Comments on: The great tax compromise: falling out of love with Obama (cont.) https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/ A blog about political change, among other things Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:14:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Baklava https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207403 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:14:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207403 Peter, OTOH, has no future in political writing.

]]> By: njcommuter https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207384 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 16:11:45 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207384 Curtis, if you are shooting game in the Alaskan snow, being able to shoot standing has certain advantages over shooting kneeling, seated, or prone. You’ll get enough cold snow on you over the course of a day.

]]> By: Artfldgr https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207381 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:50:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207381 We used to know concepts like false sincerity…

]]> By: Artfldgr https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207380 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:48:47 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207380 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/08/while-whacking-left-obama_n_794061.html

check out comments as posted by moonbattery

Berlusca
“Hi. I’m Barack Obama. I’m not the real President but I play one on tv…”

Insightful
Our best hope turned out to be totally ignorant regarding the history of certain facts and it doesn’t seem possible he actually had a top notch education. There appears to be a grave concern at this point that he actually might have a serious brain disorder.

MichaelC
Exactly right, and exceedingly strange when you consider the fact that President Obama considers himself a scholar. The conclusion is that he has to believe what he’s saying is true, which suggests more about his mindset than his ignorance of history.

TexasTreader
We all thought Obama was supposed to be so much smarter than Sarah Palin but there’s just no evidence to support that.

mary896
I’m a progressive democrat who is disgusted and dejected. The president can begin the lashings now because I’m not shutting up.

Peter Combs
as time goes on he gets more like Biden… gaff after gaff

Kitten Kramer
Mr. President you are losing it. Time to regroup and be quiet for a long time.

NOBSJUSTFACTS
He either needs Seroquel or a freaking vacation in A SPA FOR A MONTH. He seems to becoming unhinged – heck who wouldn’t but still, you signed up for the job, show some back bone man good god.

JoeMomma
He’s a sellout. And to this day he doesn’t get it. I suppose when he leaves office in 2 years he still won’t get it. Believe in something Barack. Anything. And then fight for it. Chicago politics is overrated.

BocaMom
This is why we Democrats can’t keep the White House, let alone Congress in 2012.

Jerry Lammers
This President is so lost, its hardly worth the effort to criticize his policies and pronouncements.

picaman
Watching this administration celebrate its Pyhrric victories just saddens me. We could do so much better than this. This is not the guy I voted for.

PedroGonzalez
Lets admit it to ourselves. If Bush set the house on fire Obama has poured gasoline on it.

lillibette
We lost our home and all our retirement savings in this recession. My husband found a job, out of our home state, making 1/2 of the income he made before. NO THANK YOU, we’ve already given our votes to you Barack, we have no more to give.

PedroGonzalez
…a genius in all 57 states.

but a few weeks before the big pusch soros in an interview gave them permission to attack Obama…
[media matters refutes things as they assume their readers did not notice that mr beck was playing video interviews, not editorial interpretation]

George Soros says Obama must go
english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/22-11-2010/115867-george_soros-0/

Last Tuesday, November 16 , Soros told financiers of the Democratic party that Obama must go. The liberal “Huffington Post” quoted Soros as saying:

“…if this president can’t do what we need, it is time to start looking somewhere else.”

after that, you can watch the machine move collectively to do that and turn on obama…

if you never caught, or remembered this point, then you would think that it was some natural way, and would sit there imagining ways it naturally happens and why it would be reasonable, and you would not realize what a collective response is (like Dowd being celebrated for how she wraps the party line so you read it, not how she actually thinks for herself. you may think she is celebrated as a thinker, but she is really celebrated for her curtain hanging making pretty left collective thought)

this is how cultural mass points are created vs actually happen (you can see in pelosi the surprise that any natural things happen and the assumption that ALL such actions are contrived through such bias injection by coordination)

]]> By: JohnC https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207374 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:16:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207374 Peter: Regarding Palin, I can see you’re still up to making baseless assertions, unless, of course you have a crystal ball and can see the future.

]]> By: Peter https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207331 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 07:50:02 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207331 How did this thread turn to Palin? The problem with Obama is that he never wanted to be the President. He wanted to be seen as the President. He wanted the big jet. He wanted the cameras and the adulation. Imagine his surprise when he go to that office that has no corners and found that he had to do actual work.

Obama has never had to do work before. He doesn’t know how and there is no hard bitten foreman to teach him how to work.

Palin, OTOH, has no future in electoral politics. The Donks hate her more than they hated George W. Bush. The Republican establishment hate her almost as much. she went after and got some of the crooked Republicans in the old boy network in Alaska.They can’t take the chance she’d do the same thing in Washington, DC.

]]> By: Curtis https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207310 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 04:39:40 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207310 gs, back in colonial days, when Washington fought a guerrilla action, would you have excoriated him as you do Palin?

If you were placed in a position where someone could throw darts at you continuously, and you knew it was death for you to remain, would you remain? Obviously it hasn’t meant death for Alaska. It remains. It’s still good. It’s still going strong.

I don’t get it. You seem like someone who would more agree with the statement, “Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel,” than “My country, my body.” So it appears to me your anger at Palin’s abdication of responsibility (and that is characterizing most distastefully to me) has a deeper and unrevealed source other than “she abdicated her responsibility.” I admit, I suspect PDS. Initiated and encouraged by the media.

Raising the Washington meme again: Was he wrong to refuse a third term? History has affirmed that among his great character traits was humility–that is to realize that nations do not depend on cults of personality.

In fact, the truth may be, that she did a service, not a disservice, by her renunciation.

I leave you the field.

]]> By: gs https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207307 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 04:09:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207307 With her resignation as governor I stopped being a Palin supporter, but I give her credit for supporting of the Ryan Roadmap, i.e. for not flinching from the issue.

Who else will speak out? Mitt? Huck? Anybody?

]]> By: Curtis https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207304 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:54:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207304 Definitely, a straight up vote which defeats this bill is best. Then, the new Congress can pass extending the current tax code without extending the unemployment benefits to those “who through no fault of their own” are unemployed. (I could extend that “through no fault of my own” defense to just about anything, but a modicum of respect for people’s time prevents me.)

However, what we have seen is that usually, and unlike the last two years, each side can’t get everything it wanst. Numerous examples may abound as to when that is not advantageous, but in general, it has meant a republic which has endured.

]]> By: J.J. formerly Jimmy J. https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207300 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:47:04 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/10/the-great-tax-compromise-falling-out-of-love-with-obama-cont/#comment-207300 Curtis said, “The tax compromise should be viewed as a triumph of democratic politics and an expression of popular sovereignty.”

Yep. Until you dig into the details. I just watched Greta interview Representative Jeff Flake (R -Arizona). It turns out that the Dems have not only got their year of unemployment benefits in there, but another $150 billion of special interest tax breaks and pork. So, it is actually another $200 billion added to the deficit before the new Congress gets seated. Conservative Repubs like Flake are going to vote against this thing and then put reinstating the Bush tax rates (And nothing else!) on the agenda for their first action in January. If that’s what happens, it will be a bookkeeping headache, but it won’t increase the debt by $200 billion as the present compromise does.

Congress is taking a four day weekend. I’m guessing the far left and far right are going to marshall their votes against this thing and it may not pass. If that happens, it’ll play havoc with the markets for a few days, but I would rather see a straight up vote on reinstating the Bush tax rates without all the lard, rather than this hydra headed compromise.

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