Comments on: The fall of the house of Pahlavi https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/ A blog about political change, among other things Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:41:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: rickl https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214406 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:41:13 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214406 I was sad when I read of the suicide of Alireza Pahlavi. Suicides are always sad and tragic.

My feelings are mixed. As an American, I don’t believe in the idea of hereditary nobility. But as a human being, I can understand that a ruling family that has been deposed and exiled must feel like fish out of water.

I feel like they were people I could have known. When I was in college in the late 1970s, I knew a few Iranian students who had come here when the Shah was in power. I don’t know whatever became of them.

And yes, Persian women are among the most beautiful on Earth. I’ve seen them. (sigh)

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214224 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 02:42:51 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214224 Don Janousek: you’re welcome.

]]> By: Don Janousek https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214219 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 02:20:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214219 neo-neocon: I stand corrected. Thank you for reminding me of the interconnectedness of humanity. One tends to forget such things at times.

]]> By: Curtis https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214202 Sat, 08 Jan 2011 01:06:59 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214202 Claudia Lynx.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214178 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 22:55:23 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214178 Read a historical novel years ago about pre-Islam Persia. The writer referred to several young folks who were of inhuman beauty due to the aristos’ marrying within their class for a thousand years. Presumably, the less attractive did not marry, or married down and their offspring were read out of society.
For “married”, read “procreated”. Mox nix in this situation.

]]> By: Curtis https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214176 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 22:45:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214176 Rose,

I did not mean to suggest the women at the link were Persian, but I appreciate your diligence. I appreciate the truth that all women of all nations are beautiful and mysterious, and the older I get, the more I am angered by the left’s attempt to de-genderize humanity. Something Artfldgr wrote the other day about that–that with the disappearance of the roles and separateness of the sexes we are heading to a genetic result both horrific and final. It makes me believe in the reality of an absolute evil wishing the end of man. I suppose the subject of the lack of play amongst children is another symptom of the same devolution.

But there is no reason to despair as the sacred texts from the great religions assure us that the battle between good and evil is superintended by a loving Creator whose purposes will not be thwarted.

]]> By: gs https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214161 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:25:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214161 Alireza might have been better off had he not been highborn. RIP.

My refugee parents were born into successful families though not into high status, but they were positioned for upward mobility. In hindsight I see how bitter it was for them to deal with the shattering of their prospects.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214146 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:30:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214146 Don Janousek: most people who commit suicide are only of interest to their own families. And yet suicides are ordinarily tragic nonetheless.

You and I know nothing about this man and his private demons. I have no idea if they were even related to the historical events that happened to his family. But I would also remind you of this thought.

]]> By: Don Janousek https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214135 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:13:20 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214135 A “nothing” commits suicide over “nothing.” The world registers no loss. Yawn! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

]]> By: Gringo https://thenewneo.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214121 Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:36:11 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2011/01/06/the-fall-of-the-house-of-pahlavi/#comment-214121 It was a two-ruler dynasty, founded by an officer in the barracks. While what succeeded the Pahlavi dynasty was many times worse, I find it difficult to shed tears for the Pahlavi family.

Perhaps the problem with the Shah was that he took American advice, such as the land reform that stirred up the mullahs, as Muslim monasteries et al were big landowners. Etc. In any event, had he not been toppled in early 1979, his death the next year would probably have given the same result, so my comment is academic.

Regarding the eyes of the Shah’s wives, I will not express an opinion, but in the photos of I have seen of the Shah, I see uncertainly in his eyes.

Which reminds me of the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty in India. In his book Who’s in Charge Here?, Gerald Gardner had a photo of Nehru addressing a big crowd. Gardner’s take: “Thank you. And now for my next number.”

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