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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-222110</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Big O learned everything he knows about the Constitution from the back of a Wheaties box.

The man said, in a radio panel discussion, &quot;I think we can say that the Constitution reflected an enormous blind spot in this culture that carries on until this day, and that the Framers had that same blind spot.&quot;

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/obama-constitution/2008/10/27/id/326165

Well, he was probably studying in the madrassa when US history was taught in eighth grade.  But really, you don&#039;t really have to know anything about the Constitution these days.  After all, wasn&#039;t he elected president of all 57 states anyway?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Big O learned everything he knows about the Constitution from the back of a Wheaties box.</p>
<p>The man said, in a radio panel discussion, &#8220;I think we can say that the Constitution reflected an enormous blind spot in this culture that carries on until this day, and that the Framers had that same blind spot.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/obama-constitution/2008/10/27/id/326165" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/obama-constitution/2008/10/27/id/326165</a></p>
<p>Well, he was probably studying in the madrassa when US history was taught in eighth grade.  But really, you don&#8217;t really have to know anything about the Constitution these days.  After all, wasn&#8217;t he elected president of all 57 states anyway?</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-221922</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting, yes!
Kinda like teaching American history using only H. Zinn. However, these were law school lectures at an elite school.
I swore at, and swore off, actually reading the NYT 20yrs ago, save for scanning the heads, reading the obits. Thanks for doing it, Neo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, yes!<br />
Kinda like teaching American history using only H. Zinn. However, these were law school lectures at an elite school.<br />
I swore at, and swore off, actually reading the NYT 20yrs ago, save for scanning the heads, reading the obits. Thanks for doing it, Neo.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-221905</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom: &lt;a href=&quot;http://sweetness-light.com/archive/so-what-did-obama-teach-in-law-school&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is what he taught:

&lt;blockquote&gt;At the school, Mr. Obama taught three courses, ascending to senior lecturer, a title otherwise carried only by a few federal judges. His most traditional course was in the due process and equal protection areas of constitutional law. His voting rights class traced the evolution of election law, from the disenfranchisement of blacks to contemporary debates over districting and campaign finance. Mr. Obama was so interested in the subject that he helped Richard Pildes, a professor at New York University, develop a leading casebook in the field.

His most original course, a historical and political seminar as much as a legal one, was on racism and law. Mr. Obama improvised his own textbook, including classic cases like Brown v. Board of Education, and essays by Frederick Douglass, W. E. B. Dubois, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, as well as conservative thinkers like Robert H. Bork.

Mr. Obama was especially eager for his charges to understand the horrors of the past, students say. He assigned a 1919 catalog of lynching victims, including some who were first raped or stripped of their ears and fingers, others who were pregnant or lynched with their children, and some whose charred bodies were sold off, bone fragment by bone fragment, to gawkers… &lt;/blockquote&gt;

One of these days I&#039;ll write that post.  My conclusion is that Obama&#039;s entire law school teaching career was predominantly concerned with race as well as election law.  Interesting, no?

And by the way, that&#039;s quoting an article that appeared in the &lt;i&gt;NY Times&lt;/i&gt; in July of 2008.  So it was known.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom: <a href="http://sweetness-light.com/archive/so-what-did-obama-teach-in-law-school" rel="nofollow">This</a> is what he taught:</p>
<blockquote><p>At the school, Mr. Obama taught three courses, ascending to senior lecturer, a title otherwise carried only by a few federal judges. His most traditional course was in the due process and equal protection areas of constitutional law. His voting rights class traced the evolution of election law, from the disenfranchisement of blacks to contemporary debates over districting and campaign finance. Mr. Obama was so interested in the subject that he helped Richard Pildes, a professor at New York University, develop a leading casebook in the field.</p>
<p>His most original course, a historical and political seminar as much as a legal one, was on racism and law. Mr. Obama improvised his own textbook, including classic cases like Brown v. Board of Education, and essays by Frederick Douglass, W. E. B. Dubois, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, as well as conservative thinkers like Robert H. Bork.</p>
<p>Mr. Obama was especially eager for his charges to understand the horrors of the past, students say. He assigned a 1919 catalog of lynching victims, including some who were first raped or stripped of their ears and fingers, others who were pregnant or lynched with their children, and some whose charred bodies were sold off, bone fragment by bone fragment, to gawkers… </p></blockquote>
<p>One of these days I&#8217;ll write that post.  My conclusion is that Obama&#8217;s entire law school teaching career was predominantly concerned with race as well as election law.  Interesting, no?</p>
<p>And by the way, that&#8217;s quoting an article that appeared in the <i>NY Times</i> in July of 2008.  So it was known.  </p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-221894</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 18:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did he actually teach a whole course on equal protection? As in, once a week for a semester? or did he just give a couple of lectures?
This falls under the &quot;Questions that should&#039;ve been asked/answered then&quot; category.
Not that it would&#039;ve altered the Narrative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he actually teach a whole course on equal protection? As in, once a week for a semester? or did he just give a couple of lectures?<br />
This falls under the &#8220;Questions that should&#8217;ve been asked/answered then&#8221; category.<br />
Not that it would&#8217;ve altered the Narrative.</p>
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		By: IgotBupkis		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-221834</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IgotBupkis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 11:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[----------------

&lt;a href=&quot;http://maxedoutmama.blogspot.com/2011/01/vinson-on-individual-mandate.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MoM has a summary worth reading, too.&lt;/a&gt;

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&#062; &lt;i&gt;I have no idea how well-versed he is in other areas of con law. &lt;/i&gt;

I think The Big 0 is much more of an expert at the con, than he is at con law.]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://maxedoutmama.blogspot.com/2011/01/vinson-on-individual-mandate.html" rel="nofollow">MoM has a summary worth reading, too.</a></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>&gt; <i>I have no idea how well-versed he is in other areas of con law. </i></p>
<p>I think The Big 0 is much more of an expert at the con, than he is at con law.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-221757</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 05:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom: I once did research for a post I never finished or published, on the subject of Obama&#039;s con law teaching background.  All of the courses he taught at the U of Chicago were in the area of equal protection law, especially race, rather than general con law.  I have no idea how well-versed he is in other areas of con law.   This case would come under the rubric of other areas of con law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom: I once did research for a post I never finished or published, on the subject of Obama&#8217;s con law teaching background.  All of the courses he taught at the U of Chicago were in the area of equal protection law, especially race, rather than general con law.  I have no idea how well-versed he is in other areas of con law.   This case would come under the rubric of other areas of con law.</p>
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		By: ELC		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-221749</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the video: &quot;So you think people are too stupid to make their own choices, unless they work for the government, in which case they are brilliant enough to make choices for everyone?&quot;

Ronald Reagan identified that as liberalism&#039;s overarching hubris more than four decades ago:

&quot;This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.&quot;

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/timechoosing.html

&quot;If no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else?&quot;

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/govspeech/01051967a.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the video: &#8220;So you think people are too stupid to make their own choices, unless they work for the government, in which case they are brilliant enough to make choices for everyone?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ronald Reagan identified that as liberalism&#8217;s overarching hubris more than four decades ago:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/timechoosing.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/reference/timechoosing.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;If no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/govspeech/01051967a.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/govspeech/01051967a.htm</a></p>
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		By: ELC		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-221747</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ELC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: ELC		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-221745</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ELC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just got done reading the decision. It&#039;s a good read that I would recommend to anybody for a thorough discussion of the issues, historical, legal, and logical.

http://www.heartland.org/custom/semod_policybot/pdf/29270.pdf

I&#039;ll just note that, tactically, it was better for the first two rulings to have been in the affirmative, because that allowed Judge Vinson to explain why there were wrong. :) Also, he cites Judge Hudson&#039;s decision with praise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got done reading the decision. It&#8217;s a good read that I would recommend to anybody for a thorough discussion of the issues, historical, legal, and logical.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heartland.org/custom/semod_policybot/pdf/29270.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.heartland.org/custom/semod_policybot/pdf/29270.pdf</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just note that, tactically, it was better for the first two rulings to have been in the affirmative, because that allowed Judge Vinson to explain why there were wrong. 🙂 Also, he cites Judge Hudson&#8217;s decision with praise.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/02/01/judge-vinsons-hcr-ruling/#comment-221737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure anyone else on a worthy-of-credibility list ever said he was good at it either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure anyone else on a worthy-of-credibility list ever said he was good at it either.</p>
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