Eventually, I got joint custody.
However, a week later, she took the kid and disappeared
She ended up in another state, made claims, and so on
We managed to bribe her so my parents could be a part of his life

A few years later, she decided to take my son, her two new kids by another man who was out working (trucker), and decided to rob a bank. She got caught, my son was in jail almost overnight too embarrassed to call his grandparents. I had joint custody, but had no rights and was half a continent away where he grew up originally.

She got 2.5 years in club fed. Despite having joint custody, I couldn’t get custody. (seems the local games were trying to use her kids to justify why she should serve time). her mom died while she was in prison, my son moved out to live with his grandparents. I ended up paying child support twice. Once to the prison lady and once to my parents, and any other money I could help with. if I didn’t give the other money, she was going to go to court and destabilize the kids life again for personal gain.

Just to put icing on it, the 8A program at SBA said that they only help women and minorities., they give extra money, guarantee the loans, free office equipment, payroll tax reductions, discounts on energy, mentorships, free courses, etc.. so no bank would help since I was a white male, the only group who was an oppressor group and not allowed help!!! D

on’t worry, they got me in school too, they stopped scholarships for the men so that more women could get degrees.

And now they are ruining my sons life (but he doesn’t know it yet). The NIH is offering extra money to researchers if they drop a white man, and get a woman or minority on their team to do research. So basically, they don’t hire him, they get a 90k bonus for research.

ALL of this is feminists in cahoots with progressives and statists

While the common women refuse to believe it, refuse to be compassionate to their mates, and on and on. That is, the ONLY choice the men have is to consider these women unworthy of the pledge of marriage.

See “marriage strike”

there are LOTS of wonderful women out there. but your chances of finding one are slim to none in liberated land…

making women unmarryable is a great way to get everyone to mix up, and end the western society (a stated goal).

after all, if the men mix, and the women are barren, the demographic end is unavoidable.

we are almost to that point now (Russia is, and we copied them 40 years after they did it!)

ultimately the one child smart women will be overtaken by the 5 kids no college women… [and the elite like pelosi who has 5 kids…]

the smart women lines will be poisoned genetically by their penchant for late birth (high rates of genetic problems and downs syndrome)…

did i say WOMEN or the poltical ideology feminism

does feminism = women?

you proved my point…

and its NOT so far out of the norm.

after all, when a woman disappears, who do all the crime shows say is most likely to be the criminal?

so if she does it on purpose, she knows what? that they are going to go after the male mate.

duh.

and for a lawyer making judgments by not reading, and not being able to read long texts, is a farce.

the point was it was so out of the norm because i was forbidden to bring up anything that disparages the woman in court. so i couldnt bring up her shoplifting (which i didnt know about). her falsyfying records. writing bumb checks.

how about the fact that her feminist state welfare agent employee freind planned it all!!!

the MAIN point being that if the court was NOT messed up, NONE of that could have ever happened!!!!

i was assumed guilty, not innocent
i was TOLD by a family court judge i had no rights
my lawyer was a supreme court 9th circuit judge when they held court out of legal venue.

its convenient that you say that the outocme of the court was caused by the man…

but he cant quit work and stay with the kids. she would divorce him and the court woudl force him to work or go to jail (how many womn go to jail for non pahyment?)

if she was abusive, there are zero shelters he can go to, and the court will take the kids sayign he kidnapped them

AFTER the woman did all this, she popped in and the state handed the kid over to her! why?

turns out that you have all the nice neat answers to make reality go away.

funny thing that if a person under an extreme situat6ion has no rights or can do anything.
what do you think is possible for those not in extreme situations? nothing.

by the way..

want to know my crime in all this?

NOTHING…

she was never struck
she was always supported and i paid fort the feminist courses that informed her and introduced her to antoher feminist who taught her she could work the system to slam me and take all i have. but first, they had to force me into bankruptcy, that way i would have no bills and the courts would take more than the 17% minimum!!!!

it was all planned and the courts helped with hundreds of do gooders, and such.

[edited for length by n-n. I’ve been a bit remiss in the last couple of days about the length thing, because I’ve been mega-busy.]

Are you getting me mixed up with Art? I never said a thing about Judge being lawyers or whatever brought n your paragraph long response there.

I also don’t understand why you are talking about incompetent lawyers, feminist lawyers, or men “firing” them when all I mentioned was that some men are forced to hire a lawyer for their wives and as a result, some don’t have the money to get representation themselves. Obviously there are poor men who can’t afford but one lawyer and if that lawyer goes to their wife via court order, they are SOL, just as obviously a wealthy man never has to worry about legal representation. I certainly never mentioned a thing about lawyers sabotaging men’s cases being a major problem, or any problem – I didn’t mention it at all.

No wonder I make “little sense” if you attribute to me things I never typed and arguments I never made. What I’d really like to know is how you’d reform family law, and what you would do to make family formation easier, and get men re involved in kids lives. If you would?

I think what happened is that Art’s comments are so long they caused your head to spin and you got us confused.

Brad, just a couple of things. If a man, for some reason, was silly enough or misinformed enough to hire a lawyer who was such a sneaky feminist that s/he’d pretend to represent a man while actually sabotaging his case, why on earth wouldn’t he just fire her (or him) and hire somebody decent? As for whether there are evil feminist lawyers out there who are so dastardly clever that they manage to make their own clients lose while making it look like they’re trying to win and hiding their real goal, not just from the clients but from the opposing counsel, the judge, and the professional misconduct commission — well, it’s way too far down the loony tunes conspiracy path for me to try to follow with any kind of logic or reasonable argument.

Now, about the difference between lawyers and judges. Yes, of course most judges used to be lawyers — all of them, in most places. They both need legal training, they both work with the law. However, their roles are radically different and if you truly don’t understand this, you certainly should not be lecturing others about how little they know about the courts. The lawyer is an advocate whose ethical obligation is to zealously represent the interest of his or her client. The judge is a decision-maker whose ethical obligation is to be impartial and apply the law as fairly and accurately as possible. Are there some biased judges who fail in this undertaking? Of course. Does that mean most of them fail? Of course not — no more than the fact that some men abuse their wives or rape women means that most of them or all of them are abusers or rapists, or the fact that some women cheat on their husbands, manipulate the system, or abuse their husbands, for that matter, means that they all do — art’s views notwithstanding.

And as for arguing with me being like talking to a wall — I take pride in that attribute when the person who’s arguing with me makes as little sense as you do!

When I saw the left celebrating Planned Parenthood’s supposed thwarting of an O’Keefe style sting operation last Thursday I knew there would absolutely be some videos coming that showed the exact opposite was true. Well, what do you know, I was absolutely right.

blog.eyeblast.tv/2011/02/lefts-celebration-of-planned-parenthoods-ethics-blows-up-in-their-face/

take some time to look at her writing, she lays out the truth from the early days as she was a part of it. from the marxist bull dykes who took over her organization, to others we have forgotten like rote zora from feminisms marxist anarchist terrorist roots.

Feminism – 3/6 – Origins of Feminism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4rj6JjnIdU

Feminism – 4/6 – Origins of Feminism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNfr5UE195g

Feminism – 5/6 – Winners of Feminism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9BB30J5Eao

Feminism – 6/6 – Winners of Feminism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLbuWiUABVA

Neo, yep, but with enormously more clout than Cosby. Think how Obama is revered in the black community. It could have worked.