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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/25/sotu-obama-the-centrist/#comment-219666</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[rickl: I loved that program.  Loved it.

Come to think of it, that program started only a year or two after Sputnik (&lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/25/settle-in-for-the-sotu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see addendum II here&lt;/a&gt;).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rickl: I loved that program.  Loved it.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, that program started only a year or two after Sputnik (<a href="http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/25/settle-in-for-the-sotu/" rel="nofollow">see addendum II here</a>).</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/25/sotu-obama-the-centrist/#comment-219664</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I watched &quot;One for the Angels&quot; starring Ed Wynn, and &quot;Mr. Denton on Doomsday&quot; starring Dan Duryea.  I&#039;m in the middle of cooking dinner now, and while I&#039;m eating it, I&#039;ll watch &quot;The Sixteen Millimeter Shrine&quot; starring Ida Lupino.

Those are all episodes from the first season.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched &#8220;One for the Angels&#8221; starring Ed Wynn, and &#8220;Mr. Denton on Doomsday&#8221; starring Dan Duryea.  I&#8217;m in the middle of cooking dinner now, and while I&#8217;m eating it, I&#8217;ll watch &#8220;The Sixteen Millimeter Shrine&#8221; starring Ida Lupino.</p>
<p>Those are all episodes from the first season.</p>
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		By: Parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/25/sotu-obama-the-centrist/#comment-219645</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m 63 years old.  I&#039;m old enough to have heard and comprehended SOTU speeches from JFK onwards.  Its almost always a basket of bull excrement at best. LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Jimmy Peanut, Bush the 1st, and Clinton gave us nothing but worthless platitudes.  Smoke and mirrors as usual. Placebos and kool-aid, with never even the merest whiff of a cure for what truly ails our nation.

Obama is no different, in fact he&#039;s the worst in my lifetime.  What good comes from listening to his blathering nonsense?  What good comes from listening to his platitudes? What good comes from listening to his rhetoric and lies?  All he does is confirm the disconnect between the elitists and the reality we the people live in our daily lives.

 IMO, only Reagan&#039;s SOTUs &#038; GWB&#039;s SOTU January, 2002 have been worth listening to. (GWB&#039;s SOTU after 02 were also just a waste of oxygen IMO.)

We have to cease looking to DC for directions.  The way forward is what we do in our local communities.  The way forward is taking power back to our own communities.  We, locally, decide how to educate our children &#038; grandchildren.  We decide who is worthy of our charity and who is not.  I don&#039;t trust DC to make the right decisions.  I live in Iowa &#038; I don&#039;t trust Des Moines. The government that governs least governs best. Get your hands out of my pocket!  

&quot;I&#039;m the one who has to die when its my time to die. So let me live my life the way I want to.&quot; -- Jimi Hendrix.

&quot;Back off!&quot; -- Yosemite Sam

&quot;I am what I am and thats all that I am.&quot; -- Popeye

BTW, I&#039;m not interested in what my country can do for me. I&#039;m interested in what I can do for myself, my family, my friends, and my community.  I don&#039;t need DC or Des Moines telling me how best spend  my money.

Diatribe ended, pardon my rant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 63 years old.  I&#8217;m old enough to have heard and comprehended SOTU speeches from JFK onwards.  Its almost always a basket of bull excrement at best. LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Jimmy Peanut, Bush the 1st, and Clinton gave us nothing but worthless platitudes.  Smoke and mirrors as usual. Placebos and kool-aid, with never even the merest whiff of a cure for what truly ails our nation.</p>
<p>Obama is no different, in fact he&#8217;s the worst in my lifetime.  What good comes from listening to his blathering nonsense?  What good comes from listening to his platitudes? What good comes from listening to his rhetoric and lies?  All he does is confirm the disconnect between the elitists and the reality we the people live in our daily lives.</p>
<p> IMO, only Reagan&#8217;s SOTUs &amp; GWB&#8217;s SOTU January, 2002 have been worth listening to. (GWB&#8217;s SOTU after 02 were also just a waste of oxygen IMO.)</p>
<p>We have to cease looking to DC for directions.  The way forward is what we do in our local communities.  The way forward is taking power back to our own communities.  We, locally, decide how to educate our children &amp; grandchildren.  We decide who is worthy of our charity and who is not.  I don&#8217;t trust DC to make the right decisions.  I live in Iowa &amp; I don&#8217;t trust Des Moines. The government that governs least governs best. Get your hands out of my pocket!  </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m the one who has to die when its my time to die. So let me live my life the way I want to.&#8221; &#8212; Jimi Hendrix.</p>
<p>&#8220;Back off!&#8221; &#8212; Yosemite Sam</p>
<p>&#8220;I am what I am and thats all that I am.&#8221; &#8212; Popeye</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m not interested in what my country can do for me. I&#8217;m interested in what I can do for myself, my family, my friends, and my community.  I don&#8217;t need DC or Des Moines telling me how best spend  my money.</p>
<p>Diatribe ended, pardon my rant.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/25/sotu-obama-the-centrist/#comment-219611</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m listening to Mark Levin right now. He just said he got an advance copy of the text, and you&#039;d better be prepared to stay up late if you want to watch it. Apparently it&#039;s unbelievably long.

Leftists tend to make very long speeches. Castro in notorious for speaking for several hours at a time.

Hmm. I wonder if Obama is deliberately making it as long as possible so that most people will tune out before Ryan comes on.

I&#039;m not concerned. I just bought the &quot;Complete Definitive Collection&quot; of &lt;i&gt;Twilight Zone.&lt;/i&gt; A 28-DVD box set, with every episode of all five seasons. Granted, I&#039;ve seen just about all of them on TV over the years (multiple times), but these are digital transfers from the original film negatives. When I watch them on my computer monitor, it&#039;s like seeing them in high definition. It &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; high-definition. It&#039;s way better than the original audience saw them on their 1959 black-and-white TV sets.

To make a long story short, I have no intention of subjecting myself to Obama&#039;s narcissistic, lying blather.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m listening to Mark Levin right now. He just said he got an advance copy of the text, and you&#8217;d better be prepared to stay up late if you want to watch it. Apparently it&#8217;s unbelievably long.</p>
<p>Leftists tend to make very long speeches. Castro in notorious for speaking for several hours at a time.</p>
<p>Hmm. I wonder if Obama is deliberately making it as long as possible so that most people will tune out before Ryan comes on.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not concerned. I just bought the &#8220;Complete Definitive Collection&#8221; of <i>Twilight Zone.</i> A 28-DVD box set, with every episode of all five seasons. Granted, I&#8217;ve seen just about all of them on TV over the years (multiple times), but these are digital transfers from the original film negatives. When I watch them on my computer monitor, it&#8217;s like seeing them in high definition. It <i>is</i> high-definition. It&#8217;s way better than the original audience saw them on their 1959 black-and-white TV sets.</p>
<p>To make a long story short, I have no intention of subjecting myself to Obama&#8217;s narcissistic, lying blather.</p>
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		By: Brad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another interesting perspective for those who comment here to consider:

A warning and a quote.
The warning is there is some (though not every other word) not nice language for those of you who might be easily offended by such things.
The quote:
    &quot;There are many myths within the political blogosphere, but none is so deeply troubling or so highly treasured by mainstream political bloggers than this: that the political blogosphere contains within it the whole range of respectable political opinion, and that once an issue has been thoroughly debated therein, it has had a full and fair hearing. The truth is that almost anything resembling an actual left wing has been systematically written out of the conversation within the political blogosphere, both intentionally and not, while those writing within it congratulate themselves for having answered all left-wing criticism.

The post lead me to my own equally radical realization — he’s right.

Before the usual suspects start spluttering, “ARE YOU NUTS OBAMMUNIST DEATH PANELS PALIN/BACHMANN 2012!!!”, let me qualify that statement. It is socialism specifically that is dead. All of the other various hobbyhorses of the left — gay rights, multiculturalism, feminism — they’re alive and kicking. But economic Marxism, the historic core of the Western left-wing, is as dead as Marx himself. The only people who take it seriously anymore are high-IQ cranks like Robert Lindsay and recalcitrant old hippies like Alexander Cockburn. Most so-called leftists and liberals spout a softer version of neoliberal capitalism, and even supposedly socialist states like Sweden are functionally capitalist, albeit with more robust welfare states.

There’s a reason for this — economic leftism was totally discredited by the collapse of the Soviet Union twenty years ago...&quot;

http://www.inmalafide.com/2011/01/24/the-rise-of-generation-zero-part-2-jenseits-von-links-und-rechts/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting perspective for those who comment here to consider:</p>
<p>A warning and a quote.<br />
The warning is there is some (though not every other word) not nice language for those of you who might be easily offended by such things.<br />
The quote:<br />
    &#8220;There are many myths within the political blogosphere, but none is so deeply troubling or so highly treasured by mainstream political bloggers than this: that the political blogosphere contains within it the whole range of respectable political opinion, and that once an issue has been thoroughly debated therein, it has had a full and fair hearing. The truth is that almost anything resembling an actual left wing has been systematically written out of the conversation within the political blogosphere, both intentionally and not, while those writing within it congratulate themselves for having answered all left-wing criticism.</p>
<p>The post lead me to my own equally radical realization — he’s right.</p>
<p>Before the usual suspects start spluttering, “ARE YOU NUTS OBAMMUNIST DEATH PANELS PALIN/BACHMANN 2012!!!”, let me qualify that statement. It is socialism specifically that is dead. All of the other various hobbyhorses of the left — gay rights, multiculturalism, feminism — they’re alive and kicking. But economic Marxism, the historic core of the Western left-wing, is as dead as Marx himself. The only people who take it seriously anymore are high-IQ cranks like Robert Lindsay and recalcitrant old hippies like Alexander Cockburn. Most so-called leftists and liberals spout a softer version of neoliberal capitalism, and even supposedly socialist states like Sweden are functionally capitalist, albeit with more robust welfare states.</p>
<p>There’s a reason for this — economic leftism was totally discredited by the collapse of the Soviet Union twenty years ago&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inmalafide.com/2011/01/24/the-rise-of-generation-zero-part-2-jenseits-von-links-und-rechts/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.inmalafide.com/2011/01/24/the-rise-of-generation-zero-part-2-jenseits-von-links-und-rechts/</a></p>
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		By: Brad		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/25/sotu-obama-the-centrist/#comment-219605</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parker:

I&#039;m going to compare Obama&#039;s SOTU speech between you prediction and that of Talkleft:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2011/1/25/13310/2116

They&#039;ve been right before repeatedly in the past, and I&#039;m willing to bet they will be right this time as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parker:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to compare Obama&#8217;s SOTU speech between you prediction and that of Talkleft:<br />
<a href="http://www.talkleft.com/story/2011/1/25/13310/2116" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.talkleft.com/story/2011/1/25/13310/2116</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve been right before repeatedly in the past, and I&#8217;m willing to bet they will be right this time as well.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you look hard enough, behind the new crony capitalism is a Nazi, under the &quot;what we learned from Tuscon&quot; is a Nazi, and everywhere and anywhere, you guessed it . . . a Nazi! 

Nazis to the left of me, Nazis to the right. And here I am stuck in the middle with you. Nazi. 

I propose, for one evening, every conservative commentator accuse Obama of being a Nazi. No reason. And hey, it just might work. After all, isn&#039;t that what&#039;s important? Results. 

Who cares if a couple liberals get trashed on the way. No one will remember. No one will care!

We&#039;ll coordinate this with a website called Nazilist. If everybody says it, it must be true. It won&#039;t matter if the Nazilist becomes known, or if the charges aren&#039;t true. What matters is our right to hope and change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look hard enough, behind the new crony capitalism is a Nazi, under the &#8220;what we learned from Tuscon&#8221; is a Nazi, and everywhere and anywhere, you guessed it . . . a Nazi! </p>
<p>Nazis to the left of me, Nazis to the right. And here I am stuck in the middle with you. Nazi. </p>
<p>I propose, for one evening, every conservative commentator accuse Obama of being a Nazi. No reason. And hey, it just might work. After all, isn&#8217;t that what&#8217;s important? Results. </p>
<p>Who cares if a couple liberals get trashed on the way. No one will remember. No one will care!</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll coordinate this with a website called Nazilist. If everybody says it, it must be true. It won&#8217;t matter if the Nazilist becomes known, or if the charges aren&#8217;t true. What matters is our right to hope and change.</p>
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		By: Parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sears Poncho:

There were a few things I liked about GWB and many things I didn&#039;t like.  He was not a fiscal conservative by a long shot. You are right, he never lifted his hand to veto the outrageous budgets loaded with lard that came to his desk.  Like his father, he was all too willing to expand the reach of DC.

AND, lets not forget the horrible &#039;no child left behind&#039; initiative that GWB and Teddy drown a bimbo Kennedy created.  That said, I&#039;d take 20 years of GWB over 2 years of BHO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sears Poncho:</p>
<p>There were a few things I liked about GWB and many things I didn&#8217;t like.  He was not a fiscal conservative by a long shot. You are right, he never lifted his hand to veto the outrageous budgets loaded with lard that came to his desk.  Like his father, he was all too willing to expand the reach of DC.</p>
<p>AND, lets not forget the horrible &#8216;no child left behind&#8217; initiative that GWB and Teddy drown a bimbo Kennedy created.  That said, I&#8217;d take 20 years of GWB over 2 years of BHO.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;Strange, Bush 43 never tacked hard right.&quot;&quot;

 Hard right nowadays is a balanced budget.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Strange, Bush 43 never tacked hard right.&#8221;&#8221;</p>
<p> Hard right nowadays is a balanced budget.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reference to Phoenix Woman above, I&#039;m trying to recall this &quot;hard right&quot; Bush.  When it came to spending, I don&#039;t recall the man ever pulling out his veto pen, with or without a republican congress I should add, 2003-2007 congress&#039; spending was only slightly less disgusting then what we&#039;ve seen since. And it would appear that the current president agrees with Bush when it comes to things like Gitmo, Patriot Act, TSA, etc, etc, etc]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reference to Phoenix Woman above, I&#8217;m trying to recall this &#8220;hard right&#8221; Bush.  When it came to spending, I don&#8217;t recall the man ever pulling out his veto pen, with or without a republican congress I should add, 2003-2007 congress&#8217; spending was only slightly less disgusting then what we&#8217;ve seen since. And it would appear that the current president agrees with Bush when it comes to things like Gitmo, Patriot Act, TSA, etc, etc, etc</p>
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