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		By: br549		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/21/nope-no-haters-on-the-left/#comment-219401</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oops. Their own]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Their own</p>
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		By: br549		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/21/nope-no-haters-on-the-left/#comment-219400</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And Sherman? He should have been hung, and drawn and quartered. Can you imagine the cries from the left were that type of warfare to be carried out in this day and age, as was done during his &quot;march to the sea&quot;? 
It&#039;s a hoot though. The democrats that kept slavery in place back then perpetrate it still. I am forever amazed at how they slowly pulled it off, and how it is not seen by those kept in check from ever being who they could on there own (the only way it really happens).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Sherman? He should have been hung, and drawn and quartered. Can you imagine the cries from the left were that type of warfare to be carried out in this day and age, as was done during his &#8220;march to the sea&#8221;?<br />
It&#8217;s a hoot though. The democrats that kept slavery in place back then perpetrate it still. I am forever amazed at how they slowly pulled it off, and how it is not seen by those kept in check from ever being who they could on there own (the only way it really happens).</p>
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		By: br549		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Squeaky&#039;s gun mis-fired. But I attribute that scenario to Manson, not the left. 

The left still equates the term Nazi with far right. I see it everywhere I read, and with those I speak with. And as we all know, it is not true. They know it too, except for the useful idiots.

To this day, people believe our own Civil War was about freeing slaves. To solve all that, American history before - 1870, I believe? - is just not going to be taught anymore. I suppose rubbing out where we came from will make it much easier to re-direct where we are going.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Squeaky&#8217;s gun mis-fired. But I attribute that scenario to Manson, not the left. </p>
<p>The left still equates the term Nazi with far right. I see it everywhere I read, and with those I speak with. And as we all know, it is not true. They know it too, except for the useful idiots.</p>
<p>To this day, people believe our own Civil War was about freeing slaves. To solve all that, American history before &#8211; 1870, I believe? &#8211; is just not going to be taught anymore. I suppose rubbing out where we came from will make it much easier to re-direct where we are going.</p>
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		By: njcommuter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Strictly speaking, the Left didn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;joke&lt;/i&gt; about killing President G. W. Bush.  They &lt;i&gt;fantasized&lt;/i&gt; about it and &lt;i&gt;obsessed&lt;/i&gt; over it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strictly speaking, the Left didn&#8217;t <i>joke</i> about killing President G. W. Bush.  They <i>fantasized</i> about it and <i>obsessed</i> over it.</p>
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		By: Teri Pittman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;So here’s where I have a problem with “both sides”: The left will never be satisfied until they have all of us under their complete control. History shows that they are quite capable of “liquidating” anyone who stands in their way.&lt;/i&gt;

I t was thinking in terms of some of Ann Coulter&#039;s statements on the right, when I made that comment. I do feel like people should have the ability to speak their minds, without being tagged as politically incorrect or racist. I understand that political rhetoric gets heated because that&#039;s what gets the votes. We don&#039;t seem to be able to leave it behind when the election is over.

My boyfriend and best friend are Obama supporters. I like to think that I&#039;ve at least been able to show them that there is some thought on the other side of the political spectrum. I may be making some progress with the boyfriend. He&#039;s taped Sarah Palin&#039;s Alaska for me. Guess this means I&#039;ll have to listen to the next Obama speech.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So here’s where I have a problem with “both sides”: The left will never be satisfied until they have all of us under their complete control. History shows that they are quite capable of “liquidating” anyone who stands in their way.</i></p>
<p>I t was thinking in terms of some of Ann Coulter&#8217;s statements on the right, when I made that comment. I do feel like people should have the ability to speak their minds, without being tagged as politically incorrect or racist. I understand that political rhetoric gets heated because that&#8217;s what gets the votes. We don&#8217;t seem to be able to leave it behind when the election is over.</p>
<p>My boyfriend and best friend are Obama supporters. I like to think that I&#8217;ve at least been able to show them that there is some thought on the other side of the political spectrum. I may be making some progress with the boyfriend. He&#8217;s taped Sarah Palin&#8217;s Alaska for me. Guess this means I&#8217;ll have to listen to the next Obama speech.</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 09:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ricl, while your description of political spectrum is more adequate that common view to see Nazi as far right and Communists as far left, but it is still  unsatisfactory. We just can not describe now the whole multitude of political and philosophical attitudes according placement of representatives in French Convent. American Revolution created its own perspective and ethos, quite different from everything existing in continental Europe and even England of the end of 18 century. In modern terms, Founders were neither liberals nor conservatives, and even not &quot;moderates&quot; on this scale, but libertarians, to whom liberty was value in itself, not something subordinate to identity, community ties and tradition (a conservative position), but also not subordinate to universal ethical collectivism imposed by government (liberal position). Individualism was central to this worldview, but not of anarchistic or nihilistic variety, but moderated and restricted by laws and moral, that were considered universal (idea of &quot;natural right&quot;, independent of tribal tradition). American exceptionalism rejects possibility of defining it in terms of right-left opposition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ricl, while your description of political spectrum is more adequate that common view to see Nazi as far right and Communists as far left, but it is still  unsatisfactory. We just can not describe now the whole multitude of political and philosophical attitudes according placement of representatives in French Convent. American Revolution created its own perspective and ethos, quite different from everything existing in continental Europe and even England of the end of 18 century. In modern terms, Founders were neither liberals nor conservatives, and even not &#8220;moderates&#8221; on this scale, but libertarians, to whom liberty was value in itself, not something subordinate to identity, community ties and tradition (a conservative position), but also not subordinate to universal ethical collectivism imposed by government (liberal position). Individualism was central to this worldview, but not of anarchistic or nihilistic variety, but moderated and restricted by laws and moral, that were considered universal (idea of &#8220;natural right&#8221;, independent of tribal tradition). American exceptionalism rejects possibility of defining it in terms of right-left opposition.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 04:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Teri Pittman Says: 
January 22nd, 2011 at 11:47 am
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; What all this reminds me of is the Civil War, when people had fixed positions and the rhetoric was even more heated. We are headed for something like that, if we can’t find a way to tone it down on both sides.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I don&#039;t mean to single you out for criticism, Teri, but I want to take issue with your &quot;both sides&quot; statement.

First, a little background:  We have all been taught that the political spectrum has Communists on the far left, Nazis on the far right, and &quot;democracy&quot; in the middle.  I completely reject that, as it is not accurate.

I see the spectrum as having the various flavors of totalitarianism on the far left.  These include Communism, Nazism, and Maoism.  More moderate forms of government would be Socialism and Fascism, which would be more towards the middle.  The far right would be anarchists, who advocate no government at all.  I would place America&#039;s Founders, who wanted strictly limited and circumscribed government, towards the right side of the spectrum, but not all the way to the far right.

So here&#039;s where I have a problem with &quot;both sides&quot;:  The left will never be satisfied until they have all of us under their complete control.  History shows that they are quite capable of &quot;liquidating&quot; anyone who stands in their way.

The right just wants the left to get out of our faces and leave us alone.  We don&#039;t want to exterminate leftists; we just think they need to be removed from positions of power over us.  They can work as janitors and maids, but not as university professors and directors of government regulatory agencies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teri Pittman Says:<br />
January 22nd, 2011 at 11:47 am</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p> What all this reminds me of is the Civil War, when people had fixed positions and the rhetoric was even more heated. We are headed for something like that, if we can’t find a way to tone it down on both sides.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to single you out for criticism, Teri, but I want to take issue with your &#8220;both sides&#8221; statement.</p>
<p>First, a little background:  We have all been taught that the political spectrum has Communists on the far left, Nazis on the far right, and &#8220;democracy&#8221; in the middle.  I completely reject that, as it is not accurate.</p>
<p>I see the spectrum as having the various flavors of totalitarianism on the far left.  These include Communism, Nazism, and Maoism.  More moderate forms of government would be Socialism and Fascism, which would be more towards the middle.  The far right would be anarchists, who advocate no government at all.  I would place America&#8217;s Founders, who wanted strictly limited and circumscribed government, towards the right side of the spectrum, but not all the way to the far right.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s where I have a problem with &#8220;both sides&#8221;:  The left will never be satisfied until they have all of us under their complete control.  History shows that they are quite capable of &#8220;liquidating&#8221; anyone who stands in their way.</p>
<p>The right just wants the left to get out of our faces and leave us alone.  We don&#8217;t want to exterminate leftists; we just think they need to be removed from positions of power over us.  They can work as janitors and maids, but not as university professors and directors of government regulatory agencies.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 19:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OLBERMAN OUT AT PMSNBC...!

Ain&#039;t had this much FUN since them Hogs ate baby sister !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OLBERMAN OUT AT PMSNBC&#8230;!</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t had this much FUN since them Hogs ate baby sister !</p>
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		By: Mr. Frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 17:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As was the case with the Civil War, sometimes there is no compromise position. Do states have a right to secede or not? I happen to think they did, but might makes right. In the case of today, does the government have the obligation to take care of the individual and to control his/her life to meet that end? Or, conversely, do individuals (with families and communities) have an obligation to take care of themselves? There is no real logical mid point on that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As was the case with the Civil War, sometimes there is no compromise position. Do states have a right to secede or not? I happen to think they did, but might makes right. In the case of today, does the government have the obligation to take care of the individual and to control his/her life to meet that end? Or, conversely, do individuals (with families and communities) have an obligation to take care of themselves? There is no real logical mid point on that.</p>
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		By: Teri Pittman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teri Pittman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 16:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FYI, Mark is the owner of Kalimba Magic. It&#039;s a nice little business and I really wish him well. It seems like he just has blinders on. I honestly think that a lot on the Left just don&#039;t understand what in their name. 

What all this reminds me of is the Civil War, when people had fixed positions and the rhetoric was even more heated. We are headed for something like that, if we can&#039;t find a way to tone it down on both sides.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, Mark is the owner of Kalimba Magic. It&#8217;s a nice little business and I really wish him well. It seems like he just has blinders on. I honestly think that a lot on the Left just don&#8217;t understand what in their name. </p>
<p>What all this reminds me of is the Civil War, when people had fixed positions and the rhetoric was even more heated. We are headed for something like that, if we can&#8217;t find a way to tone it down on both sides.</p>
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