheory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And what might that be.&lt;/i&gt;

You saying Bush saying, 

&lt;i&gt;There are some who feel like that conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is &#039;bring them on&#039;. We have the force necessary to deal with the situation.&lt;/i&gt;

Was a good idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And what might that be.</i></p>
<p>You saying Bush saying, </p>
<p><i>There are some who feel like that conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is &#8216;bring them on&#8217;. We have the force necessary to deal with the situation.</i></p>
<p>Was a good idea.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226183</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;You have openly stated in public what your fellow American conservatives have only allowed themselves to think in the privacy of their bedrooms and think tanks.&lt;/b&gt;

And what might that be.

How strange that you yourself are okay with Obama&#039;s call to war rhetoric, cheap as it is. You are also perfectly fine with Leftists being bigots and racists when it comes to Islam and Muslims. I thought the Left was all about diversity and tolerance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>You have openly stated in public what your fellow American conservatives have only allowed themselves to think in the privacy of their bedrooms and think tanks.</b></p>
<p>And what might that be.</p>
<p>How strange that you yourself are okay with Obama&#8217;s call to war rhetoric, cheap as it is. You are also perfectly fine with Leftists being bigots and racists when it comes to Islam and Muslims. I thought the Left was all about diversity and tolerance.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226182</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jamie ,

Women tend to prefer cooperation through communication while men often prefer the &quot;lead, follow, or get out of the way&quot; doctrine.

However, on the topic of communication, only 20% of the total information passed on between humans is contained in the specific words we use. The other 80% is contained in smell, taste, touch, visual ques, body language, voice tones, and a manifold variety of other things.

Sometimes, to get your point across, you&#039;ll need to limit your use of words.

There are many channels you can consciously make use of should you be able to master the use of body language both in speaking it and interpreting it. A super majority of humans use it unconsciously. Because it is unintentional, a lot of space is left unused in the bandwidth.

**************
Bush told the Iraqis that Saddam had to go. Well Saddam went and dropped, kicked the bucket, got hung.

How did that, eh? It went rather well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie ,</p>
<p>Women tend to prefer cooperation through communication while men often prefer the &#8220;lead, follow, or get out of the way&#8221; doctrine.</p>
<p>However, on the topic of communication, only 20% of the total information passed on between humans is contained in the specific words we use. The other 80% is contained in smell, taste, touch, visual ques, body language, voice tones, and a manifold variety of other things.</p>
<p>Sometimes, to get your point across, you&#8217;ll need to limit your use of words.</p>
<p>There are many channels you can consciously make use of should you be able to master the use of body language both in speaking it and interpreting it. A super majority of humans use it unconsciously. Because it is unintentional, a lot of space is left unused in the bandwidth.</p>
<p>**************<br />
Bush told the Iraqis that Saddam had to go. Well Saddam went and dropped, kicked the bucket, got hung.</p>
<p>How did that, eh? It went rather well.</p>
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		By: InTheory		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226180</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InTheory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Your year must be pretty sad then.&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t sell yourself short, Ymar.

It is quite an achievement.

You have openly stated in public what your fellow American conservatives have only allowed themselves to &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; in the privacy of their bedrooms and think tanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Your year must be pretty sad then.</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t sell yourself short, Ymar.</p>
<p>It is quite an achievement.</p>
<p>You have openly stated in public what your fellow American conservatives have only allowed themselves to <i>think</i> in the privacy of their bedrooms and think tanks.</p>
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		By: Daniel in Brookline		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226179</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel in Brookline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I also think that Pawlenty&#039;s message was on target.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;How many times did the Bush administration admonish the Palestinians not to elect Hamas?

How did that turn out?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not well, as we know.  It&#039;s worth remembering, though, that the United States does not have colonies; we should not be in the business of telling other countries how to run themselves.  (The notable exception, of course, is after wartime.  We rebuilt the Iraqis government for them, as we&#039;d done previously for Germany, Japan, and others.)

On the other hand, the United States gets to decide who its friends are, and how to maintain that friendship.  The United States would have been perfectly justified, after the Hamas electoral victory, to deny financial aid to them.

And similarly, using Pawlenty&#039;s approach, I think it would have been quite proper for President Obama to say to the Egyptian people: &quot;We supported Mr. Mubarak for many years because he helped our allies.  If he is no longer your choice for leader, we wish you well with your new path.  But please understand that the United States remains committed to promoting democracy and freedom for all.  We would welcome a democratically-elected Egyptian government, and would do our best to help as appropriate.  We are concerned about a takeover by the Egyptian military, and do not intend to support a military dictatorship.  And we are very concerned about the prospect of an Egypt controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.  If that is the new Egypt you choose, you will have to do so with no help from us.&quot;

respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think that Pawlenty&#8217;s message was on target.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>How many times did the Bush administration admonish the Palestinians not to elect Hamas?</p>
<p>How did that turn out?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Not well, as we know.  It&#8217;s worth remembering, though, that the United States does not have colonies; we should not be in the business of telling other countries how to run themselves.  (The notable exception, of course, is after wartime.  We rebuilt the Iraqis government for them, as we&#8217;d done previously for Germany, Japan, and others.)</p>
<p>On the other hand, the United States gets to decide who its friends are, and how to maintain that friendship.  The United States would have been perfectly justified, after the Hamas electoral victory, to deny financial aid to them.</p>
<p>And similarly, using Pawlenty&#8217;s approach, I think it would have been quite proper for President Obama to say to the Egyptian people: &#8220;We supported Mr. Mubarak for many years because he helped our allies.  If he is no longer your choice for leader, we wish you well with your new path.  But please understand that the United States remains committed to promoting democracy and freedom for all.  We would welcome a democratically-elected Egyptian government, and would do our best to help as appropriate.  We are concerned about a takeover by the Egyptian military, and do not intend to support a military dictatorship.  And we are very concerned about the prospect of an Egypt controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood.  If that is the new Egypt you choose, you will have to do so with no help from us.&#8221;</p>
<p>respectfully,<br />
Daniel in Brookline</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/15/pawlenty-on-egypt/#comment-226172</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.  Qutb was all for substituting man&#039;s servitude to Allah--for that, after all, is what the word &quot;Islam&quot; means i.e. being the &quot;slave of Allah,&quot; hence the common Muslim name Abdullah  &quot;abd&quot; being the Arabic word for &quot;slave&quot; --for &quot;man&#039;s servitude to man,&quot; which is what Qutb called man-made governments and laws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  Qutb was all for substituting man&#8217;s servitude to Allah&#8211;for that, after all, is what the word &#8220;Islam&#8221; means i.e. being the &#8220;slave of Allah,&#8221; hence the common Muslim name Abdullah  &#8220;abd&#8221; being the Arabic word for &#8220;slave&#8221; &#8211;for &#8220;man&#8217;s servitude to man,&#8221; which is what Qutb called man-made governments and laws.</p>
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