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		By: LAG		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/10/obama-was-warned-about-egypt/#comment-224717</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LAG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, neo, I offered that last comment partly in jest. 

It seems pretty clear to me Obama expected his reset and make-nice apology tours to remove foreign policy concerns from the table. I think his principal expectation from the rest of the world was that they would welcome him whenever he chose to make a vacation stop.

As I recall Democratic criticisms of the Bush administration, it seems to me that it wasn&#039;t just that his actions embroiled the US in actions of which they disapproved. That aspect was compounded by diversion of resources better employed at home. 

It seemed inevitable to me that winding down the wars would free up a pot of money in the DOD. I see nothing much to persuade me that not the case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, neo, I offered that last comment partly in jest. </p>
<p>It seems pretty clear to me Obama expected his reset and make-nice apology tours to remove foreign policy concerns from the table. I think his principal expectation from the rest of the world was that they would welcome him whenever he chose to make a vacation stop.</p>
<p>As I recall Democratic criticisms of the Bush administration, it seems to me that it wasn&#8217;t just that his actions embroiled the US in actions of which they disapproved. That aspect was compounded by diversion of resources better employed at home. </p>
<p>It seemed inevitable to me that winding down the wars would free up a pot of money in the DOD. I see nothing much to persuade me that not the case.</p>
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		By: LAG		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/10/obama-was-warned-about-egypt/#comment-224712</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo, you&#039;re right, of course. NOW I remember the reset button. Wasn&#039;t that his second priority right after jobs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo, you&#8217;re right, of course. NOW I remember the reset button. Wasn&#8217;t that his second priority right after jobs?</p>
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		By: camojack		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/10/obama-was-warned-about-egypt/#comment-224607</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[camojack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 06:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good thing I visited in November, &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; the revolution... :-(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing I visited in November, <i>before</i> the revolution&#8230; 🙁</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/10/obama-was-warned-about-egypt/#comment-224514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 01:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LAG: But in Obama&#039;s case it wouldn&#039;t be an irony.  He was &lt;i&gt;eager&lt;/i&gt; to deal with foreign affairs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAG: But in Obama&#8217;s case it wouldn&#8217;t be an irony.  He was <i>eager</i> to deal with foreign affairs.</p>
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		By: LAG		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/10/obama-was-warned-about-egypt/#comment-224508</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 01:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reading the article reminded me of a quote by Woodrow Wilson. Before his inauguration, Woodrow Wilson said, &quot;It would be the irony of fate if my administration had to deal chiefly with foreign affairs.&quot; This may be Obama&#039;s fate, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the article reminded me of a quote by Woodrow Wilson. Before his inauguration, Woodrow Wilson said, &#8220;It would be the irony of fate if my administration had to deal chiefly with foreign affairs.&#8221; This may be Obama&#8217;s fate, too.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the link: &quot;The letter attacked the administration&#039;s mind-set: &quot;The choice is not between a stable and predictable but undemocratic Egypt on the one hand, and dangerous instability and extremism on the other. There is now an opportunity to support gradual, responsible democratic reform.&quot; 

Nonsense. Of course that&#039;s the choice we face because that&#039;s the nature of Egyptian society. 

This is a Muslim majority, middle eastern country, not Czechoslovakia. 

The majority of Egyptians don&#039;t want a democracy that recognizes minority rights. Not when 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for Muslims who commit apostasy. Islam is a tribal/moral arrangement, one that denies that non-Muslims have any rights at all. 

If the army agrees to allow the MB participation in elections, the Muslim Brotherhood&#039;s fanaticism has to eventually win. &quot;in a fight, it&#039;s not the size of the dog that counts, it&#039;s the amount of fight in the dog&quot;...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the link: &#8220;The letter attacked the administration&#8217;s mind-set: &#8220;The choice is not between a stable and predictable but undemocratic Egypt on the one hand, and dangerous instability and extremism on the other. There is now an opportunity to support gradual, responsible democratic reform.&#8221; </p>
<p>Nonsense. Of course that&#8217;s the choice we face because that&#8217;s the nature of Egyptian society. </p>
<p>This is a Muslim majority, middle eastern country, not Czechoslovakia. </p>
<p>The majority of Egyptians don&#8217;t want a democracy that recognizes minority rights. Not when 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for Muslims who commit apostasy. Islam is a tribal/moral arrangement, one that denies that non-Muslims have any rights at all. </p>
<p>If the army agrees to allow the MB participation in elections, the Muslim Brotherhood&#8217;s fanaticism has to eventually win. &#8220;in a fight, it&#8217;s not the size of the dog that counts, it&#8217;s the amount of fight in the dog&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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